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Quote by Whipsnspurs
actually peanut i for one don't remember saying that i thought that they shouldn't be treated or have a school education. and as i pointed out before i was not the one who brought smoking in to the debate as an example.
you were the one accusing me of meaning that i agreed with smokers not being treated and then trying to cover it up. i've still not actually seen an apology for that asumption which was wrong!
whips

Your words:
Quote by Whipsnspurs
i think that if you choose not to have your child vaccinated then the cost of treatment should be paid for by the parent.

So what if the parent doesn't have the funds? And I take it that if you are saying that the parent should pay that means the treatment shouldn't be available on the NHS?
Again, your words:
Quote by Whipsnspurs
if you make a life style choices that puts you outside the normal funding for treatment then why shouldn't you pay for the damage you inflict on yourself

Or are you saying that choosing to smoke isn't a lifestyle choice?
I'd be grateful if you could re-explain the above as your later explanations seem to differ greatly from the above, or are you using a version of English I don't understand?
As for the apology, well based on the above I really don't think one is due.
Time out, please? passionkiss
Sam xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
but if I were to have my roll-up vaccinated... would that be ok?
or am I missing something here?
lp
Quote by Whipsnspurs
actually peanut i for one don't remember saying that i thought that they shouldn't be treated or have a school education. and as i pointed out before i was not the one who brought smoking in to the debate as an example.
you were the one accusing me of meaning that i agreed with smokers not being treated and then trying to cover it up. i've still not actually seen an apology for that asumption which was wrong!
whips

Your words:
Quote by Whipsnspurs
i think that if you choose not to have your child vaccinated then the cost of treatment should be paid for by the parent.

So what if the parent doesn't have the funds? And I take it that if you are saying that the parent should pay that means the treatment shouldn't be available on the NHS?
but where did i say that they shouldn't be treated or have education? it doesn't say that does it? no i don't think the treatment should be available on the nhs it's part of the choice you would be making when you refuse to have you kids vaccinated if that were the rules. if you can't afford to take that risk have the child vaccinated or take out private insurance to cover it.

So answer the question, what happens if there are no funds to pay for it? Looks like it's either NHS or no treatment. So which is it?
Again, your words:

if you make a life style choices that puts you outside the normal funding for treatment then why shouldn't you pay for the damage you inflict on yourself

Or are you saying that choosing to smoke isn't a lifestyle choice?
again i didn't say anything about smoking did i?

I didn't say you did. My original comment what that what you were saying means the same thing.
The above asks the question on whether you consider smoking to be a lifestyle choice. You said "yes", so that means it is encompassed by your quoted statement. This is hardly rocket science.


and while smoking may be a lifestyle choice

Ah, so it is a lifestyle choice then? Which means that is encompassed by what you said above re lifestyle choices.
it doesn't mean that the diseases you get are caused directly by doing it.

Hmmm, so a smoker of 30 years goes into hospital for emphysema or lung cancer and says "well Whips says it doesn't mean that it was caused by smoking". Give me a break please.
you may be at higher risk but i wasn't talking about it was i? again you are making assumptions about what I think when i haven't written that.

No I wasn't making assumptions about what you thought, I have many talents but telepathy isn't one of them. My comments are directly related to what you wrote.

so if you don't feel you owe me an appology for being so arrogant as to acuse me of meaning something i never said then fine. and as for writing in english you can understand...well i and others have tried. it's not my fault you can't read something for exactly what it says and have to put your own interpratation on it. maybe if you only read what was there you wouldn't make the mistake. as i said, when i mean something i will write exactly that. in the mean time i don't need you to tell me what i think or mean. my later explanations fit exactly what i have written above. only your additions to what you thought i meant have made it confusing for you.

I don't think I've seen so much back-pedalling since the Olympic reverse cycling event.
I'd be grateful if you could re-explain the above as your later explanations seem to differ greatly from the above, or are you using a version of English I don't understand?
As for the apology, well based on the above I really don't think one is due.

whips
Whips, Peanut............
Get a room!
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Quote by winchwench
Whips, Peanut............
Get a room!

Would that be smoking or non-smoking? :twisted:
Quote by __random_orbit__
but if I were to have my roll-up vaccinated... would that be ok?
or am I missing something here?
lp

If you get your roll up vaccinated, I will teach my aspirin to smoke!! kiss
Sam xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Quote by Peanut
Whips, Peanut............
Get a room!

Would that be smoking or non-smoking? :twisted:
Depends on if the sheets were nylon :rascal:
Quote by winchwench
Whips, Peanut............
Get a room!

Would that be smoking or non-smoking? :twisted:
Depends on if the sheets were nylon :rascal:
Oh God no, either freshly ironed cotton, or body-warm satin!
Whips, Peanut............
Get a room!
you can have mine....i've finished getting my beauty sleep ......
Quote by Whipsnspurs
peanut i don't see where i have done any back peddling at all. i have tried to answer your digs as best i can but you are just intent in still pulling it all apart.
quite frankly i really can't be arsed to bother any more.
as i said, if i had been including smokers or anyone else in what i meant i would have said so. if you don't want to accept that i don't care any more.
whips

And hopefully you will have learned that when making generalisations you will end up including groups you maybe hadn't intended.
confused :? I'm off for a ciggie!
Quote by Whipsnspurs
now get off my back!!

So roll over then. :twisted: