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Has anyone else experienced being "mugged" by the MBM?
You've seen 'em: the little red electric buggies for mobility impaired folk to get about whilst shopping. Whilst understanding and appreciating what a marvellous aid to mobility these little chariots are for people who cannot walk far, I'm becoming increasingly aware that they're beginning to develop an "attitude" which goes something like this:
Get out of my fucking way! I'm coming through!
Twice recently, and within the space of 20 mins, I've been quietly trogging down a major trunk road in the outer leafy suburbs of a city, minding my own business, fully freighted and almost up to the maximum 44 ton limit for a rig in this country, when the MBM have struck out of the blue.
Their modus operandi is to suddenly scoot across the road in front of you with absolutely no prior warning of their intention and clearly without a care in the world or the slightest regard for the practicalities of trying to stop a rig of this size on a sixpence. :doh:
Do these folk have a death-wish? If so (and in the unlikely event of them being SH peeps) can they please take note!!
I DO NOT WISH TO BECOME RESPONSIBLE FOR TURNING YOU INTO A JAM SANDWICH
Not long ago the driver of a large artic was killed on a motorway because some idiotic driver in a car cut across in front of him at the last second from the outside lane to the exit slip. The truck driver could have not tried to take evasive action in which case he would still be alive today, and he probably wouldn't even have felt the impact as he reduced the car to a pile of scrap. As it turned out he did the natural thing and tried to avoid an accident. Unfortunately he paid with his life whilst the car and driver escaped without a scratch.
Has anyone else got any stories to tell of being mugged by this increasingly militant lot?
Most road users are arseholes, regardless of what they're driving. That includes truckers, buggyists, pedestrians, cyclists, car drivers... you name it, and singling out a particular group for criticism is missing the point I feel: To be safe on the road, I think what you really need to do is drive defensively and expect everyone else to screw up.
When I passed my driving test (rather a long time ago now), my Father sent me a post card. On the front was an Orang Utan on the back was the message "Treat all other drivers as if they were one of these. Well done." I kept that post card in my cars for years.
I used to work in Lytham St Annes.
That place is 90% wrinklies (that is said in an affectionate way - as many of the are lovely people)
BUT!!!!!!!!!!!
Those electric scooters!!!!
Sheesh!
They are a nightmare - they travel down the middle of the road.
No signals.
No looking beofre they cross junctions!
And once they have their raincovers up - they think they are invincible.
In the shopping area you can hardly find a bit of pavement to walk on - that town is full of the pesky things!
Alex x x
Well said EagerSlut.... There are a few round here that think because they have what almost count for 'lights' that they can drive on the road even at night... scurrying allong at 5 miles an hour on a road set for 60, completely ignoring the perfectly good pavement they could have been using.
I have also seen people trying to drive those things INSIDE shops... they usualy knock stuff over and make a right mess... not to mention causing chaos while at the same time being grumpy about it...
When I get that old I am gonna get me a motorbike, and ride it round in shops like an invalid carrage.
Quote by Eagerslut9
(and in the unlikely event of them being SH peeps)

Please don't make such assumptions.
Quote by skegnessswingers
because they are "invalids"

What makes 'them' in-valid? What do we need to do to be a valid person?
Ok,fun is fun,but I know a couple of people for whom these things have been a lifeline,giving them the chance to enjoy the mobilty that their health/physical problems has/have denied them.
I gotta say,for those of us lucky enough to be able to,walking rules!
Actually..WALKING ROCKS! - but,for those who can't,at least here's some kind of way at least to enjoy some independence.
I am not saying anyone is wrong for the comments about ignoramuses on shopmobility scooters, but please, people... invalid is just not acceptable to me, nor should it be to you.. think about the connotations.
And as for people with mobility problems not likely to be on SH? Careful, we'll come get ya with our sticks and wheelchairs and Zimmers.
You don't have to be old to need assistance walking or getting from A to B. Yes, you may need assistance to get TO the shop, but firstly, you can't always get a regular wheelchair into shops, let alone a buggy, and secondly, you can get out and walk in the shop because you did not walk there. It may be a distance thing.
By the way, I don't have a buggy, and I do hate the people with attitude. But the same can be said for baby buggies, cyclists... whoever. There are arseholes in every walk of life.
My pet hate is the increasing number of cyclists who have become red/green colour blind at major road intersections and pedestrian crossings!
Why does one rule apply to them and another to all the insured road users???!?!?!
mad mad mad
Can we make a distinction between the people who happen to use these aids and the idiots who use them?
When I was at my lowest with my cancer treatment I had no option but to use one if I wanted to get out and about but I hope I did so safely with consideration for others. You then get the idiots as you do in all walks of life that use them and think because they are in one the rules of the road do not apply to them!
It’s not the buggies themselves but the people who use them and not everybody who uses one is an inconsiderate person
I worked with a guy for a while who used one of those mad things only his was operated by his foot as he had not control over his hands!! What a fucking nightmare he was, he used to not look where he was going and nearly knock small children down and all sorts. Once we went into a computer shop and he ran into a shelf full of hard drive (hard drive shells thankfully!) such a bloody maniac driver, its a wonder he didnt have a bloody truncheon stuck down the side of the thing for road/shopping centre rage purposes confused
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It’s not the buggies themselves but the people who use them and not everybody who uses one is an inconsiderate person

You're absolutely right Butters. I don't think any of the above posts were meant in a derogatory way. Just an observation of some people with bad attitudes that are using them.
I've noticed quite a lot recently that quotes are being taken out of context and used to berate the original poster ......... I know you have to be careful of what you type, but it's getting to almost ridiculous when a little piece of a sentence is used and not in the way it was intended.
I deleted my original post in here, because I was worried about how it would be taken, even tho in my eyes, it didn't seem offensive at all.
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I am not saying anyone is wrong for the comments about ignoramuses on shopmobility scooters, but please, people... invalid is just not acceptable to me, nor should it be to you.. think about the connotations.

I see no "connotations", only political correctness. It's a word, like any other word, intended to relate a concept - that's what words are for. It's not a character judgement. Complaining about it is no less arbitrary than "coloured" people deciding they'd rather be called "black". If you hadn't told us to think about the connotations, there wouldn't have been any. You introduced them.
I think some people are too willing to see innoccuous comments as personal attacks. There's no need for it IMO.
Just to add another fly in the ointment... Its not confined to people using a mobility aid, riding a bike, or even driving. As most of you know I drive blue light vehicles on the side, and even then with the lights and in this case 2 tones blaring I still get pedestrians walking out infront of me...
As a few have said, a number of people on the planet seem to have no concept of safty. Whatever their mode of transport they can be dangerous. I feel for the truck driver who lost his life avoiding a car, I think most of us would swerve to avoid the idiot.
At the end of the day for those against this post, I am reading it right I think it is not about a section of the community, or the disabled however we were describing them, it is about inconsiderate people who are a danger to themselves and others.
Being a biker I have always wanted to "Chop" one of those buggy things........ put a S&S 1500cc V-Twin in one, with 2 into 6 stainless uplift straight through exhausts easy rider front end…….. top it of with a fuck off paint job……… now that would be cool! :twisted: :shock: lol
Quote by Keith K
Ok,fun is fun,but I know a couple of people for whom these things have been a lifeline,giving them the chance to enjoy the mobilty that their health/physical problems has/have denied them.
I gotta say,for those of us lucky enough to be able to,walking rules!
Actually..WALKING ROCKS! - but,for those who can't,at least here's some kind of way at least to enjoy some independence.

Ahhhhh Keith ))hugs)))
I actually have nothing against the people or the vehicles in general
It is the DANGEROUS way in which some of them are driven. And, to be honest, the inconsideration shown by someof these drivers. I am speaking from experience here from spending many years in Lytham St Annes.
More than once I have had to stand on my brakes as one of these drivers just comes straight off the pavement and cross the road without looking.
I have also seen children pushed out of the way on the pavement - sometimes onto the road as the drivers refuse to slow down on the pavements.
I fully understand that we should appreciate their plight, but many of the drivers should also show care and consideration to others and learn the highway code.
If I may, I'd like to just make it clear that my original post was not intended to be derogatory in a general sense to any section of the community, although I will admit that when I made my comment about the unlikely event of them being SH peeps I had in mind that of course the majority of these buggy users are elderly folk, so until you lot start drawing your pensions it's unlikely that there there will be that many swinging pensioners about (if anyone in the forum fits that category please speak up and correct me).
I guess I just needed to get this particular beef off my chest. Yes, there are idiots amongst all categories of road user.
I did my HGV training when I was in the Fire Service. Some of you will know that the Roadcraft system of driving taught by the emergency services, followed in the Fire Service by EFAD training (Emergency Fire Appliance Driver) is way beyond the Advanced Driver standard. EFAD trains you to drive fire appliances at high speed safely.
The skills I learned have saved me on a number of occasions from being involved in crashes caused by other drivers making human errors or driving recklessly.
Driving in excess of 100,000 miles a year I feel qualifies me to offer an opinion from a basis of some experience, and I would like to see out the rest of my driving days maintaining an accident-free record.
In the interest of trying to make a contribution to the safety of all of us on the roads can I point out a few things that may save your life one day:
Trucks have a blind spot either side. We call it the "No Go Zone". It's alongside us and generally just back from where the driver's cab stops, but it varies depending on how you've got your mirrors adjusted. Unfortunately you can never adjust the mirrors to cover the entire length of your vehicle. The adage "If you can see my mirrors I can see you" is a good one but don't forget the No Go Zone folks!!
If you run into the back of us we may not even feel it. If that happened to me and I didn't stop would that make me guilty of failing to stop after an accident?
Bear with us when we're holding you up by the speed we're doing. We're only allowed by law to do 40mph on a single carriageway road, 50 on a dual carriageway, and we're speed limited to 56 so that's it for motorways. I know it can be frustrating for you but it's better that you get to wherever you're going a bit later than that you never arrive because you decided to risk a dodgy overtaking manoeuvre which may have not only killed you but others as well.
We don't intentionally try to piss you off but we are persecuted by speed cameras, radar traps as well. How many of you know that some stretches of road now have weight sensors in the road which trigger the speed camera if it's an hgv which is doing more than it's lawful speed?
I'm always very appreciative of the motorist who sees my indicating to pull out and flashes me an holds back to give me precedence. It shows that they are considerate of the fact that if we have to brake and lose our momentum it takes quite a while to build it back up again and that results in a slowing down of all the other vehicles in the lane behind us.
None of us are perfect folks but let's all try and be a bit more thoughtful towards each others' needs ok? And yes, there are some lousy truck drivers too I know.
One final thought. You know the stickers you see on the rear of some vehicles which says "How am I driving?" together with a phone number? Can you think of any other examples of something similar which invites a totally unqualified audience to comment on someone else's professionalism? I find it quite insulting. What do you think?
I hope you've found this interesting and that I haven't banged on too much about it, but I have a feeling that next time you're alongside a big 'un something of what I've said will come back to you ("Shit! I remember Eagerslut9 posting about this. Whoops!!") and, who knows, it may just save your life!!
One final thing. Please don't try and nip round the outside of us when we're negotiating a roundabout. It's your life and it's worth more than the risk. Anyway, I don't want to have to live with the fact that I killed you.
Sunday Sermon's over folks. Thanks. bolt