With the school holidays here and kids playing with PS2, Xbox etc etc it made me ponder the games that they play.
I bought a PC game for my daughter last year and the first thing she did was to go out on the net and look up the cheat codes.
I gather from her peers that this is considered the norm.
Does this not take away the challenge of the game?
Now, some cheats are harder to find for some games than others, but most of the time they exist. In most cases they are not on the software designers’ website, I don’t understand why not – after all they built the cheat codes in the first place.
So who cheats and for those that do – why? Does it contribute to a better gaming experience.
How do feel about out kids using cheats?
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Sex God
My son does exactly the same 
I don't get it - why pay good money for a game, then play it in about five minutes flat because you can, because you have the cheat codes? Stupid!
I don't get it - why pay good money for a game, then play it in about five minutes flat because you can, because you have the cheat codes? Stupid! Have you tried playing some of these games 
Or more like can you play some of these games ! I think it's back to the days when the vcr used to get the better of your parents when trying to set the timer on it, but these games are so complex and big.
I've sat there and played and yes your patience does start to wear thin but you find yourself accepting it and maybe returning later to give it another try. Whereas the kids, it's got to happen, happen now and with immediate effect. So if at first they can't get the hand of it or work some sort of puzzle or next step out, then just take the easy way out and go find a cheat.
I think it should be as a last resort, you know, dust the cobwebs off an old game, wap in a cheat and give it a new lease of life, but like I said - me and games don't see eye to eye
Or more like can you play some of these games ! I think it's back to the days when the vcr used to get the better of your parents when trying to set the timer on it, but these games are so complex and big.I've sat there and played and yes your patience does start to wear thin but you find yourself accepting it and maybe returning later to give it another try. Whereas the kids, it's got to happen, happen now and with immediate effect. So if at first they can't get the hand of it or work some sort of puzzle or next step out, then just take the easy way out and go find a cheat.
I think it should be as a last resort, you know, dust the cobwebs off an old game, wap in a cheat and give it a new lease of life, but like I said - me and games don't see eye to eye
Sexpert
It is a shame, but it's not new.
I'm of the generation that grew up with the glorious "Speccie". Cheats (at least in my circle) were considered just that "cheating" - and you got no satisfaction or glory from completing a game using them (they were of course referred to, rather saucily, as "pokes" then...).
My daughter and her brother are regular users of cheats...it does seem that it's become the norm, although I do encourage them to try and complete games without them when I see them, I think those occassions are the exception rather than the rule.
That said, I'm sure game producers have their fingers on the pulse and take that into account when designing the games....
I'm of the generation that grew up with the glorious "Speccie". Cheats (at least in my circle) were considered just that "cheating" - and you got no satisfaction or glory from completing a game using them (they were of course referred to, rather saucily, as "pokes" then...).
My daughter and her brother are regular users of cheats...it does seem that it's become the norm, although I do encourage them to try and complete games without them when I see them, I think those occassions are the exception rather than the rule.
That said, I'm sure game producers have their fingers on the pulse and take that into account when designing the games....
puter games? :shock:
i dont know anything about gaming at all , last puter game I played was Mario / Sonic the bloody hedgehog on game boy, the original
and now i have that damn tune in my head
My daughter's 7, and isnt allowed an XBox etc yet. . Kids spend far too long in front of the TV playing shoot 'em up stuff, i have enough trouble already getting her off Yahooligans & educational type sites so i can have the pc back!
i dont know anything about gaming at all , last puter game I played was Mario / Sonic the bloody hedgehog on game boy, the original
and now i have that damn tune in my head
My daughter's 7, and isnt allowed an XBox etc yet. . Kids spend far too long in front of the TV playing shoot 'em up stuff, i have enough trouble already getting her off Yahooligans & educational type sites so i can have the pc back!
Sex God
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Not a parent so no expert but... I think it is something to do with being in control. Kids have little control over their lives so in a game they're in charge. Cheats give them more power and more control. A bit like being an adult!
:shock: No, they want to get to the end of the game quicker!
Have you ever cheated at patience or solitaire???
Nope
My daughter has used "cheats" on the Sims game. According to her, the cheats are available on the manufacturers website.
The meaning of the word cheat itself infers "deprives/deception, by trickery, swindle or defraud", but at the end of the day, it is only a pc game.
In real life, we all sometimes cut corners, to get what we want quicker, but as life experiences teach us, cutting corners doesn't always work.
Alex xx
The meaning of the word cheat itself infers "deprives/deception, by trickery, swindle or defraud", but at the end of the day, it is only a pc game.
In real life, we all sometimes cut corners, to get what we want quicker, but as life experiences teach us, cutting corners doesn't always work.
Alex xx
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puter games? :shock:
i dont know anything about gaming at all , last puter game I played was Mario / Sonic the bloody hedgehog on game boy, the original
and now i have that damn tune in my head
!
And now you have so much to answer for, as I've just remembered how that annoying little tune goes
I bet that stays with me for a while 
Quote by SteveClarke
It is a shame, but it's not new.
I'm of the generation that grew up with the glorious "Speccie". Cheats (at least in my circle) were considered just that "cheating" - and you got no satisfaction or glory from completing a game using them (they were of course referred to, rather saucily, as "pokes" then...).
I agree with that one, certainly in my circles it was really frowned upon. But that was then, now, we seem to have the opposite.
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That said, I'm sure game producers have their fingers on the pulse and take that into account when designing the games....
Oh yes, it means with cheats, kids finish the games quicker and move onto the next release.
Quote by keeno
Not a parent so no expert but... I think it is something to do with being in control. Kids have little control over their lives so in a game they're in charge. Cheats give them more power and more control. A bit like being an adult!
Have you ever cheated at patience or solitaire???
WTF :shock:
how the hell did you come to this conclusion....if kids use cheats....i would put it down the fact they are impatient little sods and just want to get to the end of the game as quickly as possible....
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i dont know anything about gaming at all , last puter game I played was Mario / Sonic the bloody hedgehog on game boy, the original
and now i have that damn tune in my head
Oi young lady, you can go off people you know.
That tune is now firmly settled in and wont budge in my head.
maybe it needs some encouragment .....
off for a listen to The Birdy Song - that should do it.
Quote by Manolishi
With the school holidays here and kids playing with PS2, Xbox etc etc it made me ponder the games that they play.
I bought a PC game for my daughter last year and the first thing she did was to go out on the net and look up the cheat codes.
I gather from her peers that this is considered the norm.
Does this not take away the challenge of the game?
Now, some cheats are harder to find for some games than others, but most of the time they exist. In most cases they are not on the software designers’ website, I don’t understand why not – after all they built the cheat codes in the first place.
So who cheats and for those that do – why? Does it contribute to a better gaming experience.
How do feel about out kids using cheats?
It depends on what cheats they use and why they use them.
If it is to take the challenge out of the game so they finish it quickly and with no effort - NO
However - many cheats actually open up a game. They can bring up features that are otherwise not available to the player. Yes sometimes this gives the player an edge or advantage - but if they get more enjoyment from the game by doing this - what is the harm?
Quote by PoloLady
but if they get more enjoyment from the game by doing this - what is the harm?
I think PL for me, its all about the acceptance of the cheats and is it actually classed as "cheating".
Maybe a bit deep, but if we see using cheat codes as cheating are we endorsing their use, does it end just with PC games?
Take football for example - we see time and time again people diving - thats cheating. I know of a local football club for kids that actually had a lesson on the best way to take a dive.
Quote by PoloLady
It depends on what cheats they use and why they use them.
If it is to take the challenge out of the game so they finish it quickly and with no effort - NO
However - many cheats actually open up a game. They can bring up features that are otherwise not available to the player. Yes sometimes this gives the player an edge or advantage - but if they get more enjoyment from the game by doing this - what is the harm?
Sorry for quoteing you Polo but I totally agree with you, and you say it so much better than I would!
:thumbup:
Orgasminator
Personally, I'd say it depends very much on the cheats in question.
I've used plenty of cheat codes for plenty of different games, playing Quake or Doom in 'God Mode' can be a good laugh occasionally when all you want to do is blast things as much as possible. I've also used a walk-through to get past one particular puzzle on the original Tomb Raider, but only after getting stuck for nearly a week.
Generally, I'd say it's ok to use cheat codes if you're playing against a computer (or if they affect all players equally), but they become unacceptable if they're used to provide an unfair advantage in multi-player games.
I've used plenty of cheat codes for plenty of different games, playing Quake or Doom in 'God Mode' can be a good laugh occasionally when all you want to do is blast things as much as possible. I've also used a walk-through to get past one particular puzzle on the original Tomb Raider, but only after getting stuck for nearly a week.
Generally, I'd say it's ok to use cheat codes if you're playing against a computer (or if they affect all players equally), but they become unacceptable if they're used to provide an unfair advantage in multi-player games.
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but if they get more enjoyment from the game by doing this - what is the harm?
I think PL for me, its all about the acceptance of the cheats and is it actually classed as "cheating".
Maybe a bit deep, but if we see using cheat codes as cheating are we endorsing their use, does it end just with PC games?
Take football for example - we see time and time again people diving - thats cheating. I know of a local football club for kids that actually had a lesson on the best way to take a dive.
Is it that they are cheat codes for cheating or access codes which are known as cheat codes?
Quote by PoloLady
With the school holidays here and kids playing with PS2, Xbox etc etc it made me ponder the games that they play.
I bought a PC game for my daughter last year and the first thing she did was to go out on the net and look up the cheat codes.
I gather from her peers that this is considered the norm.
Does this not take away the challenge of the game?
Now, some cheats are harder to find for some games than others, but most of the time they exist. In most cases they are not on the software designers’ website, I don’t understand why not – after all they built the cheat codes in the first place.
So who cheats and for those that do – why? Does it contribute to a better gaming experience.
How do feel about out kids using cheats?
It depends on what cheats they use and why they use them.
If it is to take the challenge out of the game so they finish it quickly and with no effort - NO
However - many cheats actually open up a game. They can bring up features that are otherwise not available to the player. Yes sometimes this gives the player an edge or advantage - but if they get more enjoyment from the game by doing this - what is the harm?
But call me cynical...
if the cheat codes are to be published on the manufacturers web site surely this will be available to members only therefore opening up a new avenue for the manufacturers to sell more goods to a targeted audience?
Quote by redpantherman
With the school holidays here and kids playing with PS2, Xbox etc etc it made me ponder the games that they play.
I bought a PC game for my daughter last year and the first thing she did was to go out on the net and look up the cheat codes.
I gather from her peers that this is considered the norm.
Does this not take away the challenge of the game?
Now, some cheats are harder to find for some games than others, but most of the time they exist. In most cases they are not on the software designers’ website, I don’t understand why not – after all they built the cheat codes in the first place.
So who cheats and for those that do – why? Does it contribute to a better gaming experience.
How do feel about out kids using cheats?
It depends on what cheats they use and why they use them.
If it is to take the challenge out of the game so they finish it quickly and with no effort - NO
However - many cheats actually open up a game. They can bring up features that are otherwise not available to the player. Yes sometimes this gives the player an edge or advantage - but if they get more enjoyment from the game by doing this - what is the harm?
But call me cynical...
if the cheat codes are to be published on the manufacturers web site surely this will be available to members only therefore opening up a new avenue for the manufacturers to sell more goods to a targeted audience?
OK cynical (you said to call you that)
They are available all over the ferkin place - free!
Quite often the manufacturers website is the last place you find them.
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Is it that they are cheat codes for cheating or access codes which are known as cheat codes?
Good point PL, there is certainly a difference between access codes and cheat codes, but all are commonly referred by the general name of cheats.
What I mean by cheat codes is where you enter data to attain an advantage, be it more money, more ammo, better guns etc etc
god I feel old!!I've used walkthroughs on a couple of ocassions when playing Baldur's Gate or Icewind Dale. You get to a stage where no matter what you do, you can't get any further and it's very 
I have been known to get 2/3 of the way through a game, realised I completely fucked up somewhere and started the whole game again from the beginning.
My son plays Resident Evil and those type of shoot em ups and he only uses cheats when he's really stuck. Cheats and walkthroughs are a help if they are only used as a last resort and not just to get you to the end of the game faster. That just defeats the object of it IMO
I have been known to get 2/3 of the way through a game, realised I completely fucked up somewhere and started the whole game again from the beginning.
My son plays Resident Evil and those type of shoot em ups and he only uses cheats when he's really stuck. Cheats and walkthroughs are a help if they are only used as a last resort and not just to get you to the end of the game faster. That just defeats the object of it IMO
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After I have played a game or a particular level, then I like to use them ;)
Yep Andy - quite agree with that, but it seems it's rare these days for kids to do thatIt seems they just want to win whatever it takes and don't like the challenge of achieving something on their own, a shame really
