Why is it that so many ads on here are composed in some peculiar language that seems to be totally alien to the English I learned as a child?
I can understand the need to be economical with characters when using a mobile to send texts, space is at a premium. But in here? Where there seems to be limitless space to enter real words? Very odd!
Is it any wonder that ads that are reduced to the most basic linguistic bare bones fail to win a great deal of response?
An ad is a persons first point of contact, if it is written in some sort of neanderthal gibberish is it any wonder that most readers move right along?
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I daren't :gagged:
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Quote by Iceraider
I hate it with a passion, I cannot for the life of me understand why people are still using it on here.
It smacks of immaturity, and frankly makes you sound like a tard.
It won't be long before the kids are allowed to use it in exams.
What's a tard then?
retard?
Quote by Freckledbird
I hate it with a passion, I cannot for the life of me understand why people are still using it on here.
It smacks of immaturity, and frankly makes you sound like a tard.
It won't be long before the kids are allowed to use it in exams.
What's a tard then?
retard?
Sorry, geek speak kicked in, too much online gaming I guess.
It is indeed a term used to identify someone who seems to be "INTERNET CHALLENGED"
Sex God
Quote by browning
Most forums that I belong to ban text talk, if you use it they cancell your account, and rightly so.
It's just another sign of how standards have slipped.
Young people today can't even read and write correctley.
Or spell?
Did you see the thing about Eton students who were unable to spell but still achieved V high GCSE and Alevel results... seems like a shame. You may find over the next few years the international form of English will change and our form will become a mere dialect. So acceptable spelling will become more phonetic to make it easier to learn.
Sex God
Quote by browning
Well spotted pike!
Pike???
English is a transitory language constantly changing. The English you learned as a child was probably a grate deal different from the English your grate grandfather learned as a child, and will probably be a grate deal different when your grate grandchild comes to learn it in the future.
As far as I’m concerned I don’t see the point of being all puritanical about it, as long as I can understand the point being made, I don’t mind. Not every one has the benefit of a good education. No one’s perfect we all have shortcomings, a little tolerance goes a long way.
As far as I’m concerned I don’t see the point of being all puritanical about it, as long as I can understand the point being made, I don’t mind. Not every one has the benefit of a good education. No one’s perfect we all have shortcomings, a little tolerance goes a long way.
Quote by Sharif
English is a transitory language constantly changing. The English you learned as a child was probably a grate deal different from the English your grate grandfather learned as a child, and will probably be a grate deal different when your grate grandchild comes to learn it in the future.
As far as I’m concerned I don’t see the point of being all puritanical about it, as long as I can understand the point being made, I don’t mind. Not every one has the benefit of a good education. No one’s perfect we all have shortcomings, a little tolerance goes a long way.
Sure, of course you are correct.
Things were a GREAT deal different
I personally don't use text speak, I find it takes me longer to translate words into text speak (when texting) than it does to write out the full words.
However, whenever I receive anything written from my sister, I have to patiently decipher it, because it is nearly all in text speak. She is severly dyslexic (so much so that she was entitled to a scribe for all her exams) and used too find it almost impossible to communicate through writing. Once she got her first mobile when she was around 15, she discovered that she could read and write, using text speak, without the problems that she encountered by using full words. I have no idea why, but the words and letters are less jumbled for her when using the text abbreviations.
As she is only 21, her peers have grown up using text speak, so the forums and profile sites she uses don't seem to have any prejudice against it's use. This means that she is able to interact with people over the internet, where if it hadn't been for the emergence of text speak she probably never would. Because it has allowed her to get over her fear of written communication it has also given her the will and the confidence to try reading for enjoyment - something that she could never do a few years ago because of the shear frustration it caused her.
Les x
However, whenever I receive anything written from my sister, I have to patiently decipher it, because it is nearly all in text speak. She is severly dyslexic (so much so that she was entitled to a scribe for all her exams) and used too find it almost impossible to communicate through writing. Once she got her first mobile when she was around 15, she discovered that she could read and write, using text speak, without the problems that she encountered by using full words. I have no idea why, but the words and letters are less jumbled for her when using the text abbreviations.
As she is only 21, her peers have grown up using text speak, so the forums and profile sites she uses don't seem to have any prejudice against it's use. This means that she is able to interact with people over the internet, where if it hadn't been for the emergence of text speak she probably never would. Because it has allowed her to get over her fear of written communication it has also given her the will and the confidence to try reading for enjoyment - something that she could never do a few years ago because of the shear frustration it caused her.
Les x
my daughters text messages are totally unreadable, even if she only sends 5 words she still has to shorten it to a unreadable launguage :shock:
i don't even bother reading threads on here wtitten in such a way, and while we on the subject why is it all of a sudden messenger text is all pics and symbols, i fooking hate it when you talking on messenger and you have to work out what they saying thro verious pics and symbols
i don't even bother reading threads on here wtitten in such a way, and while we on the subject why is it all of a sudden messenger text is all pics and symbols, i fooking hate it when you talking on messenger and you have to work out what they saying thro verious pics and symbols
Quote by naughtynymphos1
my daughters text messages are totally unreadable, even if she only sends 5 words she still has to shorten it to a unreadable launguage :shock:
i don't even bother reading threads on here wtitten in such a way, and while we on the subject why is it all of a sudden messenger text is all pics and symbols, i fooking hate it when you talking on messenger and you have to work out what they saying thro verious pic
s and symbols
Yes i do too Naughty - does my bloody head in!!
Suze xx
Quote by naughtynymphos1
i fooking hate it when you talking on messenger and you have to work out what they saying thro verious pics and symbols
:laughabove:
So true! I was talking to somebody once and it seemed that every single letter was some sparkly graphic or other! Was so hard to read. And now with all the symbols etc it's back to the days of Hieroglyphics!
I've been sitting and thinking about this topic and decided to elaborate...
I find text speak particularly annoying however I do accept language is an ever evolving beast and it just happens that I find the text speak variation quite ugly!
For instance I relish reading :
Ful wel she sange the service devine,
Entuned in hire nose ful swetely;
And Frenche she spake ful fayre and fetisly,
After the scole of Stratford atte bowe,
For Frenche of Paris was to hire unknowe.
(Geoffrey Chaucer, Canterbury Tales. Prologue)
But feel unmoved by :
R uz ok 2 mt 2nite?
I think it's because I perceive Chaucer as a form of poetic language that can be read aloud and text speak as a flat sounding manipulation.
However text speak could be argued as simply being a form of 'shorthand' as used by the human race over the centuries, I quote from 'Omniglot - writing systems and language' :
"Ever since the invention of writing scribes have used various techniques to enable them to take notes quickly and efficiently.
The Ancient Egyptians devised two scripts, Hieratic and Demotic, as alternatives to their complex Hieroglyphic script, which was used mainly for monumental inscriptions. Both Hieratic and Demotic worked on the same principles as the Hieroglyphs but the symbols were considerably simplified.
During the 4th century BC, the Greeks devised a number of symbol systems which reduced letters to a single stroke and which could also be used to represent common words, suffixes and prefixes. Such systems are generally referred to as stenography (narrow writing), brachygraphy (short writing) or tachygraphy (swift writing). Their purpose was to make writing more compact and/or faster.
One shorthand system popular with the Romans was Tironian Notes or Notae Tironianae, which was invented by Cicero's secretary Tiro in order to record Cicero's speeches. It used a combination of simplified letters and special symbols and was used in Europe in various forms until the Middle Ages.
Pitman Shorthand was devised by Sir Isaac Pitman (1813-1897) and was first published in 1837. Over the years is has been gradually improved and has been also adapted for 15 different languages. The system was widely used in the UK and USA by secretaries, reporters and writers, but lost popularity with the invention of pocket tape recorders."
How many of these forms would you have trouble reading? All of them I expect! Do you think it is the barstardisation of the written word as opposed to a purely symbolic representation that causes people to be so put off by text speak?
I think the real concern is that as text speak itself becomes so popular it will overshadow the generally accepted forms of more eloquant modern language skills.
I find text speak particularly annoying however I do accept language is an ever evolving beast and it just happens that I find the text speak variation quite ugly!
For instance I relish reading :
Ful wel she sange the service devine,
Entuned in hire nose ful swetely;
And Frenche she spake ful fayre and fetisly,
After the scole of Stratford atte bowe,
For Frenche of Paris was to hire unknowe.
(Geoffrey Chaucer, Canterbury Tales. Prologue)
But feel unmoved by :
R uz ok 2 mt 2nite?
I think it's because I perceive Chaucer as a form of poetic language that can be read aloud and text speak as a flat sounding manipulation.
However text speak could be argued as simply being a form of 'shorthand' as used by the human race over the centuries, I quote from 'Omniglot - writing systems and language' :
"Ever since the invention of writing scribes have used various techniques to enable them to take notes quickly and efficiently.
The Ancient Egyptians devised two scripts, Hieratic and Demotic, as alternatives to their complex Hieroglyphic script, which was used mainly for monumental inscriptions. Both Hieratic and Demotic worked on the same principles as the Hieroglyphs but the symbols were considerably simplified.
During the 4th century BC, the Greeks devised a number of symbol systems which reduced letters to a single stroke and which could also be used to represent common words, suffixes and prefixes. Such systems are generally referred to as stenography (narrow writing), brachygraphy (short writing) or tachygraphy (swift writing). Their purpose was to make writing more compact and/or faster.
One shorthand system popular with the Romans was Tironian Notes or Notae Tironianae, which was invented by Cicero's secretary Tiro in order to record Cicero's speeches. It used a combination of simplified letters and special symbols and was used in Europe in various forms until the Middle Ages.
Pitman Shorthand was devised by Sir Isaac Pitman (1813-1897) and was first published in 1837. Over the years is has been gradually improved and has been also adapted for 15 different languages. The system was widely used in the UK and USA by secretaries, reporters and writers, but lost popularity with the invention of pocket tape recorders."
How many of these forms would you have trouble reading? All of them I expect! Do you think it is the barstardisation of the written word as opposed to a purely symbolic representation that causes people to be so put off by text speak?
I think the real concern is that as text speak itself becomes so popular it will overshadow the generally accepted forms of more eloquant modern language skills.
my English is poor, i accept that, my grammer is equally poor, i wasted my education, and i have paid the price for it
but by god does text speak annoy me, i realise i shorten words, when typing, i often use cos, rather than because, yes, i know im being hypocritical, but if i got to the point where i started saying things like gr8, u and the like, then please, hurt me
but by god does text speak annoy me, i realise i shorten words, when typing, i often use cos, rather than because, yes, i know im being hypocritical, but if i got to the point where i started saying things like gr8, u and the like, then please, hurt me
