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o been reading this...u lot are all of your tits
yes pms can be bugging...yes i have sent some ( i hold my hands up)
and i have got some unwanted ones...
u tell one of the @ people they warn do again they of...
moving to next point
i think its good they done this
say you a couple..single forget the groups looking for bah bah bah and more bah.....who would u sooner meet someone who is known... or someone out the blue who u and everyone knows adam about....i see loads of adds where people say a another let bah and the more bah never showed....and you going get that from people whos not got the star of a verifiction
can see where wishmaster is coming from..i will like ayone till they give me reason to..
you do get honest people wishmaster...but not everyone is like you...
on the computer its so easy to turn yourseif in to something u are not...fact
so here here to the verification rock on,,,,,,,
shit i forgot i aint got it.....na load of crap,who thought of this silly ideal
We are swingers and that involves sex and sex involves desire to have sex with others.
A non-plussed person stands as much a chance of having sex as a plussed up person because others will desire them. It's a basic human instinct and no system anywhere can counteract it.
I believe you have done a great disservice to those "plussed up" people in the chat room by assuming that they regard all non plussed up people as tossers. I certainly do not judge anyone on that basis and anyone who has spoken to me directly will have heard me say at some point that one of my philosophies in life is: I will like anyone until THEY give me a reason not to.

once again i'm confused.
either it makes a difference, and establishes credibility, which is the point of being +'ed. or it doesn't. in which case it's bullshit, as you've just argued, cos you personally place no credence on the +, and make no distinction?
which way do you wanna have it, cos i really am absolutely lost?
and to reiterate the point, i WOULD have a +!
n x x x ;)
Quote by Calista
It make work in reverse ... the ones with + may now seem unattainable therefore females without + are an easier target!!!!!

or simplyseemless friendly since they carry crosses to ward off vampires ?
or, more likely being the more mundane - if I recall correctly the plus crew scroll to the top, so when the chatroom is busy it's actually the hoi poiloi that get seen first.... is that right ? [editted... well, i didn't recall correctly did i? must be my habit of reading lists from the bottom[
Quote by YouAintSeenMeRite
assholes coming into the chat room looking for a quick shag (I will take this opportunity to say that these loathesome creatures regard the women in the chat room - our friends - as whores who should drop their knickers on demand).

erm . . i happen to know some couples here, who would really take offence to the idea that they are loathsome creatures, because they are in actual fact, and have admitted as much, looking for a quick shag!
and in actual fact, a single fem having a +v is gonna encourage that anyways, as many single fems have pointed out, and have consequently rejected the idea themselves.
can we actually argue on the point of principle here, which some of us understand, instead of just bloody disparaging, cos i'm probably well beyond the line where i look an arrogant tosser trying to address the actual issues here?
n x x x ;)
I think I've demonstrated that I understand this system fully. I'm not given to ranting but much prefer to debate intelligently.
If you have read any of my earlier posts you would have noted that I was specifically referring to single males who come into the chat room pissed up late on Saturday nights/Sunday mornings looking for a quick shag because they've been unsuccessful on their night out clubbin. They expect and immediate influx of sex starved women to readily agree to pop round their house and drop their knickers for them and when this is not forthcoming they get abusive. On several occasions no ops have been present to boot them out. I have seen this myself many times and know it to be true and accurate.
Wishmaster.
Quote by kinkyluton
o been reading this...u lot are all of your tits
yes pms can be bugging...yes i have sent some ( i hold my hands up)
and i have got some unwanted ones...
u tell one of the @ people they warn do again they of...
moving to next point
i think its good they done this
say you a couple..single forget the groups looking for bah bah bah and more bah.....who would u sooner meet someone who is known... or someone out the blue who u and everyone knows adam about....i see loads of adds where people say a another let bah and the more bah never showed....and you going get that from people whos not got the star of a verifiction
can see where wishmaster is coming from..i will like ayone till they give me reason to..
you do get honest people wishmaster...but not everyone is like you...
on the computer its so easy to turn yourseif in to something u are not...fact
so here here to the verification rock on,,,,,,,
shit i forgot i aint got it.....na load of crap,who thought of this silly ideal

You hereby verified as a certifiable loon!
Can't wait to meet ya at Erotica Munch ya funny fecker. (in a non gay way of course....... hehehe - private joke)
I wish i could draw cos i have a great cartoon in my head of this scenario...
A girl laid on a picnic bench. spit roasted .... a queue of 20 men with pants round ankles and dicks in hand all lined up.. and her hubby stood at her side with a paper and pencil saying
" RIGHT THATS YOU TWO VERIFIED..... MOVE ON PLEASE WE AINT GOT ALL NIGHT!"
Quote by Jewcy_Joanne
I wish i could draw cos i have a great cartoon in my head of this scenario...
A girl laid on a picnic bench. spit roasted .... a queue of 20 men with pants round ankles and dicks in hand all lined up.. and her hubby stood at her side with a paper and pencil saying
" RIGHT THATS YOU TWO VERIFIED..... MOVE ON PLEASE WE AINT GOT ALL NIGHT!"

lol lol lol lol
Quote by Jewcy_Joanne
I wish i could draw cos i have a great cartoon in my head of this scenario...
A girl laid on a picnic bench. spit roasted .... a queue of 20 men with pants round ankles and dicks in hand all lined up.. and her hubby stood at her side with a paper and pencil saying
" RIGHT THATS YOU TWO VERIFIED..... MOVE ON PLEASE WE AINT GOT ALL NIGHT!"

That would be an excellent way of getting everyone verified thus eliminating the need for verification!..... now need a volunteer fem? I got the notepad and pencil.
Wishmaster.
oh FGS do you not think i don't know all about single males? i am one FGS, and constantly battle the attitude that we are all desperate wannafucks! ((( see previous post by system implementer for the origin of that particular wording!! )))
i was once a shite channel op, who had to step in to god knows how many rows, to defuse that particular assumption? and boot people permanently from the site because of an opinion *I* made about them?
you yourself have claimed you are intelligent enough to make your own distinctions, as have many others. so the point is, WTF is the point? if members of this site are clever enough to make those distinctions, why do we need to report our shags to some administrator to gain special status, who will then assign us a status so those less able than ourselves ((( ???????? ))) can then make that distinction themselves?????
either we are genuine on our own merits or we are not!
i am not gonna report my sexual conquests to a site admin, just so i can have a particular status on this site. a status that is only given to those who are quite prepared to breach discretion in order to gain a + by gossiping about the fact that they have just fucked someone!
what, in my argument, and that of god knows how many members outraged by this, making whole essays on moral grounds, is soooooo difficult to understand?
you will see ops, ex ops, mods, mere members, outraged by the whole idea! i reiterate once again, i could have claimed the +, but it disgusts me, and it disgusts many members.
neil x x x ;)
Yes but some of us 'may' have wanted to use it in future ....
Quote by Jewcy_Joanne
I wish i could draw cos i have a great cartoon in my head of this scenario...
A girl laid on a picnic bench. spit roasted .... a queue of 20 men with pants round ankles and dicks in hand all lined up.. and her hubby stood at her side with a paper and pencil saying
" RIGHT THATS YOU TWO VERIFIED..... MOVE ON PLEASE WE AINT GOT ALL NIGHT!"

:lol2: What happens if I join the queue with bona fide intentions and then change my mind when I get there?
Quote by DeniseBabe
oh FGS do you not think i don't know all about single males? i am one FGS, and constantly battle the attitude that we are all desperate wannafucks! ((( see previous post by system implementer for the origin of that particular wording!! )))
i was once a shite channel op, who had to step in to god knows how many rows, to defuse that particular assumption? and boot people permanently from the site because of an opinion *I* made about them?
you yourself have claimed you are intelligent enough to make your own distinctions, as have many others. so the point is, WTF is the point? if members of this site are clever enough to make those distinctions, why do we need to report our shags to some administrator to gain special status, who will then assign us a status so those less able than ourselves ((( ???????? ))) so that they can then make that distinction themselves?????
either we are genuine on our own merits or we are not!
i am not gonna report my sexual conquests to a site admin, just so i can have a particular status on this site. a status that is only given to those who are quite prepared to breach discretion in order to gain a + by gossiping about the fact that they have just fucked someone!
what, in my argument, and that of god knows how many members outraged by this, making whole essays on moral grounds, is soooooo difficult to understand?
you will see ops, ex ops, mods, mere members, outraged by the whole idea! i reiterate once again, i could have claimed the +, but it disgusts me, and it disgusts many members.
neil x x x ;)

Well as you dont use the chatroom you wont need to anyway rolleyes :roll:
sorry denise, but that shite argument has been made before. you well know i spent several months in there 24/7, and put my good opinion on the line to OP it to defend the likes of you in there, so forgive me i if as a site member i believe i have a right to express an opinion on the entire notion!
that is no argument!
neil x x x ;)
Quote by Jewcy_Joanne
I wish i could draw cos i have a great cartoon in my head of this scenario...
A girl laid on a picnic bench. spit roasted .... a queue of 20 men with pants round ankles and dicks in hand all lined up.. and her hubby stood at her side with a paper and pencil saying
" RIGHT THATS YOU TWO VERIFIED..... MOVE ON PLEASE WE AINT GOT ALL NIGHT!"

:shock: :shock: :shock: Just spat my coffee over the blooming keyboard :shock: rotflmao :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: Brill Joanne !!!
Lucy x
Quote by YouAintSeenMeRite
i am not gonna report my sexual conquests to a site admin, just so i can have a particular status on this site. a status that is only given to those who are quite prepared to breach discretion in order to gain a + by gossiping about the fact that they have just fucked someone!

So don't then - it's your free choice and entirely up to you. Simple really.
Quote by Ice Pie
I wish i could draw cos i have a great cartoon in my head of this scenario...
A girl laid on a picnic bench. spit roasted .... a queue of 20 men with pants round ankles and dicks in hand all lined up.. and her hubby stood at her side with a paper and pencil saying
" RIGHT THATS YOU TWO VERIFIED..... MOVE ON PLEASE WE AINT GOT ALL NIGHT!"

:lol2: What happens if I join the queue with bona fide intentions and then change my mind when I get there?
..................stiffles more than a giggle and bites her lip ...
according to previous statements Ice then you should indeed be verified .... although what that has proven is beyond me* ...........
*well no it proves that it is poorly thought out
Neil sweetie.... I think its time to give up.... The ones that are now arguing the toss are people with a + and therefore do not want it taken away.... They are up there at the top with the clique....
But I will ask this.... Have the people with a + ever been in a chat room with this system before??... I think not!!....
It does divide, it does make people assume things and to be honest just because someone has a + doesn't mean you are going to get a shag!!.... If you cant work out who are or are not "genuine" then you need to rethink your elmination process....
If it aint broke dont fix it!!....
Shireen
Quote by shireen-steve
If it aint broke dont fix it!!....

Now you bloody tell me!!!!!!
Anybody know how to put a washing machine back together?
Dave_Notts
Quote by Dave__Notts
If it aint broke dont fix it!!....

Now you bloody tell me!!!!!!
Anybody know how to put a washing machine back together?
Dave_Notts
:laughabove: :laughabove:
Quote by Dave__Notts
If it aint broke dont fix it!!....

Now you bloody tell me!!!!!!
Anybody know how to put a washing machine back together?
Dave_Notts
:doh:
Shireen
xxx
and round and round it goes ....
I'm non the wiser. i've discovered that you don't have to shag someone to get verified you just needed to have intent. Well, once upon a time I intended to shag lots of people, particularly during and after the Notts Munch (oh - a meet!), however that doesn't count 'cos it's a Munch.
I have shagged people off the site :shock: but they're not verified and not likely to be 'cos they're not regular users of the chatroom or Forum. does that mean they aren't genuine? or that i'm not? so, we genuinely did not have sex?
I've always clearly stated I'm "not looking" which to me (but obviously not to the dozens of people who slated me for it) meant that I was still a genuine member of the site, there was a possibilty I may swing but as and when it suited me not to gain some sort of status.
I assumed my honesty, openness, pics, phone number, real name, real name email addy and attendance at social events organised by SH members would be enough to secure my postion as a 'genuine' member of the site. No? i just need to have not-shagged the 'right' people? Clique alert!
as for the comment that the + status does not make the chatroom any less sociable or open to all - what about the person who got booted for asking a question about the + ??
I've been in the chatroom today and of the 4 newbies that PM'd me without asking, not one of them knew a damn thing about the + or what it meant. It's along-running joke based on hard fact that newbies to the chatroom never read the bloody rules in the first place. So who is this system serving?
i can't help but think it's all a bit "look at me, I've had sex" in-crowd bollox anyway.
As I said before, nothing will get done about this. Complain all you want, the powers that be will do what they want, like it or not. It's obviously far too much fun for them to be sat perving over who's shagged who than to dare to show their faces and stand up for what they believe in.
I just think it's sick, tbh. What next - pics to prove it?
Quote by DeniseBabe
i am not gonna report my sexual conquests to a site admin, just so i can have a particular status on this site. a status that is only given to those who are quite prepared to breach discretion in order to gain a + by gossiping about the fact that they have just fucked someone!

So don't then - it's your free choice and entirely up to you. Simple really.
All you say in email is that u can verify they are genuine.... they dont ask for an essay of the meet that took place... upon sending the email they then send u one back to confirm that the person u want verified actually asked for it......... my guess is it that if u verify someone without their consent you will be banned from the room for mis-use.
Denise if this is the scenario Why do I have a + next to my name ??.. On going into the chatroom tonight , I found this to be the case.! I never asked to be vertified, And I have never consented!! So therefore someone has obviously vertified me without my permission mad
Lucy :confused:
So what you're saying is that if someone verifies me and he was a crap shag i can call him a liar and get him banned? excellent!
Quote by Jewcy_Joanne
So what you're saying is that if someone verifies me and he was a crap shag i can call him a liar and get him banned? excellent!

Well, that'll be me banned then...........I'll go pack my bags :cry:
Dave_Notts
What can i say that hasn't already been said previously by people who have very strong, real and now feelings about something which is being slated by others.
The going round in circles of the why's, who's what for's, is just that - a circle. There is no way forward, back or side motion.
So here is my take on this, how i feel about it.
Swinging heaven has given me the courage to look at my life in a different way. You have in a way enabled me to look at my physical self without disgust, shame or lack of self worth. I have laughed along this road, being amongst cyber people, with all there little faults, wether that be, timewasters, idiots on a saturday night, drunks, abusives, whoever !!!!! Weedling those, is how to truly identify a timewaster, an idiot etc. Without them, you COULDN'T identify the genuine ones. They have each had there part to play in this journey.
The room is without distinction in its nature. There are rules, which are adhered to, or not, administered by the ops. There are no real names identifying an individaul in real life. There is nothing which distinguishes individuals. They each have the power to be who they want to be. Because this is cyber. These rooms have allowed me to be the parts of me which i have never been allowed to be before.
So, I could be horny. It is allowed. Its not nasty, disgusting, vile or anything which i had never allowed it to be before. For the first time, i was enjoying my body. In real life too. It wasn't just all in my head. You lot taught me my physical freedom. Something which some may, or may not, have more reason to understand than others. Does it matter?
Could i ever, ever ever, have had the same experience in a room where distinctions were made from the onset? The little "+", might be representative of stuff, or not, it might have been brought into effect in a bad way or not. The point is, it represents something. It represents that in some way, that individual is someone different.
The problem - trying to fix something, when you can't identify the exact problem.
The solution - The whole ethos of this site, is about respect, and tolleration of others. Who are we to not tollerate. When someone is disrespectful, we do not tollerate them, and they are removed. Until they do the thing which is not tollerated, then we should be respectful. So the timewasters, the drunks, the idiots, have the same rights and priviledge of individuality as the couple, the single female, the bifem, the single male, whoever !!!!
To the people on high, who have remained anonymous throughout, please please, remove the verification. You are anonymous. No one will ever know.
With all my love, hugs and kisses
Little
XXX
Quote by Jewcy_Joanne
So what you're saying is that if someone verifies me and he was a crap shag i can call him a liar and get him banned? excellent!

lol :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
JJ you are my HERO!!
Sean
Quote by little
What can i say that hasn't already been said previously...

Quite a lot, I thought... great post.
I guess open minded means different things to different people.
If anybody wishes to shag me I will give them a +
Its not a chatroom + though so it'll be of no use to you whatsoever there,sorry.
has anyone seen me grandad i think wishmaster has pinched him again
evil
ive been in the chatroom loads of times and have had some lovely chats with nice people
never had a problem in there myself
Quote by Jewcy_Joanne
And if you are genuine and refuse the + then you're hiding something and don't deserve to be genuine..

before I say anything - I haven't read any further than this post, but wanted to highlight this point........
I refused the + but I'm not hiding anything. I'm a bi fem in an exclusive relationship. At this moment in time, we don't want to play with anyone else. I wanted the + to be removed because I don't want people in the chatroom to think that I'm an active swinger and therefore at least likely to meet them "with the intent" to shag their asses off
This, IMHO, makes me a very genuine person. I love the openmindedness of the people on this site. I love the fact that I can attend munches and not have to be someone I am not. I love being able to talk very openly about my bi-sexual thoughts/feelings/tendencies and not be judged for them. I love being able to talk about anything sexual - AND anything non sexual. I do NOT pretend that I am an active swinger. I don't lead people on about anything, nor do I give them false hope of being able to bed me. I don't pretend anything, I am who I am, and I don't NEED to pretend to be anyone else.
Joanne, I'm pretty sure this post wasn't directed at me. I felt the need to reply to it simply because what you said is SURELY the way many newbies will see the verification system. So now that I have openly rejected my newly found (and totally uninvited) verified status, am I suddenly a bloke with his cock in his hand just waiting for pics of bi fems for my immediate short-term sexual satisfaction? I bloody hope not, because my kids will be mortally shocked to suddenly have to start calling their mum "dad" and my partner will totally reject me :cry:
ahh noooooooooooo angel hun I was takin the mick out of the situation...
cos i'm probably in the same boat as you I think without a doubt I am known to all in the chatroom as "genuine" and I've already gone through the list of what i've done and who I've done it with..... and I too aint a +
The reason i wasn't automatically given one is cos i stood down from opping as the list was being made and as I was an op it would of been down to me to make a start up list of peeps I knew to be genuine... so as I've stood down without making a list the op we had played with would have had no reason to put me on the list cos she wouldn't have known till it was too late... once monday came no ops can nominate for 3 months... so i'm told... no one has anyway of knowing or verifiying that i suspect.
So luckily i have a choice and so far I've turned down about 9 offers of the + while i was watching this thread continue..... 2 things have stopped me accepting it so far... one was the attitude and domineering response given to genuine peoples comments in a post in here and the second Little's post she really made it very clear... great post Little xxxxx