OK. I'll post why i am writing this up later, because if i write it now it'll skew the result.... but for now all you get are the facts. No elaboration, no justification. And all i want is your opinion. Even though i am setting myself up as a compelete bastard. So was i wrong when i did this:
On delivery the other day at 9am, i enter a road about to deliver mail to that road. A man stands up from a doorway i am about to deliver to, and is obviously, from his appearance and demeanour a habitual drunk. He mumbles "poshhhhtmannn".. and stumbles off up an alleyway to urinate.
On the step he has left a can of Carlsberg Special Brew. And i could step around it, but i don't, i kick it out of my way. And the entire contents empty onto the steps. He returns, i am delivering on the other side of the road, and see him examine the can. He is distraught.
He says,"did you knock the can over?"
i said "yes".
He wants a replacement.
i say "Fuck Off"...and flick him a V-sign.
And on i go with my delivery.
Was it wrong?
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would this be the morning of the great hangover?
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would this be the morning of the great hangover?
Nope.... the morning before i got pissed as a newt....
then yes, as the larger gods took their revenge!!
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OK. I'll post why i am writing this up later, because if i write it now it'll skew the result.... but for now all you get are the facts. No elaboration, no justification. And all i want is your opinion. Even though i am setting myself up as a compelete bastard. So was i wrong when i did this:
On delivery the other day at 9am, i enter a road about to deliver mail to that road. A man stands up from a doorway i am about to deliver to, and is obviously, from his appearance and demeanour a habitual drunk. He mumbles "poshhhhtmannn".. and stumbles off up an alleyway to urinate.
On the step he has left a can of Carlsberg Special Brew. And i could step around it, but i don't, i kick it out of my way. And the entire contents empty onto the steps. He returns, i am delivering on the other side of the road, and see him examine the can. He is distraught.
He says,"did you knock the can over?"
i said "yes".
He wants a replacement.
i say "Fuck Off"...and flick him a V-sign.
And on i go with my delivery.
Was it wrong?
Well yeah, but I would have been more cruel. I would have picked it up and then drunk it slowly in front of him, just out of his reach. That would have really pissed him off
:lol: :lol: :lol: But in answer to the question... it was wrong...... please submit a hundred lines... "I will not kick over Carlsberg cans in future"... to the beer police immediately :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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On the step he has left a can of Carlsberg Special Brew. And i could step around it, but i don't, i kick it out of my way. And the entire contents empty onto the steps.
Well at least you didn't do what I thought you were going to say . . . pee into the can before he came back :shock: :lol2:
Postie, that was a nasty cheap trick . . . . . . I like your style :evil2:
T-J
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But in answer to the question... it was wrong...... please submit a hundred lines... "I will not kick over Carlsberg cans in future"... to the beer police immediately
I will not kick over Carlsberg cans in future
I will not kick over Carlsberg cans in future
I will not kick over Carlsberg cans in future
I will not kick over Carlsberg cans in future
I will kick over Carlsberg cans in future
I will kick over Carlsberg cans in future
I will kick over Carlsberg cans in future
I will kick over Carlsberg cans in future
I will kick over Carlsberg cans in future
I will kick over Carlsberg cans in future
I will kick over Carlsberg cans in future
I will kick over Carlsberg cans in future
I will kick over Carlsberg cans in future
I will kick over Carlsberg cans in future
I take the Beer Police VERY seriously !
Postie,
I can see through you, and see that you were in fact doing this guy a big favour.
You knew that he had had enough alcohol, and needed no more, and you also knew that you were doing his liver a favour.
Therefore well done for your good samaritan(ness) and saving the bloke from himself.
Or else you were just being a really nasty b*stard - ha ha ha, I wish I'd have done it myself. The look on his face was probably classic !!!!!!
I can see through you, and see that you were in fact doing this guy a big favour.
You knew that he had had enough alcohol, and needed no more, and you also knew that you were doing his liver a favour.
Therefore well done for your good samaritan(ness) and saving the bloke from himself.
Or else you were just being a really nasty b*stard - ha ha ha, I wish I'd have done it myself. The look on his face was probably classic !!!!!!
Orgasminator
OK.. probalbly gonna shoot myself in the foot here....
BUT why deliberately kick the can over.....? Just imagine how you would feel if someone deliberately emptied the contents of your last beer
OK, ok he's a drinker maybe even a down and out, but does that give you me or anyone else the right to demoralize in such a deliberate way????
i'll just sit back and wait for the why and wherefores now that i've jumped in with my 2penneth worth
BUT why deliberately kick the can over.....? Just imagine how you would feel if someone deliberately emptied the contents of your last beer
OK, ok he's a drinker maybe even a down and out, but does that give you me or anyone else the right to demoralize in such a deliberate way????
i'll just sit back and wait for the why and wherefores now that i've jumped in with my 2penneth worth
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OK.. probalbly gonna shoot myself in the foot here....
BUT why deliberately kick the can over.....? Just imagine how you would feel if someone deliberately emptied the contents of your last beer
OK, ok he's a drinker maybe even a down and out, but does that give you me or anyone else the right to demoralize in such a deliberate way????
i'll just sit back and wait for the why and wherefores now that i've jumped in with my 2penneth worth
Yep ! and i don't know the answers myself... i just know why i did it. ... and want some feedback.
Depends on whether he was a disabled war veteran suffering from Post Traumatic Stress who has been spurned and rejected by a society that he gave his health and well being for in the bloody horror of battle, whose only escape from the tortuous nightmares that plague him day and night is the blanket of soporific haze provided by alchohol which is the only thing that keeps him from the despair of ending a once heroic and full life that has now descended into a meaningless oblivion.Difficult to judge someones entire life on a single post about a momentary 9am encounter.
lhk
Kat
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Difficult to judge someones entire life on a single post about a momentary 9am encounter.
lhk
Kat
drama queen Being a postie myself.....i am normally in good mood...so long as people on my delivery leave me alone to get on with the job instead of pestering me for their post....so if i had done something like what you did it would only have been if one of my customers had been rude to me to piss me off that much other than that i would have left it alone!.....so come on then what pissed you off before that happened?
OK. to stop this dragging on any longer than needs be...
Here's my explanation, justification, call it what you will. It may not make sense, I will just write this as it comes out. So...
As everyone knows, i am a drinker, and don't have any problem with people being drunk. BUT there is a time and a place for it. And this fella was waaaay over being drunk. It's an illness, and if you saw someone standing on a bridge, threatening to jump, would you walk on by? Or would you shout "Jump".
I kicked the can over with two main thoughts in my mind, and i did actually stand there while he was down the alleyway have a pee, thinking this over. One was the above, he's a drunk and needs no more booze, especially at 9am in the morning, because it'll be at least an hour before he can get another can. The other thought was purely malicious, and that is what i have been mulling over....
Why should someone be able to sit around, getting arseholed, and being a complete waste of space to society at large...while most people say, or do nothing about it. who pays for this drink? You and I do, indirectly, and therefore, in my opinion, if he feels able to crash out on other peoples doorsteps, to piss in their alleyways, to drink at 9am in a public place, then sorry, but sometimes you get your beer spilled.
He asked me to replace the beer i had kicked over, but in my opinion, i had already bought him that beer... so thats why i replied as i did.
And, just in case anyone thinks i was picking on him, he was far larger than me, he was drunk, and it did end up getting quite nasty in the street... and i told him most of the above to his face.
Anyhows... i am off out for the night... i may return drunk....
Here's my explanation, justification, call it what you will. It may not make sense, I will just write this as it comes out. So...
As everyone knows, i am a drinker, and don't have any problem with people being drunk. BUT there is a time and a place for it. And this fella was waaaay over being drunk. It's an illness, and if you saw someone standing on a bridge, threatening to jump, would you walk on by? Or would you shout "Jump".
I kicked the can over with two main thoughts in my mind, and i did actually stand there while he was down the alleyway have a pee, thinking this over. One was the above, he's a drunk and needs no more booze, especially at 9am in the morning, because it'll be at least an hour before he can get another can. The other thought was purely malicious, and that is what i have been mulling over....
Why should someone be able to sit around, getting arseholed, and being a complete waste of space to society at large...while most people say, or do nothing about it. who pays for this drink? You and I do, indirectly, and therefore, in my opinion, if he feels able to crash out on other peoples doorsteps, to piss in their alleyways, to drink at 9am in a public place, then sorry, but sometimes you get your beer spilled.
He asked me to replace the beer i had kicked over, but in my opinion, i had already bought him that beer... so thats why i replied as i did.
And, just in case anyone thinks i was picking on him, he was far larger than me, he was drunk, and it did end up getting quite nasty in the street... and i told him most of the above to his face.
Anyhows... i am off out for the night... i may return drunk....
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Difficult to judge someones entire life on a single post about a momentary 9am encounter.
lhk
Kat
Fair point.... but i'm guessing he was just a pisshead... i may be wrong of course.
He was about 30, so the only concievable war he fought in was one of the Gulf wars...
Oh....and i really have been mulling over the morality of it, since it happened, still not sure if it was right or not. As others have said, i maybe should have just left it alone. But, not since i was 17 or 18 have i done anything so morallly dubious... so thats why i asked it "out loud" ...
Thanks for the replies everyone....
Thanks for the replies everyone....
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Oh....and i really have been mulling over the morality of it, since it happened, still not sure if it was right or not. As others have said, i maybe should have just left it alone. But, not since i was 17 or 18 have i done anything so morallly dubious... so thats why i asked it "out loud" ...
Thanks for the replies everyone....
Well hey, you're doing alright then aren't you... a proper upstanding citizen! I think you can let yourself off the hook here and forgive yourself one little misdemeanour. Tho you could always make amends and take him a new can tomorrow. Or the number of Alcoholics Anonymous...alcoholism doesn't make someone a 'waste of space to society' as you say in a previous post, it makes them addicts, with a disease, warranting understanding, IMHO, not condemnation.
but what if the drunk man is a hard worker and worked 12 hour shifs everyday and the only reson he was so drunk at that time in the morning is either he has just lost his job so his wife has left him for his best mate took his 3 kids and his dog emptyed his house and the bank account and to top it all off trashed his car only for you to add to his stress by kicking his last can of larger over 
just a thought
just a thought
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Wasting alcohol for whatever reason is disgraceful, you should feel very, very ashamed of yourself.:x :x :x :x :x
Give me a fugging break! Carlsberg Special Jakey Brew was not, is not, nor ever shall be considered "alcohol"! To brew the stuff is disgraceful - well done Postie, that's gotta be worthy of something decent ( I'm thinking of something cool, black and Irish - oh, hang on...Phil Lynott's been dead over 20 years :wink: )
I like your taste in music smokerjim.
On the above issue, it doesnt matter whether it was right or wrong anymore.
you just did it and now its done.
Its no good thinking on what you did and wasting your time worrying about it.
Life is too short to worry. it was a can or beer not the crown jewels or something.
dont worry be happy every little thing is going to be alright
lisamarie
On the above issue, it doesnt matter whether it was right or wrong anymore.
you just did it and now its done.
Its no good thinking on what you did and wasting your time worrying about it.
Life is too short to worry. it was a can or beer not the crown jewels or something.
dont worry be happy every little thing is going to be alright
lisamarie
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Wasting alcohol for whatever reason is disgraceful, you should feel very, very ashamed of yourself.
Give me a fugging break! Carlsberg Special Jakey Brew was not, is not, nor ever shall be considered "alcohol"! To brew the stuff is disgraceful - well done Postie, that's gotta be worthy of something decent ( I'm thinking of something cool, black and Irish- oh, hang on...Phil Lynott's been dead over 20 years :wink: )
terry wogan with frostbite?
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Why should someone be able to sit around, getting arseholed, and being a complete waste of space to society at large...while most people say, or do nothing about it. who pays for this drink? You and I do, indirectly, and therefore, in my opinion, if he feels able to crash out on other peoples doorsteps, to piss in their alleyways, to drink at 9am in a public place, then sorry, but sometimes you get your beer spilled.
He asked me to replace the beer i had kicked over, but in my opinion, i had already bought him that beer... so thats why i replied as i did.
From your claim that you paid for his beer, I take it you assumed that he's living off the state and you resent him spending your tax money on beer? For all you know he could be the chairman of ICI paying more money in taxes in a day than you earn in a year. OK, that's a bit unlikely, but still, who are you to decide whether he should be allowed to drink? I might buy your implied concern for his welfare if you knew him, but you apparently don't and are in no position to know how he got the beer or why he was drinking it. If I were presumptuous enough to appoint myself your judge, I might decide you just did it out of a combination of spite and a primitive territorial hissy fit because his beer was encroaching on your ground, but it's not my place to judge you any more than it's your place to judge him, is it?
Legally, you were wrong. Whether you were morally wrong is between you and your conscience, which I suspect has pricked you or you wouldn't have asked the question. This doesn't really strike me as the venue for seeking absolution, but each to their own... Say three Hail Budweisers and sin no more.
