Well Done Boris!

2 Oct 2008

As his first task as Chairman of the London Police Authority, he tells the cretinous Blair he does not have the support of London so Blair falls on his sword - at last cool

Oh, that he could just do the same with commissar brown and his useless band of hangers-on..
I think we all knew Boris was made of sound stuff..
Boris for PM!!

2 Oct 2008

I loathe Boris and everything he does. Bit scary that he can actually run the police force now as he seems to be a cretinous moron and his decisions are certainly suspect a lot of the time IMO. However what I find difficult to understand is why David Cameron can blame Gordon Brown for the economic crisis in this country when it is happening world wide? I know Britain still has some powers left but I doubt they go that far. If I had to make an educated guess I would think that this particular situation started in America with the greedy wall street types so why blame Brown? Does Cameron think we are all stupid and won't notice the mistake? Oh and with debts of over $700 billion dollars how can Senator McCann promise tax cuts as an election pledge? :kick: :censored:
Right there you go ... shoot me down in flames lol

2 Oct 2008

Quote by GnV
Boris for PM!!

Boris for King actually! :giggle:
Did you see him on the tele program "who do you think you are"? What a clever guy. What a genuinely nice guy too.
Sam xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

2 Oct 2008

You know I dont normaly get involved in debates like this but what the hell.
BF. no disrepecet to yourself as i met you a few times and you are a lovely women but I really do dissagree with you.
This is a global problem without a doubt, but when the going was good brown as chancellor did not look after the money properly, nor did blair.
Between them they created several thousand pointless jobs to make themselves look good, borrowed money like no toomorrow, and when it went beyond his fiscal borrowing rules, he changed the rules FFS
Now I have to say I'm not sure where we would be now if it was a different goverment, but I do know we are up shit creak without a paddle because of desicions made by blair and brown, which have been given a good prod up the arse by the americans to help us along the way.

2 Oct 2008

Quote by buckingfabe
... what I find difficult to understand is why David Cameron can blame Gordon Brown for the economic crisis in this country when it is happening world wide?

Cameron isn't so much blaming the commissar for the economic crisis in UK, he's pulling Brown's ears off for his total lack of ability to run anything - including the tuck shop finances at the local primary School!
The commissar got the UK into this mess and he is running around like a headless chicken trying to find a way out. Remember, this is the Chancellor of Prudence for the past 11 years or so who was apparently putting a little bit by for a rainy day - now the chickens have come home to roost and he has been found severely wanting. He lied to the Country, just like his equally devoid of morals partner in crime Tony Bliar.
Cameron is absolutely right; there is no way that the moron who got the UK into this mess can find a way out of it because that would have to mean admitting he made a mistake.
It now requires a new man at the helm with new ideas and an ability to get things done. Brown's latest initiative is to form a new committee to do this. The man is totally incapable of making a decision - refer to all the big issues that have confronted him so far for evidence of this.
Sir Ian Blair has had the good grace to call it a day and fall on his sword. Commissar Brown should do the same and soon.. before there's nothing left to save!

2 Oct 2008

i cannot stand any of the tories or labour tossers.
Its about time we had a military government with tanks on the streets.
We should have had Idi Amin in charge and Harold Shipman as head of the nhs.
They'd have cleared out the deadwood!

2 Oct 2008

Quote by tyracer
i cannot stand any of the tories or labour tossers.
Its about time we had a military government with tanks on the streets.
We should have had Idi Amin in charge and Harold Shipman as head of the nhs.
They'd have cleared out the deadwood!

Mork calling Ty! rotflmao

I love it. Now could we run through the good points slowly confused

:lol2:
I did have a chortle to meself here biggrin

2 Oct 2008

Quote by Ukwineman
You know I dont normaly get involved in debates like this but what the hell.
BF. no disrepecet to yourself as i met you a few times and you are a lovely women but I really do dissagree with you.
This is a global problem without a doubt, but when the going was good brown as chancellor did not look after the money properly, nor did blair.
Between them they created several thousand pointless jobs to make themselves look good, borrowed money like no toomorrow, and when it went beyond his fiscal borrowing rules, he changed the rules FFS
Now I have to say I'm not sure where we would be now if it was a different goverment, but I do know we are up shit creak without a paddle because of desicions made by blair and brown, which have been given a good prod up the arse by the americans to help us along the way.

Just goes to show ... 2 people , 2 different opinions. I think that Brown made a good job as chancellor. No one was moaning when house prices were soaring and we all had money in our pockets. But still we will never agree so lets differ harmoniously :boxing: (queensbury rules?)

2 Oct 2008

What I find hard to understand is how can a mayor get rid of the highest police officer in London?
Surely that should not be allowed to happen? dunno

2 Oct 2008

Quote by kentswingers777
What I find hard to understand is how can a mayor get rid of the highest police officer in London?
Surely that should not be allowed to happen?

He wasnt wearing the Mayors Hat. It was whilst wearing his Chairman of the Metropolitan Police Authority hat.
Read a 'proper' newspaper to get the correct story lol

2 Oct 2008

Quote by helnheaven
What I find hard to understand is how can a mayor get rid of the highest police officer in London?
Surely that should not be allowed to happen?

He wasnt wearing the Mayors Hat. It was whilst wearing his Chairman of the Metropolitan Police Authority hat.
Read a 'proper' newspaper to get the correct story :lol:
I so love your humour Hel. lol

x

2 Oct 2008

Quote by kentswingers777
What I find hard to understand is how can a mayor get rid of the highest police officer in London?
Surely that should not be allowed to happen?

He wasnt wearing the Mayors Hat. It was whilst wearing his Chairman of the Metropolitan Police Authority hat.
Read a 'proper' newspaper to get the correct story :lol:
I so love your humour Hel. lol

x
I know

:giggle:

2 Oct 2008

boris....should be the one to resign. Surely it is up to the home secretary to decide who runs the police force and if he is up to the job. THe police have done a bloody good job, in what today is a very dangerous world. Boris johnson is person whose weath came from his family..has no idea what it is like to have to struggle for a living. No doubt he has a mate that wants the job and so ousts the police commissionior..... I find it totally unforgiveable.... resign..and go to play where you belong Boris..in he big top with all the other clowns

2 Oct 2008

The next police commissioner will be selected from serving police officer. Yes you are right the met is a home office police force. but they still have a committee, but it's powers are a bit different to the county forces.

3 Oct 2008

Quote by Lost
i cannot stand any of the tories or labour tossers.
Its about time we had a military government with tanks on the streets.
We should have had Idi Amin in charge and Harold Shipman as head of the nhs.
They'd have cleared out the deadwood!

Mork calling Ty! rotflmao

I love it. Now could we run through the good points slowly confused

:lol2:
I did have a chortle to meself here biggrin

that was the idea lost lol

3 Oct 2008

Quote by kentswingers777
What I find hard to understand is how can a mayor get rid of the highest police officer in London?
Surely that should not be allowed to happen?

Boris didn't sack Blair, he just told Blair like it is; that Londoners have no faith in him. He is chairman of the LPA because he is Mayor. His job is to look after the interests of London, and I think he has done that very well!
Remember that the Police operate by consent and there are high numbers of Muslims in London. His dreadful treatment of his Assistant Commissioner couldn't have gone unnoticed and was undermining the support of the Force at large.
His predecessor, (now Lord) John Stevens, was hugely popular with Londoners and the rank and file officers who regarded him as a "coppers copper". Stevens was a big man in every sense had a "presence" which sadly, Blair did not.
If you don't have the consent of the people, better to pack your bags and go.
To his credit, that is what Blair has done. He wasn't sacked by Boris, he couldn't be because there are procedures in place to remove the Commissioner. What he has done though is to show his considerable prowess as a politician and out manoeuvred the executive. (and at his first meeting to boot!)
Hopefully now, London will get better policing because police morale in the capital will improve.
Don't feel that Blair has been badly treated for one minute, the choice to resign was his alone and I'm sure he will be comforted by his golden handshake and massive pension.

3 Oct 2008

Better policing.
The "people" get the policing they deserve. The next met chief will get to "run" the force the way "they" let him/her.
Which "dreadful" treatment is this ?
Oh yes, a guy who was regarded as a waste of space and so up-his-own-backside that all he ever saw was racists under the bed.

So, the public Punch & Judy match that is the spat between Met Commissioner Sir Ian Blair & Assistant Commissioner Tarique Ghaffur has resulted in Ghaffur being suspended from his duties, or put on ‘gardening leave’.
I can’t say I’m surprised since Ghaffur went public with his press conference bleating about being racially & religiously discriminated against. He alleges that he has been treated less favourably than white officers & also that he has not had his contract renewed because he is over 50.
Ghaffur comes as the latest in a line of officers who have tried, sometimes successfully to sue the Met for discrimination. I have no doubt that there have been examples of discrimination within the force. I can honestly say I have never seen or heard any racist behaviour. I have seen several cases of black or Asian officers who have been treated more favourably than white colleagues & I have seen two cases of Asian officers who were totally bloody useless & failed to make their probation who took the force to an industrial tribunal - sometimes known as playing the ‘race’ card, both lost. There was no evidence that they had been discriminated against.

You need to get out more.
Or maybe wil be his replacement
All the backslappers and arse-lickers will be running around in circles now....

3 Oct 2008

Quote by GnV
What I find hard to understand is how can a mayor get rid of the highest police officer in London?
Surely that should not be allowed to happen?

Boris didn't sack Blair, he just told Blair like it is; that Londoners have no faith in him. He is chairman of the LPA because he is Mayor. His job is to look after the interests of London, and I think he has done that very well!
Remember that the Police operate by consent and there are high numbers of Muslims in London. His dreadful treatment of his Assistant Commissioner couldn't have gone unnoticed and was undermining the support of the Force at large.
His predecessor, (now Lord) John Stevens, was hugely popular with Londoners and the rank and file officers who regarded him as a "coppers copper". Stevens was a big man in every sense had a "presence" which sadly, Blair did not.
If you don't have the consent of the people, better to pack your bags and go.
To his credit, that is what Blair has done. He wasn't sacked by Boris, he couldn't be because there are procedures in place to remove the Commissioner. What he has done though is to show his considerable prowess as a politician and out manoeuvred the executive. (and at his first meeting to boot!)
Hopefully now, London will get better policing because police morale in the capital will improve.
Don't feel that Blair has been badly treated for one minute, the choice to resign was his alone and I'm sure he will be comforted by his golden handshake and massive pension.
I for what I have read, dont agree with that.
The guy from what I have seen, has played the race card to get what he wants, and because of that everyone was running scared.
His leap from a junior cop to what I think is 2nd in command, I may be wrong there, but his rise was quick. I have my own opinions as to why this was, but even the guys own ex wife summed the kind of bloke he is up very nicely. Even she said that he has used that card to get what he wants. Maybe he has maybe he has not, but I do not think this guys treatments has been unfair at all, in fact if anything the reverse is true.
Still we will find out soon enough no doubt, when he gets his massive compensation package, which is what it is all about. cool

3 Oct 2008

Quote by kentswingers777
What I find hard to understand is how can a mayor get rid of the highest police officer in London?
Surely that should not be allowed to happen?

Boris didn't sack Blair, he just told Blair like it is; that Londoners have no faith in him. He is chairman of the LPA because he is Mayor. His job is to look after the interests of London, and I think he has done that very well!
Remember that the Police operate by consent and there are high numbers of Muslims in London. His dreadful treatment of his Assistant Commissioner couldn't have gone unnoticed and was undermining the support of the Force at large.
His predecessor, (now Lord) John Stevens, was hugely popular with Londoners and the rank and file officers who regarded him as a "coppers copper". Stevens was a big man in every sense had a "presence" which sadly, Blair did not.
If you don't have the consent of the people, better to pack your bags and go.
To his credit, that is what Blair has done. He wasn't sacked by Boris, he couldn't be because there are procedures in place to remove the Commissioner. What he has done though is to show his considerable prowess as a politician and out manoeuvred the executive. (and at his first meeting to boot!)
Hopefully now, London will get better policing because police morale in the capital will improve.
Don't feel that Blair has been badly treated for one minute, the choice to resign was his alone and I'm sure he will be comforted by his golden handshake and massive pension.
I for what I have read, dont agree with that.
The guy from what I have seen, has played the race card to get what he wants, and because of that everyone was running scared.
His leap from a junior cop to what I think is 2nd in command, I may be wrong there, but his rise was quick. I have my own opinions as to why this was, but even the guys own ex wife summed the kind of bloke he is up very nicely. Even she said that he has used that card to get what he wants. Maybe he has maybe he has not, but I do not think this guys treatments has been unfair at all, in fact if anything the reverse is true.
Still we will find out soon enough no doubt, when he gets his massive compensation package, which is what it is all about. cool

Wasn't it Blair who appointed him?

3 Oct 2008

Quote by GnV
What I find hard to understand is how can a mayor get rid of the highest police officer in London?
Surely that should not be allowed to happen?

Boris didn't sack Blair, he just told Blair like it is; that Londoners have no faith in him. He is chairman of the LPA because he is Mayor. His job is to look after the interests of London, and I think he has done that very well!
Remember that the Police operate by consent and there are high numbers of Muslims in London. His dreadful treatment of his Assistant Commissioner couldn't have gone unnoticed and was undermining the support of the Force at large.
His predecessor, (now Lord) John Stevens, was hugely popular with Londoners and the rank and file officers who regarded him as a "coppers copper". Stevens was a big man in every sense had a "presence" which sadly, Blair did not.
If you don't have the consent of the people, better to pack your bags and go.
To his credit, that is what Blair has done. He wasn't sacked by Boris, he couldn't be because there are procedures in place to remove the Commissioner. What he has done though is to show his considerable prowess as a politician and out manoeuvred the executive. (and at his first meeting to boot!)
Hopefully now, London will get better policing because police morale in the capital will improve.
Don't feel that Blair has been badly treated for one minute, the choice to resign was his alone and I'm sure he will be comforted by his golden handshake and massive pension.
I for what I have read, dont agree with that.
The guy from what I have seen, has played the race card to get what he wants, and because of that everyone was running scared.
His leap from a junior cop to what I think is 2nd in command, I may be wrong there, but his rise was quick. I have my own opinions as to why this was, but even the guys own ex wife summed the kind of bloke he is up very nicely. Even she said that he has used that card to get what he wants. Maybe he has maybe he has not, but I do not think this guys treatments has been unfair at all, in fact if anything the reverse is true.
Still we will find out soon enough no doubt, when he gets his massive compensation package, which is what it is all about. cool

Wasn't it Blair who appointed him?
It could have been, but this guy skipped two positions to become deputy. Normally you have to go through the correct things, you know each step at a time, like others before him had too.
But I think he was allowed to " fast track " to the job. Pressure from Government maybe? :dunno: He def did not go through what would be the normal procedures as others had and thats a fact.

3 Oct 2008

A bit like Blair himself then.. he fast-tracked most of his way through the "system"...

3 Oct 2008

Quote by GnV
A bit like Blair himself then.. he fast-tracked most of his way through the "system"...

lol not like Boris then....he just took daddies money and brought himself into his position. The man is a joke....clowns belong in the circus not in politics.

3 Oct 2008

Quote by deancannock
A bit like Blair himself then.. he fast-tracked most of his way through the "system"...

lol not like Boris then....he just took daddies money and brought himself into his position. The man is a joke....clowns belong in the circus not in politics.
He certainly has a sense of humour, I'd agree..

3 Oct 2008

and at least Boris is doing something positive.. not like the most defunct labour administration in modern history..
and at least he has guts.. not like brown, smith & co who couldn't really give a flying fluck about London..
and what if his parents influence allow him to make London a safer place.. good use of wealth
Boris has his heart in London and is making changes which matter to the people of London.. more so than Red Ken ever did or could.
Ever wondered how much expertise goes into walking the tight-rope and the antics of trapeze artistes?
Good analogy about the circus.. thank you! It highlights the real benefits of Boris

4 Oct 2008

Quote by GnV
and at least Boris is doing something positive.. not like the most defunct labour administration in modern history..
and at least he has guts.. not like brown, smith & co who couldn't really give a flying fluck about London..
and what if his parents influence allow him to make London a safer place.. good use of wealth
Boris has his heart in London and is making changes which matter to the people of London.. more so than Red Ken ever did or could.
Ever wondered how much expertise goes into walking the tight-rope and the antics of trapeze artistes?
Good analogy about the circus.. thank you! It highlights the real benefits of Boris

Boris is good for London? Wow!
I seem to recall underground tickets at such a low price that they were being used by nearly everyone. Unfortunately central government intervened to stop the subsidy. Many Londoners like the congestion charge as it's keeping traffic flowing. Boris is an idiot, a buffoon. We've moved into personality politics like the americans so it's downhill from here.

4 Oct 2008

Quote by GnV
... what I find difficult to understand is why David Cameron can blame Gordon Brown for the economic crisis in this country when it is happening world wide?

Cameron isn't so much blaming the commissar for the economic crisis in UK, he's pulling Brown's ears off for his total lack of ability to run anything - including the tuck shop finances at the local primary School!
The commissar got the UK into this mess and he is running around like a headless chicken trying to find a way out. Remember, this is the Chancellor of Prudence for the past 11 years or so who was apparently putting a little bit by for a rainy day - now the chickens have come home to roost and he has been found severely wanting. He lied to the Country, just like his equally devoid of morals partner in crime Tony Bliar.
Cameron is absolutely right; there is no way that the moron who got the UK into this mess can find a way out of it because that would have to mean admitting he made a mistake.
It now requires a new man at the helm with new ideas and an ability to get things done. Brown's latest initiative is to form a new committee to do this. The man is totally incapable of making a decision - refer to all the big issues that have confronted him so far for evidence of this.
Sir Ian Blair has had the good grace to call it a day and fall on his sword. Commissar Brown should do the same and soon.. before there's nothing left to save!
I've never read so much tosh on this site!
Poll tax - tory idea.
Privatisation - ditto. (now who owns the gas, water, electric, manufacturing etc.....)
Which government brought in prescription charges?
Which government brought in school testing?
Which government thought it a good idea to use a persons assets towards residential care when they get old?
Which government decided a cold weather payment would be £20, payable only when the weather had been below zero for about 5 consecutive days?
Which government linked mp salaries and pensions for themselves?
Black monday? Double figure inflation, mortgages interest rates in double figures....... I could go on but the greed, incompetence and sleeze of the previous government is just too easy a target and how anyone with a concience could ignore the damage that Thatcher and her ilk have left behind should be up against the wall and shot mad

Ok, rant over and I feel better now lol

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4 Oct 2008

Quote by GnV
... what I find difficult to understand is why David Cameron can blame Gordon Brown for the economic crisis in this country when it is happening world wide?

Cameron isn't so much blaming the commissar for the economic crisis in UK, he's pulling Brown's ears off for his total lack of ability to run anything - including the tuck shop finances at the local primary School!
The commissar got the UK into this mess and he is running around like a headless chicken trying to find a way out. Remember, this is the Chancellor of Prudence for the past 11 years or so who was apparently putting a little bit by for a rainy day - now the chickens have come home to roost and he has been found severely wanting. He lied to the Country, just like his equally devoid of morals partner in crime Tony Bliar.
Cameron is absolutely right; there is no way that the moron who got the UK into this mess can find a way out of it because that would have to mean admitting he made a mistake.
It now requires a new man at the helm with new ideas and an ability to get things done. Brown's latest initiative is to form a new committee to do this. The man is totally incapable of making a decision - refer to all the big issues that have confronted him so far for evidence of this.
Sir Ian Blair has had the good grace to call it a day and fall on his sword. Commissar Brown should do the same and soon.. before there's nothing left to save!
I wrote a brilliant repast to this bilge but unfortunately it didn't work. I suggest that anyone interested should read their history books and treat any comment about how good tories were at managing the economy, looking after the sick and disabled, managing education, as pure fiction.

4 Oct 2008

Same old (new) Labour...
Still blaming the Tories rolleyes

4 Oct 2008

Quote by jameybruce
... what I find difficult to understand is why David Cameron can blame Gordon Brown for the economic crisis in this country when it is happening world wide?

Cameron isn't so much blaming the commissar for the economic crisis in UK, he's pulling Brown's ears off for his total lack of ability to run anything - including the tuck shop finances at the local primary School!
The commissar got the UK into this mess and he is running around like a headless chicken trying to find a way out. Remember, this is the Chancellor of Prudence for the past 11 years or so who was apparently putting a little bit by for a rainy day - now the chickens have come home to roost and he has been found severely wanting. He lied to the Country, just like his equally devoid of morals partner in crime Tony Bliar.
Cameron is absolutely right; there is no way that the moron who got the UK into this mess can find a way out of it because that would have to mean admitting he made a mistake.
It now requires a new man at the helm with new ideas and an ability to get things done. Brown's latest initiative is to form a new committee to do this. The man is totally incapable of making a decision - refer to all the big issues that have confronted him so far for evidence of this.
Sir Ian Blair has had the good grace to call it a day and fall on his sword. Commissar Brown should do the same and soon.. before there's nothing left to save!
I've never read so much tosh on this site!
Poll tax - tory idea.
Privatisation - ditto. (now who owns the gas, water, electric, manufacturing etc.....)
Which government brought in prescription charges?
Which government brought in school testing?
Which government thought it a good idea to use a persons assets towards residential care when they get old?
Which government decided a cold weather payment would be £20, payable only when the weather had been below zero for about 5 consecutive days?
Which government linked mp salaries and pensions for themselves?
Black monday? Double figure inflation, mortgages interest rates in double figures....... I could go on but the greed, incompetence and sleeze of the previous government is just too easy a target and how anyone with a concience could ignore the damage that Thatcher and her ilk have left behind should be up against the wall and shot mad

Ok, rant over and I feel better now lol

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Blimey if I had the time to say how much crap this Labour Government has done, since it came to power, I would be here all day and fill up 6 pages. :lol: How many stealth taxes have we had since they came to power? 192 or something like that. The Government that hates cars and their drivers.
Brown and his cronies are out. You know it, I know it, and so do they. Maybe we can then scrap the human rights rubbish, curb immigration, and get the scroungers back to work. Also we will get the vote on the constitution, which funnily enough Labour PROMISED us we would have, and then renagged on it.
Sorry but you are making the Tories out to be demons, and this pile of rabble like angels. :lol:
Plus Thathcher in any poll you want to mention always comes in second, just behind the greatest PM of all time, in Churchill. Dont see many great Labour leaders up there in the polls, unless your talking about Blair or Kinnock. :lol: :lol: :lol:

4 Oct 2008

The last thing I want to see on the SH site is crass political comment, whoever it supports. Get a life, Kent.......