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What does multiculturalism mean to britain?
Sex God
Quote by __random_orbit__
i used to think of multiculturalism as a good thing... allcultures getting along, blending together and existing harmoniously.
However... am I wrong in now thinking that Multiculturalism is the existance of seperate cultures, alonside one another, but remaining just that... seperate...
now, I think that is a bad idea... one will always seek dominance over another... more rights... special demands.
It breeds discomfort between groupings in my opinion.
lp
Iheard once a radio 4 programme about integration etc etc. It stated that in the next 30 generations ( generation being 30 years) that we will all be speaking a common tongue and for the vast majority our skin colour will be almost the same throughout.
If we get through the next 1000 years i'd like to come back then ( although i'd like to come back very very wealthy)
Quote by Lost
i used to think of multiculturalism as a good thing... allcultures getting along, blending together and existing harmoniously.
However... am I wrong in now thinking that Multiculturalism is the existance of seperate cultures, alonside one another, but remaining just that... seperate...
now, I think that is a bad idea... one will always seek dominance over another... more rights... special demands.
It breeds discomfort between groupings in my opinion.
lp
Iheard once a radio 4 programme about integration etc etc. It stated that in the next 30 generations ( generation being 30 years) that we will all be speaking a common tongue and for the vast majority our skin colour will be almost the same throughout.
If we get through the next 1000 years i'd like to come back then ( although i'd like to come back very very wealthy)
Indeed Lostie... but there-in lie some of the difference between the establishment of a Multicultural Society... (groupings seperate)
... and the encouragement of a culturaly/racialy Integrated Society. (mixed)
I like a bit of a mix-up myself
lp
Quote by Hibernian
And in Perry Barr, there is the Saddam Hussain Mosque, and this was whilst he was still ruling Iraq.
How far do you think I would get if I tried to build the Catholic church of St Joseph In Pakistan/Iraq/Egypt/Morroco/Turkey/Afghanisthan?
Yet the UK is full of Mosques an Temples.
That is because Britain is tolerant and understanding of others faiths. Its just a shame that others are not as tolerant as we are.
You go to a middle eastern country with a cross around your neck, as I know somebody that did, and see what kind of dirty looks you would get.
This is a very tolerant country and rightly so, but that should work both ways, but a lot of times it seems it is not.
Sex God
Quote by jaymar
Its a multicultural society not an integrated one. If it was integrated we would have a race that was uniquely distinctive and quite different from Anglo Saxon, Roman and French origins. There would be mixtures from Africa and Asia too.
As it is the main groups are large enough to sustain their own breed, and subsequently their own cultures. each culture lives along side the others. But they don't integrate. They are in partnership.
Actually this is a really good comment, and also I hadn't thought of this before, but we could ALL have multicultural ancestory, who knows?
I know some of my ancestry. My Italian bits have gone. I speak a few words, I did not learn them from my family. I do like Italian food, and make a good pizza, no hut-muck for me. Most of my family would say that Italian food was foreign, even the part Italian side.
One side of my family is Northern and the other Southern. My grandmother was always jibbing about the uncivilized south.
The fact is I have chosen who/what I am, I am Saxon. Not just any Saxon. I am the true perfect one. Ready to stand by my beliefs and my duty, defend the down trodden and innocent, and smite evil.
Then the real fact is all my Saxon/Nordic blood has been diluted. I have no culture of my own, so I am free to choose one. I choose a culture that may be as floored as the rest, but it is me, it defines me. Then again I am just me, and I have chosen what suits me!
Casanova
Quote by Hibernian
How far do you think I would get if I tried to build the Catholic church of St Joseph In Pakistan/Iraq/Egypt/Morroco/Turkey/Afghanisthan?
Yet the UK is full of Mosques an Temples.
They are catholic churchs in Pakistan, Kashmir, Tunisia... I have visited these, the rest I dont know of...
Saint Patrick's Cathedral, Karachi, Pakistan and in 1978 the cathedral celebrated its centenary. The Pakistan Post Office issued special commorative stamps on the occasion.
St. Vincent de Paul Cathedral, Tunisia
Saint Louis Cathedral, Carthage, Tunisia
All Saints Church, Srinagar, Kashmir
Church of Virgin Mary, Jumma, Kashmir
St Mary's Church, Jumma, Kashmir
Quote by jaymar
Its a multicultural society not an integrated one. If it was integrated we would have a race that was uniquely distinctive and quite different from Anglo Saxon, Roman and French origins. There would be mixtures from Africa and Asia too.
As it is the main groups are large enough to sustain their own breed, and subsequently their own cultures. each culture lives along side the others. But they don't integrate. They are in partnership.
Actually this is a really good comment, and also I hadn't thought of this before, but we could ALL have multicultural ancestory, who knows?
Well what is a true Brit?
I think if most of us look back over generations we will see a complete mix.
I for one although born here and three generations back were to, if I go back further from there, there is Irish, Italian, and French. I think that most of the people of Britain are already a mix of allsorts.
Start tracing your family trees it is fascinating.
Casanova
Quote by Hibernian
There are areas of Birmingham with english street names replaced with arabic streetnames and banners over head that say, Allah is the one and only true God, you will serve no other, is that multi culturalism?
In Pakistan, Kashmir and India, all the most of the street signs are in english and quite a few are english street names from when britain was in India, is that multi culturalism?
I am a muslim and I don't want to get into a debate about religion... but I can say Allah & God are the same... from my understand is the same for the Jewish faith... in Islam all of all three faiths are called people of the book... all start with Abraham... Mecca is where Abraham built the first place of worship for God...
Christianity
Judaism
Islam
Bahá'í Faith
these are all Abrahamic religions these are monotheistic faiths
As a muslim I can pray in a church, synagogue, mosque or anywhere I choose to pray as long is clean. I have tried to pray in a church and been told to leave, stopped from being a God Parent for being a muslim by the church.
Islam's holiest book is the Qur'an. The verses of the Quran were revealed from God through the Archangel Gabriel to the Prophet Muhammad on separate occasions. However, Muslims also believe in the religious texts of Judaism and Christianity in their original forms (not the current versions). Torah, Old Testament.
Quote by Peanut
but I can say Allan & God are the same...
Dissecting a post or not, that has to be the funniest typo I've seen in ages.
I thought his name was Brian!
Zeddies- I have a sensible bit about your post, honest. I just need a chuckle first. :thumbup:
(BTW, do you have any idea how difficult it is to concentrate on reading your posts with the boobies jiggling in your avatar?
) Casanova
Quote by Peanut
but I can say Allan & God are the same...
Dissecting a post or not, that has to be the funniest typo I've seen in ages.
Trying to touch type lol....
Sex God
Quote by Mr-Powers
No Allan can't come out...he's been a very naughty boy!
He will be if hes allowed out :lol2:
Casanova
Quote by winchwench
but I can say Allan & God are the same...
Dissecting a post or not, that has to be the funniest typo I've seen in ages.
I thought his name was Brian!
Zeddies- I have a sensible bit about your post, honest. I just need a chuckle first. :thumbup:
(BTW, do you have any idea how difficult it is to concentrate on reading your posts with the boobies jiggling in your avatar?
)I've seen the life of Brian, been to the place it was filmed.... i'm sure he is the son.....lol :rotflmao:
Quote by Sexysmilingeyes
To me it means the end of british culture and traditions.
maybe you could enlighten me what british culture and traditions are ?
fish and chips
toad in the hole
morris dancing
christmas
taking the mickey out of people in power
warm beer
the soar away sun
the village green
dogging
swingers parties
cricket
football
rubgy
strong tea with two sugars
apathy
holding the door open for ladies
friendlyness
club 18-30
scones
the seaside
Freddy Mercury
keeping quiet about injustice till you cant keep your gob shut
anymore,anyone I'm getting Knackered
Quote by swinger29
To me it means the end of british culture and traditions.
maybe you could enlighten me what british culture and traditions are ?
fish and chips
toad in the hole
morris dancing
christmas
taking the mickey out of people in power
warm beer
the soar away sun
the village green
dogging
swingers parties
cricket
football
rubgy
strong tea with two sugars
apathy
holding the door open for ladies
friendlyness
club 18-30
scones
the seaside
Freddy Mercury
keeping quiet about injustice till you cant keep your gob shut
anymore,anyone I'm getting Knackered
I agree with that except the cricket...bloody hate it.
Quote by swinger29
To me it means the end of british culture and traditions.
maybe you could enlighten me what british culture and traditions are ?
fish and chips
toad in the hole
morris dancing
christmas
taking the mickey out of people in power
warm beer
the soar away sun
the village green
dogging
swingers parties
cricket
football
rubgy
strong tea with two sugars
apathy
holding the door open for ladies
friendlyness
club 18-30
scones
the seaside
Freddy Mercury
keeping quiet about injustice till you cant keep your gob shut
anymore,anyone I'm getting Knackered
Going for a curry or a kebab on the way home from the pub.
Phoning for a Chinese or a Pizza ready for when the big match starts.
Booking a holiday in Majorca or Tenerife just after Christmas.
Drinking a foreign wine with the Sunday dinner.
Yup, all typical British customs and traditions :twisted:
Quote by Peanut
To me it means the end of british culture and traditions.
maybe you could enlighten me what british culture and traditions are ?
fish and chips
toad in the hole
morris dancing
christmas
taking the mickey out of people in power
warm beer
the soar away sun
the village green
dogging
swingers parties
cricket
football
rubgy
strong tea with two sugars
apathy
holding the door open for ladies
friendlyness
club 18-30
scones
the seaside
Freddy Mercury
keeping quiet about injustice till you cant keep your gob shut
anymore,anyone I'm getting Knackered
Going for a curry or a kebab on the way home from the pub.
Phoning for a Chinese or a Pizza ready for when the big match starts.
Booking a holiday in Majorca or Tenerife just after Christmas.
Drinking a foreign wine with the Sunday dinner.
Yup, all typical British customs and traditions :twisted:
not in my house mate.
Quote by swinger29
To me it means the end of british culture and traditions.
maybe you could enlighten me what british culture and traditions are ?
fish and chips agree
toad in the hole ??
morris dancing - never seen in real life
christmas - christmas is a christian tradition not a british one
taking the mickey out of people in power - something to be proud of ??
warm beer -if thats your thing
the soar away sun
the village green
dogging hardly soemthing to be taught at british culture to those arriving here ??
swingers parties as above
cricket - bad losers and even worse when we win
football as above but with thugs !
rubgy agree
strong tea with two sugars - tea that is made by these others cultures haha
apathy
holding the door open for ladies
friendlyness ... not to other cultures it would seem
club 18-30- classy!
scones
the seaside
Freddy Mercury
keeping quiet about injustice till you cant keep your gob shut
anymore,anyone I'm getting Knackered
Quote by Sexysmilingeyes
To me it means the end of british culture and traditions.
maybe you could enlighten me what british culture and traditions are ?
fish and chips agree ty
toad in the hole ?? sausages in yorkshire pudding
morris dancing - never seen in real life yes it is
christmas - christmas is a christian tradition not a british one 1500 years of british christianity makes it a tradition as in church of England
taking the mickey out of people in power - something to be proud of ?? of coarse it is
warm beer -if thats your thing not mine
the soar away sun
the village green
dogging hardly soemthing to be taught at british culture to those arriving here ?? yes ok lets not involve them
swingers parties as above as above
cricket - bad losers and even worse when we win whats wrong with that
football as above but with thugs ! at £60 a ticket bloody well off thugs
rubgy agree
strong tea with two sugars - tea that is made by these others cultures haha still british
apathy
holding the door open for ladies
friendlyness ... not to other cultures it would seem especially if they are polish women who elbow your 10 yro daughter in the head cos they are in a rush ( sorry not allowed to say that incase its racist)
club 18-30- classy!
scones
the seaside
Freddy Mercury
keeping quiet about injustice till you cant keep your gob shut
anymore,anyone I'm getting Knackered
I never said they were good traditions or ones we dont share with other cultures but they are still ours.
As the title of my post states..I feel 50 / 50 about being of Mixed Race background in the U.K in 2008.
In this nation we do not have a active Far Right unlike other nations in Europe. So I do feel safe but then I don't feel welcome in certain areas of my own city Liverpool.
I am made to feel not welcome or get dirty looks when walking down a street of a un-friendly area.
Yet when I look at the English national Football Team, I see Men near the same age as me playing & doing the bussiness...Theo's Hat Trick...
Lewis in F1... :D
Yet if you look at Eastenders where is the major NON - White character...
: If it's set in East London that's now the most diverse place in the U.K..so where is the major character on par with ...Phil or Ian or Dot or Well Hard.
So I have a major beef with the media but it's slowly getting better.
Things are good & bad..50 /50. Yet the thing that get's me is respect for each other & the enviorment. Litter, Dog Mess, Vandalism...
In this nation we do not have a active Far Right unlike other nations in Europe. So I do feel safe but then I don't feel welcome in certain areas of my own city Liverpool.
I am made to feel not welcome or get dirty looks when walking down a street of a un-friendly area.
Yet when I look at the English national Football Team, I see Men near the same age as me playing & doing the bussiness...Theo's Hat Trick...
Lewis in F1... :D
Yet if you look at Eastenders where is the major NON - White character...
: If it's set in East London that's now the most diverse place in the U.K..so where is the major character on par with ...Phil or Ian or Dot or Well Hard.So I have a major beef with the media but it's slowly getting better.
Things are good & bad..50 /50. Yet the thing that get's me is respect for each other & the enviorment. Litter, Dog Mess, Vandalism...
Quote by winchwench
Erm actually, I saw some Morris Dancing last week.....thats far less embarrassing than admitting I used to do it.
It was a phase, ok?
Thats a shame cos I reckon you'd pretty damn fine in a morris outfit.
well better than the 50 yro blokes you usually see dancing round the pole.
Sex God
Quote by swinger29
Erm actually, I saw some Morris Dancing last week.....thats far less embarrassing than admitting I used to do it.
It was a phase, ok?
Thats a shame cos I reckon you'd pretty damn fine in a morris outfit.
well better than the 50 yro blokes you usually see dancing round the pole.
Look far better out of it :rascal:
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