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What is original thinking?

I have wondered for years why some people make me listen and think, while others just seem to bore me.
What I find are people that speak with passion about their own experience no matter what the subject or topic make me listen to their point of view, even if I might disagree with it based on my own personal experiences, I still would listen as listening I could learn from their own experiences. What I find is if someone says another told them something or their say I was bought up to believe, I then think what they are saying isn’t original, as in some way others have had a lot of influence in their thinking.
So to me an original thinker is someone that can speak from the heart and what they say holds clarity.
Doesn’t original thinking happen when we rid our minds of others influences, judgements, and prejudices and we open our minds up to think for ourselves?
I just wondered others views.
I think it's thinking outside the box... not just accepting things for what they are or "because that's how it's done"... surely swingers in general are much closer to original thinking than people in vanilla relationships, as they have successfully bypassed the social/relationship constraints which have been imposed on us all. Certainly I think questioning everything is a good thing.
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I agree, but at least I tried. lol
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I think it's thinking outside the box... not just accepting things for what they are or "because that's how it's done"... surely swingers in general are much closer to original thinking than people in vanilla relationships, as they have successfully bypassed the social/relationship constraints which have been imposed on us all. Certainly I think questioning everything is a good thing.

I agree with you it is about thinking out side the box, but that for a lot is a scary place to be, as its the unknown.
What I find are people are happy to do it in certain aspects of their lives where risks are greater, but not in others where the risk is less greater.
The problem with thinking ouside the box is that its difficult to get back in afterwars........ rolleyes
I spend a lot of time thinking about the box wink
Original thinking in my view is someone who can look at something from a viewpoint that's never been seen before, or at least never been discussed. Someone like the first person to realise you can use cars for dogging.
Yeah thinking for yourself I suppose. Its rare I think because we are bombarded with pre-packaged opinions by the media and it takes quite an effort of will to stand back and think for ones self.
Not sure it is that rare... surely a cynical society will, by its very nature, promote more original thinking. I know the majority will go down the path of least resistance, but most of my friends and family will question things.
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Doesn’t original thinking happen when we rid our minds of others influences, judgements, and prejudices and we open our minds up to think for ourselves?
I just wondered others views.

I`d say that it`s not ridding our minds of other influences but, being able to see through other peoples agendas and forming our own view.
I believe it can be, we all are influenced from different parts of our lives, from upbringing schooling etc. Different emotions within us are part of others influences.
Take fear for instance why do we fear?
For example:
My Children fear spiders I have never shown them that fear but their Dad has, how does a 2 year old fear spiders when they haven’t had a bad experience from them?
A lot of our fears are unfounded, it is seeing the reaction on others face from early age and beyond.
Anger what makes us angry?
Anger comes from our expectations of others, how does that get there?
These are just a couple of examples but if you rid your mind of others influences you might be able to rationalise these things that makes us react in a different way.

It’s listening to opposing views and other people’s interpretations. It’s looking at things that are presented as facts by others, politicians for example, and then trying to find where they get their information and then seeing if the truth is available.
I agree it is not taking as fact what others say, unless we are presented with the proof, that we then can check out for ourselves.
It’s looking at things people say and remembering if they lied in the past, politicians for example, and then basing your thoughts on your previous experience to find solutions to problems.
Totally agree.
It`s being honest to yourself and others and not trying to manipulate their thoughts and opinions but giving them all the information they need to form a view for themselves.
Being honest with yourself I believe is paramount, if you can’t be honest with yourself you will be found out to be dishonest to others so will lose respect of others.
If you think you can manipulate thoughts of others then you are onto a losing battle, adults should be able to form their own opinions based on what has been said.

It`s encouraging people to think for themselves and not being surprised or annoyed when they come to a different conclusion to you. It`s working with opposing conclusions to acheive a common goal.
I totally agree this comes back to what I said above, it is peoples expectations of others that causes the annoyance and anger.
You can never reach a common goal unless you can accept others differences of opinion, this doesn’t always mean we don’t have the same common goal.

It`s saying what you think, despite the anger and aggression that this brings forth ....
Again I totally agree, although if the above was installed there shouldn’t be anger and aggression but acceptance that we don’t all think alike and form the same opinions but can still have the same common goal.
It`s being in a room with other people and somebody saying ....
"That`s a thought !! I`d never looked at it like that before" :thumbup:

When that happens to me I smile as that to me is a sign that I have kept an open mind, I find at these times a strong sense of contentment as my brain is active and open.
People that do that to me I look on as being exciting to be around. There are a few in this forum that have given me that feeling, I guess it is why I am still here.
All thinking has a base in others thinking. We build on what others have done before us, but sometimes we are able to make a leap.
We all know an apple falls to the ground, but it was one man who worked out why.
It is that leap that is orginal, nothing more.
Travis
"box, think, think, box!"
"jusslikethat...uhu!"
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"box, think, think, box!"
"jusslikethat...uhu!"
lp

I thought that was a spoon and a jar..... but I guess that would be too darned original. ;-)
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"box, think, think, box!"
"jusslikethat...uhu!"
lp

I thought that was a spoon and a jar..... but I guess that would be too darned original. ;-)
"bottle-glass"
though H&S prevents a true demonstration in this litiginous climate.
(I had adult supervision)
lp
Its a good subject.
But Minx you seem to confuse talking with thinking. Being able to talk with passion is nothing to do with being able to think.
Original thinking involves thinking in a conter intutuive way. That is not accepting common wisdom without questioning it first. Original thinkers do not take the word of somebody else unless they have considered the wisdom of the idea first.
I think original thinking comes from learning that although we are in the show we dont run the show,in my experience when i tried running the show i fell down flat on my face now i just sit back and enjoy the ride.
Doesn't modern society spurn original thought and make every effort to divert us away from it through education and conditioning?
dunno Just a thought. ;-)
I don't think society has ever liked original thought. It is seen as dangerous. It will uppset the status quo (not Francis Rossi et al.) Therefore the powers they be don't want people to think for themselves.
For instance these people have all being rediculed in the past for what they thought.
Einstein
Galileo
Columbus
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I don't think society has ever liked original thought. It is seen as dangerous. It will uppset the status quo (not Francis Rossi et al.) Therefore the powers they be don't want people to think for themselves.
For instance these people have all being rediculed in the past for what they thought.
Einstein
Galileo
Columbus

And Hitler!
*vaguely recalls a scene in the X-files where people talk about extraordinary men*
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Doesn't modern society spurn original thought and make every effort to divert us away from it through education and conditioning?
dunno Just a thought. ;-)

Absolutely. The concept of cultural hegenomy is an interesting one. :thumbup:
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Doesn't modern society spurn original thought and make every effort to divert us away from it through education and conditioning?
dunno Just a thought. ;-)

Absolutely. The concept of cultural hegenomy is an interesting one. :thumbup:
Can I have this in little words please so that I can understand. I am mister thicky, thick-thick
It's when neighbours fight over a leylandii lol
Roight, simply put, it's a sociological theory/concept mainly dealing with leadership of the masses. However, it also theorises that we're "farmed" into a certain position in our culture, and that our edukashon system is tailored to that cause, rather than personal choice. And...there's the theory that we're fed stuff from the moment we're born to make us want to consume, and aspire to be ever greater consumers in order to keep the economy ticking over.
If I've got the wrong word, I'm gonna look such a tit. rolleyes