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What the f**k is disbenefit....

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Watching, sadly, Question time tonight I have again been made acutely aware of my backwardness when it comes down to my understanding of our language.
I heard the government guy, whats his name, say about the benefit of immigrant workers to the country and of there being some, which is cool. He then went on blah de blah as they do, to say the 'disbenefit' Ok where the heck do you need that word eh? why not use words that are in bloody existence already for heavens sake.
Perhaps he was playing Commons bingo????
P&H
I know what you mean - they use words like that and "downsizing" ffs, just to make things sound less bad. I hate that.
But to be honest, disbenefit is no more unreasonable than disadvantage, disrespect. It's just that we don't use it. I just hate why they use it.
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I know what you mean - they use words like that and "downsizing" ffs, just to make things sound less bad. I hate that.
But to be honest, disbenefit is no more unreasonable than disadvantage, disrespect. It's just that we don't use it. I just hate why they use it.


It is, more unreasonable though foxy. Disadvantage or disrespect are real words. The word disbenefit is not, it 'doesn't exist, it has no meaning. Why not use 'of less benefit' or 'of no benfit' I agree with you as to words such as downsizing though, it has a sort of 'verbal damage limitation' effect to it.
On reading this bit again. Foxy you are right with your post. I apologise for the gibberish in green under it lol
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Did you never listen to John Prestcot speak .....He just made up words as he went along !!
He was Deputy Prime Minister !!! He was in charge of the country when Blair was away !!
People still tick the boxes and vote because they recognise the name !

ooooohhhhhh what was the name of that film???
S'ok I remembered now, it was The Distinguished Gentleman' with Eddie Murphy which was based on that exact premise.
Talking of the weird n wonderful English language
why do some words have no opposite......if i am pissed off, It can be said Im DISGRUNTLED, so therefore, if I am happy....amd I GRUNTLED dunno
If shameless is having no shame, and the opposite is shameful .... being full of shame,
and toothless is having no teeth, them wahts the opposite of toothless following that rule lol :lol:
others without opposites...unkempt, uncouth, disconsolate, unruly and ageless.
It tickles me when people make words up, or use the wrong word, especially people we expect to be intelligent, the thing with polititians is that they don't need any formal qualifications .
Pet hate at the moment is when they I see "should of " when it ought to be "should have".
I dont know what the world is coming to , I really dont!!!
If he's talking dis and dat it must be Ali G. wink
If you are very clever are you tarded as if you are not very bright you could be classed as retarded?
Maybe he means Dis benefit instead of Dat benefit rolleyes
Perhaps he took lessons from Hilary Clinton...remember she "mis-spoke" about the incident in Bosnia.
In other words she lied, but could not use that word.
John
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It is, more unreasonable though foxy. Disadvantage or disrespect are real words. The word disbenefit is not, it 'doesn't exist, it has no meaning. Why not use 'of less benefit' or 'of no benfit' I agree with you as to words such as downsizing though, it has a sort of 'verbal damage limitation' effect to it.

As it's in both the Oxford and Chambers dictionaries I think it's clear that it does exist. Just because a word isn't often used, or because you haven't heard it before, doesn't mean it isn't a valid word! smile
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Pet hate at the moment is when they I see "should of " when it ought to be "should have".
I dont know what the world is coming to , I really dont!!!

Agree 100% We, I'd horsewhip the blighters! Sets my teeth on edge does 'should of'! lol
When posting on a thread like this, do you find yourself checking and re-checking all your spelling and grammar? lol
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others without opposites...unkempt, uncouth, disconsolate, unruly and ageless.

That reminds me of that wonderful internet classic: "How I met my wife". For those who don't know it.......
How I Met My Wife
It had been a rough day, so when I walked into the party I was very chalant, despite my efforts to appear gruntled and consolate.
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I wanted desperately to meet her, but I knew I'd have to make bones about it since I was travelling cognito. Beknownst to me, the hostess, whom I could see both hide and hair of, was very proper, so it would be skin off my nose if anything bad happened. And even though I had only swerving loyalty to her, my manners couldn't be peccable. Only toward and heard-of behavior would do.
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So I decided not to risk it. But then, all at once, for some apparent reason, she looked in my direction and smiled in a way that I could make heads and tails of.
I was plussed. It was concerting to see that she was communicado, and it nerved me that she was interested in a pareil like me, sight seen. Normally, I had a domitable spirit, but, being corrigible, I felt capacitated---as if this were something I was great shakes at---and forgot that I had succeeded in situations like this only a told number of times. So, after a terminable delay, I acted with mitigated gall and made my way through the ruly crowd with strong givings.
Nevertheless, since this was all new hat to me and I had no time to prepare a promptu speech, I was petuous. Wanting to make only called-for remarks, I started talking about the hors d'oeuvres, trying to abuse her of the notion that I was sipid, and perhaps even bunk a few myths about myself.
She responded well, and I was mayed that she considered me a savory character who was up to some good. She told me who she was. "What a perfect nomer," I said, advertently. The conversation became more and more choate, and we spoke at length to much avail. But I was defatigable, so I had to leave at a godly hour. I asked if she wanted to come with me. To my delight, she was committal. We left the party together and have been together ever since. I have given her my love, and she has requited it.
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That reminds me of that wonderful internet classic: "How I met my wife". For those who don't know it.......

Absolutely brilliant! Thanks so much for that. lol
Couth is a proper word, and so is -
No, no - I'm going with FB.
FB! Please wait for me bolt
i make up words all the time granted they is not posh but i do not have a degree in posh words or posh speaking nor do i have to waffle the voters brains to get them on my side
Dis Dirty Girty
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It is, more unreasonable though foxy. Disadvantage or disrespect are real words. The word disbenefit is not, it 'doesn't exist, it has no meaning. Why not use 'of less benefit' or 'of no benfit' I agree with you as to words such as downsizing though, it has a sort of 'verbal damage limitation' effect to it.

As it's in both the Oxford and Chambers dictionaries I think it's clear that it does exist. Just because a word isn't often used, or because you haven't heard it before, doesn't mean it isn't a valid word! smile
Well you live and learn. I looked up 'disbenefit' through and found no joy. I guess when it comes to down to it, you can't argue the OED and Chambers. Thanks for pointing out my error. I do feel a little contrite. I really shouldn't jump to conclusions so quickly.
could stil have been a lazy politician`s made up word,that`s just recently been added to the dictionary.
that`s how language changes over time
Dis-benefit is a term that is often used in the study of policy and political sciences and it is a method which is used to measure the counter-benefits of policy changes. For example, introduction of the 'right to Buy' for council tenants had the 'dis-benefit' or unexpected consequence, of increasing mortgage interest rates and impacted on the popularity of the private housing market.
Sorry Lost, I will take my serious head off now and stick the silly one back on again lol
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Well you live and learn. I looked up 'disbenefit' through and found no joy. I guess when it comes to down to it, you can't argue the OED and Chambers. Thanks for pointing out my error. I do feel a little contrite. I really shouldn't jump to conclusions so quickly.

As an amateur philologist and professional pedant I could hardly resist lol It's good to learn new words though, even if you know you'd never use them biggrin
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When posting on a thread like this, do you find yourself checking and re-checking all your spelling and grammar? lol

Nahhh smile
I remember when some of the newer terms that came into my work like Sustainability, de-centralisation etc someone in the community wrote a really funny dictionary of termonoligy for all the new words that was *in* at the time...in a bid to de-jargonise (is that a word? Havent checked an cant be bothered:lol:)