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When does Bi-Curious become Bi-Sexual?

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Forum Virgin
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I've seen a few profiles stating "Bi-Curious" where the female, or male have had experiences of same sex interactions, but they don't pass themselves off as "Bi-Sexual"

So exactly when does Bi-Curious become Bi-Sexual?

Sexlightened
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No idea, I've (Will) got bi curious listed as I'm not bisexual but engage in bisex as part of cuckolding. On the other hand Sammy has it listed as she's sexually attracted to women (she spends more time looking at women's pictures on here than I do! Lol)  but has been too nervous to act on it and has stuck to hetrosexual relationships and  until now had been too embarrassed to say how she felt or try. 

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I suppose it's down to interpretation, my thinking is that Bi-Curious is wanting to indulge & Bi-Curious is having indulged.

Then again with the amount of new sexual orientations & genderisms appearing these days I'll be completely wrong & likely get pelters for my thinking Ha-Ha. 


Sexlightened
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We take the "bisexual" title literally as "sexually attracted to individuals from "both" sexes. We feel "Bicuriosity" is somewhat less clear so we both interpret it differently. I'd say I wasn't bisexual at all but there isn't a term we know of to describe what I am so... Sam on the other hand knows she is sexually attracted to women but hasn't yet acted on it. So she is bisexual but she's still at the curious stage of seeing how far shed enjoy sex with a female and her role in such an act. She seems to always get the easy way out ?

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Never thought it of that way, with an ex of mine we used to meet up with another couple, me & the other fella used to touch each other, wank each other off in front of the ladies or feed each other into the women, but I'd have never thought of that as being curious or Bi-Sexual, just going with the flow, I have given thought to sucking or fucking another fella but again wouldn't have thought it has curious or Bi-Sexual, though I'm sure it would fall into the "Curious" category if you were to label it. 

Warming the Bed
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For me it is because I have no romantic interest in men I don't see myself as fully bisexual. Bicurious seems to fit me best on here. On another side I describe myself as hetroflexible which I think sounds quite cool.

Warming the Bed
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I (pho) was always bi curious until one night at a club. Now I'm fully bi. 

Warming the Bed
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I have no hestition putting a cock in my mouth wet xx

Warming the Bed
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Is penetration the difference?  I've sucked a few guys of in threesomes and still wouldn't consider myself bi until I met a guy solo I guess.

Forum Virgin
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Curiosity doesn't make anything, yet. It 'starts up' possible decision making and here we are ;) aren't we?

If you want it, go for it, keeping whole event secret. People love labels on others. Nobody knows, nobody humiliates you. 

It's social matter, for local people. 

Freedom, peace and a lot of sex, Community! 

Forum Virgin
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I think Will (Snuffles) described how I thought of it within the constraints on here.  Interestingly the app Feeld has 'heteroflexible' as an option.  I think that's good for saying what you aren't simply straight.

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If you indulge in same sex contact more than once, you are past the curious stage and very likely bisexual. Bi-curious can only describe those who have thought about same sex contact - mutual masturbation, oral and/or anal sex - and are possibly attracted to the idea without actually carrying it through to a conclusion.  Without wanting to point the finger or shame anyone, it seems that a lot of guys (not so much women) are anxious to deny their bisexuality for reasons of manhood.  It took me nearly 40 years to finally accept my bisexuality and stop worrying that I was some kind of freak - the attitudes of people today are much more accepting than they once were (Daily Mail readers excepted !).

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Bisexuality is on a spectrum, having bisexual on your profile can mean people assume that you meet single guys and have anal sex. I am at the straighter end of the spectrum (could change with the right couple lol), I don't fancy men or meet single men, but do enjoy mmf where everyone kisses and sick each other.

Technically by definition, I am bisexual, but the label does not work for me.

Have fun everyone xx


Warming the Bed
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well my view would be that you are bi curious until such time as you have partaken in bisexual activity. As a guy that could be up to the point when you either fuck someone or they fuck you.

After that and you enjoy it you are bisexual. 

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Surely if you have thoughts about sex with a person of the same sex, that makes you gay curious. I personally hate the term bi-curious, its like so called hetro men have coined a term to differentiate themselves from gay men. Sorry two men together are having gay sex. 

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But surely if you have "gay" sex once it doesn't make you gay if you still fancy the opposite sex?  That's where the "bi" comes in.  dunno.gif

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We are new here so sorry for diving right in on one of the biggest burning issues of modern life and I am going to write a long reply this time, just as it's a pet subject of mine and I'm bored icon_smile.gif Feel free to skip to the tl/dr bit if you can't be bothered to read it all.

(Incidentally, we have started a group for anyone wanting to explore their bi side a bit more, so go check that out if it's of interest, only just started but from tiny acorns etc....)

I guess everyone has their own slant on the definition, so I'll give *my* view but remember I'm not saying this is the same for everyone. [I'll mainly be referring to bi-males below, as we all know that bi-female play has become largely normalised on the scene and appears to carry none of the baggage or mental anguish although I'm sure that's not actually true in reality!]

1. I believe a vast majority of people are on the bisexual spectrum somewhere. Certainly I think a very high percentage of people on the swinging scene are (just from observation over the years) however if you asked people to self classify it would look instead like a tiny percentage. It's a hangover from swinging being synonymous with the painfully heterosexual pastime of "wife swapping" I think. In reality the scene is very different now, with varied participants - from the wife-swappers of yore, to soft play, cuckold, bdsm and all types of fetish and kink in between. And yet despite this shift in acceptance, so many think that being really honest about what they like will severely limit their play with others who are 'openly anti bi' or perceived to hold homophobic views as they will be seen by these individual as gay and ostracised. Some others hold those prejudices themselves and self-stigmatise without the help of anyone else. Others worry about their partners perception and like to introduce the concept gently... End result - most people hide or play down their actual preferences but for a multitude of reasons. 

2. We are big advocates of just being honest on profiles. Elsewhere, we are inundated with guys who are listed as straight but are happy to shag us both, to the point where we start to wonder if they are so brazen about being dishonest around their sexuality, what other things are said that may not be quite true? And is claiming to be bi just a ruse to get access to the female?....as a result when we meet people outside the club environment (and therefore can 'pre vet' possible meets), we now have a policy of not meeting anyone knowingly listed as straight, and that can include couples too. A few guys have challenged us and said  it's because they don't want to alienate some women who don't like bi-guys, but I take the view that if someone is bigoted enough to 'not like bi guys' then they are not someone I'd want to have sex with anyway so it can actually be a good filter. Plus, surely the purpose of a profile is to get to have sex with people who are really in tune with you so it can be a mind blowing experience? Pretending you are not into something you really do want can only possibly lead to a higher percentage of less satisfactory meets over time, so it seems counter intuitive to me. 

3. What does 'Bi-Curious' mean? I'd see it as meaning you are open to trying same-sex play but are not sure if it's something you will actively seek out long-term. Now it may take a few experiences to really solidify your view, after all playing with different people can give very different experiences, so why decide after the first time? But I'd say anything much more than 3 or 4 times will be stretching the 'curious' definition a bit! In fact I sometimes find a profile with someone who is clinging onto the 'bi-curious' status despite many bi meets as a bit of a turn-off, as it starts to make you wonder why they don't want to admit it, and if *they* have a problem with bi guys/gals themselves or are trying to be all things to everyone just to improve their hit-rate!

4. There IS a distinction between 'real life' and 'swinging scene' which broadly relates to how much the bisexuality relates to physical or sexual attraction and can confuse some. Take me (male) for example - I walk down the street on a normal day and I barely register the existence of males, let along any that are supposed to be attractive. But I would find the opposite with women - I'd be aroused at curves, cleavage, showing leg, clothes, hair..... Not that I ever want another relationship in my life, but if I were forced at gunpoint, It would be with a female - I have a strong physical and emotional attraction to the opposite sex, which is why if I had to define myself in a vanilla 'real world' setting, I would say 'straight'. Sexually however, it's a different ball game. When things are getting hot and heavy then I find the idea of playing with a male - especially with women present - a huge turn on. I like the idea of not having restrictions or places that are off-limits, where everyone can play with eveyone else and yes, in a sexual setting I find a cock stupidly arousing, and as for anal - well I shattered that particular taboo more years ago than I care to remember! Sexually, from a play perspective I'd be hard pushed to choose a preference - I'm clearly bisexual and get turned on playing with both sexes equally. I only mention this as I suspect a lot of guys have the same internal dilemma of trying to categorise themselves for ALL situations, rather than accepting that what turns you on in a purely sexual setting may be different to what you gravitate towards in the rest of your life and they end up in some half-way house 'bi curious' category as a result.

5. We prefer to be open about being fully bi, as we have more chance of meeting the kind of people we are ideally looking for, and can scare some of the more ignorant people away. Bottom line though, is that for us 'bisexual' as a label is not telling the whole story, as in reality we would probably prefer to just be thought of as 'hedonists' - we are open minded to try new things and if it feels good, we keep going and if it doesn't we don't. There will be times when I'm really into the MF play side of things and really don't fancy any bi-play at all and times when I am so horny and I crave a good hard pounding myself or fancy losing myself for a while with our playmates regardless of gender. If it feels good, we do it - regardless of labels or anything else. We've had some amazing experiences and met some amazing people over the years, so have never personally found being 'bisexual' as a handicap and in many cases the openness improved meets. Some of our best and loveliest friends on the scene are straight, and some are the filthiest, most deviant bisexual pleasure-seekers on the planet. Variety is the spice of life, as they say! At the end of the day though 'Bi Curious' is not an orientation in itself - it's an indication of a direction you may be heading, and the ultimate destination should still be 'Straight' or 'Bisexual' eventually (and lets be honest, in most cases it will be bisexual).

So, If you made it this far, thanks for hanging in there....I mostly write one liners, honest!

too long;didn't read 

PEOPLE LIE and for a multitude of reasons, but they would probably have more fulfilling and mind blowing time if they didn't. Oh, and I'll call BS on any bi 'curious' guy who has entertained a cock on more than a handful of occasions icon_smile.gif


Forum Virgin
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Oh, and for those that worry that claiming bisexual means they will be open for full anal assault from the nearest moustached guy dressed in assless-chaps, remember that even within the bi/gay world there are different roles (top, bottom, versatile) as well as more restrictive descriptions such as 'Orally Bi'. There's no harm is listing as bisexual but in the profile text say that it's limited to the odd hand-job or 'sword-fight' but no more smile

'Heteroflexible' sounds cool but surely it's meaningless. A bi guy doesn't HAVE to play with other guys - in fact, he may never play with any. If by saying '`Heteroflexible' we mean - can step outside the hetero constraint occasionally for a bit of cock, then it's just bisexual by another name, surely. If it means they play straight but are not bothered if there is some accidental touching of skin with another male during the fun, they are still 'straight' I'd say. But I suppose it does make the person describing themselves as such, an air of mystery and kinkiness, so there may be some mileage for some to use it :)

As an aside - Oddly, you never hear of gay guys referring to themselves as 'bi-curious' despite the term applying equally to someone suddenly wondering what banging a chick would be like. 

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Oh, and for those that worry that claiming bisexual means they will be open for full anal assault from the nearest moustached guy dressed in assless-chaps, remember that even within the bi/gay world there are different roles (top, bottom, versatile) as well as more restrictive descriptions such as 'Orally Bi'. There's no harm is listing as bisexual but in the profile text say that it's limited to the odd hand-job or 'sword-fight' but no more smile
'Heteroflexible' sounds cool but surely it's meaningless. A bi guy doesn't HAVE to play with other guys - in fact, he may never play with any. If by saying '`Heteroflexible' we mean - can step outside the hetero constraint occasionally for a bit of cock, then it's just bisexual by another name, surely. If it means they play straight but are not bothered if there is some accidental touching of skin with another male during the fun, they are still 'straight' I'd say. But I suppose it does make the person describing themselves as such, an air of mystery and kinkiness, so there may be some mileage for some to use it :)
As an aside - Oddly, you never hear of gay guys referring to themselves as 'bi-curious' despite the term applying equally to someone suddenly wondering what banging a chick would be like. 

Will: I know gay guys that identify as bi curious 😛. 


And I think the honesty thing can go a little far in the way you describe. I read your post as it was a unique perspective on a topic that can be quite provocative. I can't say the same about couples or single female profiles let alone single guys, if they had decided to go into that level of detail about everything that's relevant to swinging id have got bored after the first paragraph and moved on. The same would be true if it were in a message.

But we like socials, where it could be a point of discussion, I certainly wouldn't hold something like wrongly classifying one's self against someone especially over a topic few can agree on anyway. 


We could revert to the dictionary, in which case your own interpretation doesn't fit very well (and neither would my own) 


There will always be the fake bi guys that want to meet the female half of a couple, we get mail often like that, when they realise I'm not into guys really (despite being listed as bi curious) we normally get a "I've not actually played with guys either or thought about it until I saw your profile and thought you were both hot" (that's from yesterday 😂) 

As you said, swinging has a multitude of kinks and variations on each, I'm just Inn the forum post to get different perspectives, not hold differences of opinion against anyone.




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we are new to this but we have said exactly the same thing,why put straight and then put seeking bi male and bi female?????? Put what you are and what you are looking are both bicurious until we have tried it a few times and like it and want more of the same.

Master of Sex
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Some excellent contributions that are well worth reading. Part of the problem is our need to fit labels to ourselves and others and then not having clear meanings to those labels. What we do from month to month is fluid anyway. I don't really want to pick an ill fitting label to myself. I fall in love with women not men. I want to kiss, cuddle and cherish one but not the other. So I am not gay. But a cock makes a fine toy and lust is lust and having and giving a sexual response is a hot affair. Saying I am bisexual may imply I fall in love with men equally which I don't. Saying I am bi curious is also inaccurate as I have wanked and sucked cocks on occasion. By all means devise a label for it but the label is not important. I do notice a huge amount of denial of male interest in cock but I guess there are many reasons for that.

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I've got bi-curious listed on my profile and here is my reasoning. 

I have had a fair few ffm over the years and I'm really wanting to do that again in the future. I am sexually attracted to women however I've never been in a relationship with a woman so I decided to list bi-curious and not bisexual. I mean never say never right? For now though I thought bi-curious described me more accurately x

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I like the look of a big cock, quite like mutual masturbation, (very very rare unfortunately), but I don't want to kiss it, or him, and have no interest in knowing his name or exchanging phone numbers.  I think I am and always have been rather envious of a big one and there are certain learned papers suggesting this is a common feature of a changing room, where teams will, apparently, elevate the big guy to hero status, I get that. I obviously have some element of bisexuality but I do not think of myself in those terms, I'm not curious to go further.  Perhaps I'm just hetero+twisted, happy with that.

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we’re down as Bi curious, but have had more than three experiences, so we don’t know really!!

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we’re down as Bi curious, but have had more than three experiences, so we don’t know really!!

 You know you love it! 😘

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Some very sensible contributions here. I agree that guys who put ‘straight’ on their profile but also indicate they’re looking for men/TVs etc is a bit weird. Also to me bicurious means thinking about it but never tried. But nothing is black or white. I guess there’s a twilight zone where you’ve tried but still not sure but if you’ve crossed the threshold and enjoyed it you have to be bi or gay. I do also understand from my own journey that guilt and denial makes it a lot more complex than that.

Warming the Bed
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well I will suck a cut cock and love to lick and suck on a set of shaven balls but won’t take it up the arse or kiss a man and am not attracted to men, I just enjoy that part of sex I will also let anyone who asks suck my cock and balls etc I will also fuck any female that opens her legs to me any age or colour more so if Indian or pregnant so what does that make me ? A proper deviant I suppose 

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I think people conflate sexual acts and sexuality. Sexual pleasure and attraction are not always the same. People can call themselves what they please, but it doesn't help if everyone needs to have a name for where ever they are in the complicated mix of things. 

Identity matters to many, often as a reaction to a threatening and biggotted society. If society treated all equally, it would only matter when discussing a sexual encounter with someone you wanted to do it with.