Who pays?

21 Dec 2008

Quote by Dave__Notts
I mentioned 33% and 50% earlier on.
This is because if we use a hotel room with 2 couples and the room costs £40 then it is £20 per couple or £10 per person. Now if we played with a single person the cost would be split between 3 so that would be £13:33 each or £26:66 for the couple. So it would cost the couple more to play with a single than with a couple in theory.
Is this right.......or should the couple be classed as one and the single be classed as one, hence splitting the bill 50/50.
Dave_Notts
I am starting to question my own opinion on this now

Dave you got GCSE maths didn't you? well done!
Sam xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

21 Dec 2008

I'd just go halves with the couple. Who'd have thought this would generate so much debate? surprised

21 Dec 2008

Quote by Lucyandmike7
John.....a pocketful of your change is not enough!
Those Euros are worthless now!!!!

How true ......... in just over a week, the exchange rate dropped from to euros to the pound! :shock:

21 Dec 2008

Sorry Kenty I have to disagree with this...
Why does a hotel seem seedy? The first hotel we had a meet in was a lovely hotel and the bed could have slept 4 people with no problems. The room was amazing with a fab view absolutely nothing seedy about it.
We had a meal beforehand with the lady concerned partly because it was a mealtime and partly to break the ice. The whole thing was enjoyable and fun and we all paid our way. We were not doing her a favour and she was not doing us one so why should any of us pay for the other?
IF we did though decide to have a meal, Mrs 777 would not pay, so the bill would be shared between the two guys. A hotel room I would never pay for. As a couple we hold most of the cards, tough but true.
I don't understand this at all. Why would Mrs 777 not pay? and why would you not pay for a hotel? Why would you expect someone else to pay for this for you both if all 3 of you were going to get enjoyment?
If the guy does not want to play by our rules, then we do not play...funnily enough we have never found a guy yet, who does not want to play by our rules.....funny that.
and this I find amazing :shock: So much so that I don't actually believe you mean it??? If you do mean it and I was a guy who was seriously considering getting together with you two, this would stop me dead in my tracks. It says that you have no respect or consideration for me as a person and feel that I am only good enough to have sex with you if I pay first :shock:

21 Dec 2008

Quote by Firelizard
Sorry Kenty I have to disagree with this...
Why does a hotel seem seedy? The first hotel we had a meet in was a lovely hotel and the bed could have slept 4 people with no problems. The room was amazing with a fab view absolutely nothing seedy about it.
We had a meal beforehand with the lady concerned partly because it was a mealtime and partly to break the ice. The whole thing was enjoyable and fun and we all paid our way. We were not doing her a favour and she was not doing us one so why should any of us pay for the other?
IF we did though decide to have a meal, Mrs 777 would not pay, so the bill would be shared between the two guys. A hotel room I would never pay for. As a couple we hold most of the cards, tough but true.
I don't understand this at all. Why would Mrs 777 not pay? and why would you not pay for a hotel? Why would you expect someone else to pay for this for you both if all 3 of you were going to get enjoyment?
If the guy does not want to play by our rules, then we do not play...funnily enough we have never found a guy yet, who does not want to play by our rules.....funny that.
and this I find amazing :shock: So much so that I don't actually believe you mean it??? If you do mean it and I was a guy who was seriously considering getting together with you two, this would stop me dead in my tracks. It says that you have no respect or consideration for me as a person and feel that I am only good enough to have sex with you if I pay first :shock:

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21 Dec 2008

Quote by kentswingers777
And I am not sure he was joking!!!!!!!

Was I? I have never been in that situation yet. lol

For us a hotel would seem a bit seedy, and would not go for a meal, as we want a guy for a shag, not too discuss things over a meal. Sounds a tad hard, but a meal or a hotel would not be for us.
IF we did though decide to have a meal, Mrs 777 would not pay, so the bill would be shared between the two guys. A hotel room I would never pay for. As a couple we hold most of the cards, tough but true.
If the guy does not want to play by our rules, then we do not play...funnily enough we have never found a guy yet, who does not want to play by our rules.....funny that. :lol:
Just out of interest... what would your thoughts be if the single was female rather than male?

21 Dec 2008

I must admit, I am also suprised this has generated so many comments. We have discussed it at length, and also with some single guys, and thought that there would be a more definative protocol, but clearly that is not the case.
I accept, and have indeed already discussed the fact, that leaving a single guy to pay does smack a little of pimping your wife out.
On the other hand, (and this is the controversial bit), there is a part of me that wants to go with the "supply and demand" basis. Where we as a couple gets plenty of invites, we know that single guys do not, so it could be argued that they should be willing to pay up. This however sounds unfair, but cant deny it has'nt crossed my mind.
I think the best thing as some have already suggested is to establish the arrangement before the meet, its just that when you are having sexy or flirty chats, it all seems a bit clinical.
Our experience has been however that while some are great and willing to pay up, a lot of guys are slow to offer to pay their way.
Mike

21 Dec 2008

I have NEVER had an issue with this - I'm a single gal and I meet single guys.
All of the guys I have met have offered to pay at least half of any expenses the meet might incur.
Single guys get a lot of flak, but to imply that most are tight is, in my experience, simply not true.
I think this is exactly like vanilla stuff - you go out with mates to have a mutually enjoyable night, you share costs. You go out to have a mutually enjoyable swinging meet, you all share costs.
Honestly, where is the difference? dunno

21 Dec 2008

When we have met guys we have either met at our place or theirs so costs have never been an issue.
We have generally met with the same guys so we have just alternated our place or theirs.

21 Dec 2008

Quote by Lucyandmike7
I must admit, I am also suprised this has generated so many comments. We have discussed it at length, and also with some other single guys, and thought that there would be a more definative protocol, but clearly that is not the case.
I accept, and have indeed already discussed the fact, that leaving a single guy to pay does smack a little of pimping your wife out.
On the other hand, (and this is the controversial bit), there is a part of me that wants to go with the "supply and demand" basis. Where we as a couple gets plenty of invites, we know that single guys do not, so it could be argued that they should be willing to pay up. This however sounds unfair, but cant deny it has'nt crossed my mind.
I think the best thing as some have already suggested is to establish the arrangement before the meet, its just that when you are having sexy or flirty chats, it all seems a bit clinical.
Our experience has been however that while some are great and willing to pay up, a lot of guys are slow to offer to pay their way.
Mike

That implies that you're doing the guy a favour, it's a selfless act. It's a mutually beneficial arrangement so everybody contributes surely?
Once you start talking about "supply and demand" you're straying into the subject of economics and market forces - not something I'd like to apply to my sex life that's for damn sure.
If somebody wanted to start haggling with me over this kind of stuff I'd tell them to sod off, no-one wants to shag a tight-arse. Hang on, let me rephrase that lol

21 Dec 2008

Quote by Lone_swordsman
I must admit, I am also suprised this has generated so many comments. We have discussed it at length, and also with some other single guys, and thought that there would be a more definative protocol, but clearly that is not the case.
I accept, and have indeed already discussed the fact, that leaving a single guy to pay does smack a little of pimping your wife out.
On the other hand, (and this is the controversial bit), there is a part of me that wants to go with the "supply and demand" basis. Where we as a couple gets plenty of invites, we know that single guys do not, so it could be argued that they should be willing to pay up. This however sounds unfair, but cant deny it has'nt crossed my mind.
I think the best thing as some have already suggested is to establish the arrangement before the meet, its just that when you are having sexy or flirty chats, it all seems a bit clinical.
Our experience has been however that while some are great and willing to pay up, a lot of guys are slow to offer to pay their way.
Mike

That implies that you're doing the guy a favour, it's a selfless act. It's a mutually beneficial arrangement so everybody contributes surely?
Once you start talking about "supply and demand" you're straying into the subject of economics and market forces - not something I'd like to apply to my sex life that's for damn sure.
If somebody wanted to start haggling with me over this kind of stuff I'd tell them to sod off, no-one wants to shag a tight-arse. Hang on, let me rephrase that lol

I totally agree !!
LUCYS post!!!
Stayed out of this for as long as I could.....Mike and I have different opinions on this....but then I surpose its a he always seem to be left footing all the bill!! Wish our kids had left home, then it would not be an issue!

21 Dec 2008

me and worlass meet people together. With couples we have gone halves. With single men, to be honest we generally pay for it all.
One single guy we travelled all of the way to his city, 150 miles away, we paid for the hotel (5*) and paid for the room service etc etc.
Another chap travelled all of the way to us from London and we paid the hotel and the room service etc.
To be honest if they were a shit lay I would probably have taken the money they both offered for their third of the bill. (I AM joking) But, believe me, worlass and I tend to use them until they can't walk. lol

It is rare that we meet people as a couple (she is the problem -honestly! I am sooooooo easy going rolleyes

)
If I meet people on my own then I would go halves if I was meeting a single person or thirds if I was meeting a couple. That said I have paid for everything before. I can't think that I have ever let anyone else pay for everything tho'.
I don't do the whole dinner thing. Worlass likes that sort of thing as she doesn't really go on gut instinct and if we do that then she pays our share. (yeah, harsh I know)
Think that covers it... now, who wants a shag ?

21 Dec 2008

I pay my share. Always.
If I can't afford to go out, I don't go.
I like to treat my friends sometimes when I'm flush, that's just who I am. I wouldn't think twice about dragging a skint mate along to something and paying their way. I'd drag my heels if the shoe were on the other foot though. Double standards... absolutely. I'm well aware of that. wink

If I go out in a crowd for dinner then we all pay our share. I was out for lunch today. There were five of us. We all paid equally. I didn't have wine and sometimes that bugs me but not very often cause I'm not all that interested in squabbling over a couple of quid here and there and more often than not a soft drink costs just the same as an alcoholic one.
Anyway... I digress... in my experience, I generally don't do one offs so in more long term swinging things I've always just gone with the flow. It's worked out pretty fairly I would say and I've never really had issue in a couple situation over who's paying for what.
On a one to one basis I would assume (rightly or wrongly) that hotel bills would be split down the middle and to me that doesn't really need discussion. It goes without saying in my opinion. :mrgreen:
It has never and would never cross my mind that someone else should pay because I'm doing them a favour. :shock: Regardless of my status, a threesome is a threesome and there are three people involved. Making the third person pay because they should be honoured to be there is an absolute disgrace. Supply and demand?! WTF? That's just plain rude and I'm afraid would completely cloud my judgement on playing with anyone. The thought of it actually coming down to that makes my skin crawl. confused

21 Dec 2008

I think people are over analysing 777's post. I can see that if a guy asked for a meet and stated that he was happy to pay for a hotel then hey. And, 777 has said that it is something that has not been a part of their swinging up to press so is only speculation
There have been a few times when we have been asked if we'd meet in a hotel at the instigators expense. only met twice ever in hotels first as I mentioned earlier we payed for and the second - two of us couples each had our own rooms in the hotel anyway.
damn I forgot the other two meets in hotels - Oh well that don't count as here was 9 of us split the cost of the room - less than the cost petrol getting there and the birthday cake was a sweet touch biggrin

21 Dec 2008

Quote by splendid_
me and worlass meet people together. With couples we have gone halves. With single men, to be honest we generally pay for it all.
One single guy we travelled all of the way to his city, 150 miles away, we paid for the hotel (5*) and paid for the room service etc etc.
Another chap travelled all of the way to us from London and we paid the hotel and the room service etc.
To be honest if they were a shit lay I would probably have taken the money they both offered for their third of the bill. (I AM joking) But, believe me, worlass and I tend to use them until they can't walk.
It is rare that we meet people as a couple (she is the problem -honestly! I am sooooooo easy going )
If I meet people on my own then I would go halves if I was meeting a single person or thirds if I was meeting a couple. That said I have paid for everything before. I can't think that I have ever let anyone else pay for everything tho'.
I don't do the whole dinner thing. Worlass likes that sort of thing as she doesn't really go on gut instinct and if we do that then she pays our share. (yeah, harsh I know)
Think that covers it... now, who wants a shag ?

Me please!!!
Want to finish that with ....if your paying....but I may get misunderstood!!! biggrin

Oh...I just did!! smile

Lucys post.

21 Dec 2008

I'm rich so its not an issue.......... rolleyes

21 Dec 2008

Quote by markz
I'm rich so its not an issue..........

you don't meet. That is why it isn't an issue.

21 Dec 2008

Quote by markz
I'm rich so its not an issue..........

Like anyone ever wants to meet you! :roll:

21 Dec 2008

Quote by essex34m
And I am not sure he was joking!!!!!!!

Was I? I have never been in that situation yet. lol

For us a hotel would seem a bit seedy, and would not go for a meal, as we want a guy for a shag, not too discuss things over a meal. Sounds a tad hard, but a meal or a hotel would not be for us.
IF we did though decide to have a meal, Mrs 777 would not pay, so the bill would be shared between the two guys. A hotel room I would never pay for. As a couple we hold most of the cards, tough but true.
If the guy does not want to play by our rules, then we do not play...funnily enough we have never found a guy yet, who does not want to play by our rules.....funny that. :lol:
Then having people playing by your rules is a lucky result for you.
Mrs 777 may not be paying, so are you saying you are having her share of the shag, and will pass it on?
I am guessing that the mentality shown by yourself in what I have quoted is that you feel the single person should be grateful for being given the opportunity, and so as not to be too hard on him/her, you will graciously pay half.
You say , as a couple, you hold the cards, and yes, to a certain degree, that is true, but you are almost coming across as a pimp.
You say a hotel would seem a bit seedy, and that you wouldn't pay for one, so I expect that is one cost that would be expected of the single?
In one breath you say "we would not go for a meal" and then follow that with "if we did go for a meal"
I don't think you know what you want, other than getting the single to pay for an night out for you both, with Mrs 777 getting a shag thrown in.
Chill out ffs. I was joking. As for the pimp comment m8, you are bang out of order!!

21 Dec 2008

Quote by markz
I'm rich so its not an issue..........

:rotflmao: You!!! at a meet!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: You're never out of my pm box long enough kiss

21 Dec 2008

Quote by Dirtygirlie
I'm rich so its not an issue..........

Like anyone ever wants to meet you! :roll:
perish the thought......... :roll:

21 Dec 2008

I'd want to pay my way, and the thought of a meal is cool, but I'm not really sure I'd want to shag with a full stomach.
I'd be more likely to burp/fart/puke than orgasm!
So? Who's hotel room is it, yours or mine?

21 Dec 2008

Just to clarify things.... We have never met a single or a couple at a hotel. We have also never been out for a meal with a single guy. Those things we would not do. OUR choice.
When we " entertain " we are the ones that usually supply the drink AND our home, AND the shag..if that happens.
We bring people into our home. We feel that is what WE want to do. We do not want to go to a hotel, once again OUR choice.
The guys we have met have been polite, respectful and it does not cost them a penny.... Is there anything there that anyone wants to pick the bones from in that? :shock:

21 Dec 2008

Quote by kentswingers777
Just to clarify things.... We have never met a single or a couple at a hotel. We have also never been out for a meal with a single guy. Those things we would not do. OUR choice.
When we " entertain " we are the ones that usually supply the drink AND our home, AND the shag..if that happens.
We bring people into our home. We feel that is what WE want to do. We do not want to go to a hotel, once again OUR choice.
The guys we have met have been polite, respectful and it does not cost them a penny.... Is there anything there that anyone wants to pick the bones from in that? :shock:

What brand of coffee do you serve?

21 Dec 2008

Quote by kentswingers777
Is there anything there that anyone wants to pick the bones from in that? :shock:

Depends... how big is the boner?! :rascal:

21 Dec 2008

Quote by kentswingers777
Is there anything there that anyone wants to pick the bones from in that? :shock:

As a single male...

Do you validate parking?
Do you refund fuel costs?
Do you supply complimentary mints on the pillow?

22 Dec 2008

Quote by Peanut
Is there anything there that anyone wants to pick the bones from in that? :shock:

As a single male...

Do you validate parking?
Do you refund fuel costs?
Do you supply complimentary mints on the pillow?
You know what Peanut, I am def warming to you....Wicked reply. lol

22 Dec 2008

Quote by Peanut
Is there anything there that anyone wants to pick the bones from in that? :shock:

As a single male...

Do you validate parking?
Do you refund fuel costs?
Do you supply complimentarymints on the pillow?
can I just have the abusive ones ?

22 Dec 2008

Quote by splendid_
Is there anything there that anyone wants to pick the bones from in that? :shock:

As a single male...

Do you validate parking?
Do you refund fuel costs?
Do you supply complimentarymints on the pillow?
can I just have the abusive ones ?
Sorry, I think you misread mints for markz :P

22 Dec 2008

Quote by Peanut
I'd want to pay my way, and the thought of a meal is cool, but I'm not really sure I'd want to shag with a full stomach.
I'd be more likely to burp/fart/puke than orgasm!
So? Who's hotel room is it, yours or mine?

Burp/fart/puke/ and THEN orgasm???
Isnt that the way all men do it??
(sorry Mike, thats just you isnt it?)
Your room by the way Peanut......split the cost! biggrin

Lucys post.