:? Really interesting read though, always wondered how it all worked! Nosy git, aren't I?
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m8!
There are people I like who can't call me that
You really think that means anything to me?? You don't know me and I certainly dont want to know you. At times is it any wonder single guys get such a bad press on here.
Well, thats certainly put me in my place.
some people have no respect for pub landlords anymore.........
Quote by travlinmanukok
dave_notts .. the point i was trying to make is not one of "pimping" someone elses wife/ girlfriend , it was one purely of that they are a couple you are a single guy / so on a point of manners it is only right you should quietly pay for the room etc to treat someone elses wife/ girlfriend with respect is not pimping but one of ( thank you for inviting me )I am a lucky guy .
steve xx
This is wheer I disagree with most of the posters here. All participants should pay. How much I am still not sure yet.........but if it was couple meeting a single male or female then the couple and single should contribute. Someone else asked should a single female pay? In my books yes.
Dave_Notts
Sex God
A single meeting a couple should I believe pay 50%
The couple,although they are 2 people,are in effect 1 if you get my drift....
Thats what I would expect to pay anyway...
I have,rarely it has to be said :-( , met ladies from here and its my mindset to pay if I am meeting a single lady but I have met with more modern ladies who have paid half the costs....
If a lady insists on paying then I will not offend her by refusing...
I will make an attempt at paying for it all myself but in my experience the women I have met were happy to "Go Dutch" as the saying goes..
The couple,although they are 2 people,are in effect 1 if you get my drift....
Thats what I would expect to pay anyway...
I have,rarely it has to be said :-( , met ladies from here and its my mindset to pay if I am meeting a single lady but I have met with more modern ladies who have paid half the costs....
If a lady insists on paying then I will not offend her by refusing...
I will make an attempt at paying for it all myself but in my experience the women I have met were happy to "Go Dutch" as the saying goes..
Quote by Steve
A single meeting a couple should I believe pay 50%
The couple,although they are 2 people,are in effect 1 if you get my drift....
Thats what I would expect to pay anyway...
I have,rarely it has to be said :-( , met ladies from here and its my mindset to pay if I am meeting a single lady but I have met with more modern ladies who have paid half the costs....
If a lady insists on paying then I will not offend her by refusing...
I will make an attempt at paying for it all myself but in my experience the women I have met were happy to "Go Dutch" as the saying goes..
A good reply Steve, and the highlighted bit I certainly get your " drift ". Some are more inteligent than others.
Can you imagine a couple meeting a single and then wants to split the 85 quid room charge three ways.....thats Yes can imagine each person counting out the 33p's. Madness. A couple counts as one, easy to digest that one.
Sex God
I really don't understand how you can count two people as one.
So for example... you go out for dinner. There are three people, a couple and a single. The bill for the evening came to £100. So in your world that's £50 to the couple and £50 to the single?!
The single didn't eat £50 worth of food so why should he/she pay for it what he/she didn't have?
If I were out with mates, on a purely vanilla basis, no sex involved at all, but they're a couple and I'm a single, they wouldn't expect me to pay for their share of dinner. Why should there be any difference when there is sex involved?
In my world that doesn't make any sense.
So on that basis... why should a hotel bill be any different?
So for example... you go out for dinner. There are three people, a couple and a single. The bill for the evening came to £100. So in your world that's £50 to the couple and £50 to the single?!
The single didn't eat £50 worth of food so why should he/she pay for it what he/she didn't have?
If I were out with mates, on a purely vanilla basis, no sex involved at all, but they're a couple and I'm a single, they wouldn't expect me to pay for their share of dinner. Why should there be any difference when there is sex involved?
In my world that doesn't make any sense.
So on that basis... why should a hotel bill be any different?
Quote by Dirtygirlie
I really don't understand how you can count two people as one.
So for example... you go out for dinner. There are three people, a couple and a single. The bill for the evening came to £100. So in your world that's £50 to the couple and £50 to the single?!
The single didn't eat £50 worth of food so why should he/she pay for it what he/she didn't have?
If I were out with mates, on a purely vanilla basis, no sex involved at all, but they're a couple and I'm a single, they wouldn't expect me to pay for their share of dinner. Why should there be any difference when there is sex involved?
In my world that doesn't make any sense.
So on that basis... why should a hotel bill be any different?
A good post DG. "Some are more inteligent than others." I had to borrow that from somewhere else
Dave_Notts
Quote by Dirtygirlie
So on that basis... why should a hotel bill be any different?
It shouldn't, but I suppose it's supply and demand. While couples are in short supply they, in effect, can make their own (albeit unfair) rules. I wonder whether couples that insist on single men footing more than their fair share of the bill would be quite so prepared to make a single woman pay for them.
It doesn't affect us because we only do clubs but, were we to do a hotel meet, we would certainly expect any bill to be split equally between all those participating. When haggling over money becomes involved it seems to add a quite seedy note to the whole business.
Sex God
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I really don't understand how you can count two people as one.
So for example... you go out for dinner. There are three people, a couple and a single. The bill for the evening came to £100. So in your world that's £50 to the couple and £50 to the single?!
The single didn't eat £50 worth of food so why should he/she pay for it what he/she didn't have?
If I were out with mates, on a purely vanilla basis, no sex involved at all, but they're a couple and I'm a single, they wouldn't expect me to pay for their share of dinner. Why should there be any difference when there is sex involved?
In my world that doesn't make any sense.
So on that basis... why should a hotel bill be any different?
A good post DG. "Some are more inteligent than others." I had to borrow that from somewhere else
Dave_Notts
Well just for future... for anyone who uses that sort of line, can you make a note that is spelt like so, there's even a definition just in case!
It's one thing taking someone out for dinner, that's another topic. Treating your friends is a good thing to do when you can afford to. Expecting to be paid for because you're in a relationship is not a good thing.
I tend to pay my own way because I don't like the thought that can go hand in hand with a "well we paid for dinner" as an expectation that I'm going to be dessert! :wink:
what if the couple are not a vanilla couple but just a couple who meet up and swing together and then they meet a single guy, are the coupel still considered as one if so so which one pays then ??
what if only one part of the couple watches and one plays? who pays then and what percentage?
what if the people in the room next door hear them having sex and find it enjoyable, should they contribute?
oh dear what if one person enjoys it and one doesnt?
is it bogof when 3 people meet?
i think ill stick to dogging...
oh god what if the car park requires a ticket? who pays? what if the guy takes tolong to come and i run into a extra hours parking fee? what if we get the clamp whos fault is that?
youve opened a can of worms here.
lol
xx fem xxx
what if only one part of the couple watches and one plays? who pays then and what percentage?
what if the people in the room next door hear them having sex and find it enjoyable, should they contribute?
oh dear what if one person enjoys it and one doesnt?
is it bogof when 3 people meet?
i think ill stick to dogging...
oh god what if the car park requires a ticket? who pays? what if the guy takes tolong to come and i run into a extra hours parking fee? what if we get the clamp whos fault is that?
youve opened a can of worms here.
lol
xx fem xxx
Quote by fem_4_taboo
what if the couple are not a vanilla couple but just a couple who meet up and swing together and then they meet a single guy, are the coupel still considered as one if so so which one pays then ??
what if only one part of the couple watches and one plays? who pays then and what percentage?
what if the people in the room next door hear them having sex and find it enjoyable, should they contribute?
oh dear what if one person enjoys it and one doesnt?
is it bogof when 3 people meet?
i think ill stick to dogging...
oh god what if the car park requires a ticket? who pays? what if the guy takes tolong to come and i run into a extra hours parking fee? what if we get the clamp whos fault is that?
youve opened a can of worms here.
lol
xx fem xxx
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Quote by fem_4_taboo
what if the couple are not a vanilla couple but just a couple who meet up and swing together and then they meet a single guy, are the coupel still considered as one if so so which one pays then ??
what if only one part of the couple watches and one plays? who pays then and what percentage?
what if the people in the room next door hear them having sex and find it enjoyable, should they contribute?
oh dear what if one person enjoys it and one doesnt?
is it bogof when 3 people meet?
i think ill stick to dogging...
oh god what if the car park requires a ticket? who pays? what if the guy takes tolong to come and i run into a extra hours parking fee? what if we get the clamp whos fault is that?
youve opened a can of worms here.
lol
xx fem xxx
:giggle:
Fem I love you ;)
Callie
Sex God
Quote by northwest-cpl
So on that basis... why should a hotel bill be any different?
It shouldn't, but I suppose it's supply and demand. While couples are in short supply they, in effect, can make their own (albeit unfair) rules. I wonder whether couples that insist on single men footing more than their fair share of the bill would be quite so prepared to make a single woman pay for them.
It doesn't affect us because we only do clubs but, were we to do a hotel meet, we would certainly expect any bill to be split equally between all those participating. When haggling over money becomes involved it seems to add a quite seedy note to the whole business.
I don't doubt any of that, I don't really like it though. The whole "supply and demand" line makes it seedy for me before you even get to the money part!
The age old "holy grail" phrase springs to mind and although I'm sure there are people who don't mind using that to their advantage, I'm not one of them. It's not for me. I don't want to be an object. I want to have fun with friends and the whole business of people spending time with me because of what I am rather than who I am really doesn't do a lot for me at all.
I don't really like discussing the ins and outs of monetary issues, like you say it makes it all a bit seedy but I dare say that I probably should do if I ever play with another couple. I don't really want to be stung for their share in ALL of our fun!
What happes if its a manufactured couple? Does the single still subsidise their fun even though they're not in a "real" relationship?! :dunno:
Worms anyone? :giggle:
Quote by fem_4_taboo
what if the couple are not a vanilla couple but just a couple who meet up and swing together and then they meet a single guy, are the coupel still considered as one if so so which one pays then ??
what if only one part of the couple watches and one plays? who pays then and what percentage?
what if the people in the room next door hear them having sex and find it enjoyable, should they contribute?
oh dear what if one person enjoys it and one doesnt?
is it bogof when 3 people meet?
i think ill stick to dogging...
oh god what if the car park requires a ticket? who pays? what if the guy takes tolong to come and i run into a extra hours parking fee? what if we get the clamp whos fault is that?
youve opened a can of worms here.
lol
xx fem xxx
:P
Quote by fem_4_taboo
what if the couple are not a vanilla couple but just a couple who meet up and swing together and then they meet a single guy, are the coupel still considered as one if so so which one pays then ??
The ugliest one since they should be grateful to be getting any at all.
what if only one part of the couple watches and one plays? who pays then and what percentage?
They should still all pay equal amounts unless the watcher is registered blind, then their share should be halved unless they're also deaf, in which case it should be waived completely.
what if the people in the room next door hear them having sex and find it enjoyable, should they contribute?
I think this should be a voluntary contribution based on artistic merit and technical performance.
oh dear what if one person enjoys it and one doesnt?
That's one for the small claims court.
is it bogof when 3 people meet?
Only if they're past their sell buy date.
i think ill stick to dogging...
oh god what if the car park requires a ticket? who pays? what if the guy takes tolong to come and i run into a extra hours parking fee? what if we get the clamp whos fault is that?
The dog should pay in every case.
youve opened a can of worms here.
lol
xx fem xxx
Quote by Steve
A single meeting a couple should I believe pay 50%
The couple,although they are 2 people,are in effect 1 if you get my drift....
Mmmmm I've seen this "couple treated as one" reasoning posed before. I suspect it's quickly changed if that reasoning is the basis for only one lot of oral sex though
I'm afraid I will never pay 50% of anything when three people are involved, it's not my job to subsidise others just because I'm single, whether it's swinging or dinner or anything else!
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I really don't understand how you can count two people as one.
So for example... you go out for dinner. There are three people, a couple and a single. The bill for the evening came to £100. So in your world that's £50 to the couple and £50 to the single?!
The single didn't eat £50 worth of food so why should he/she pay for it what he/she didn't have?
If I were out with mates, on a purely vanilla basis, no sex involved at all, but they're a couple and I'm a single, they wouldn't expect me to pay for their share of dinner. Why should there be any difference when there is sex involved?
In my world that doesn't make any sense.
So on that basis... why should a hotel bill be any different?
A good post DG. "Some are more inteligent than others." I had to borrow that from somewhere else
Dave_Notts
Well just for future... for anyone who uses that sort of line, can you make a note that is spelt like so, there's even a definition just in case!
It's one thing taking someone out for dinner, that's another topic. Treating your friends is a good thing to do when you can afford to. Expecting to be paid for because you're in a relationship is not a good thing.
I tend to pay my own way because I don't like the thought that can go hand in hand with a "well we paid for dinner" as an expectation that I'm going to be dessert! :wink:
A slip of the keyboard!
Am sure people who have a bit of trouble spelling on here, will take great delight in others taking the piss out of others spelling mistakes.
Or maybe just a dig at me perhaps? :dunno: beware of taking the you know what out of others spelling, because we can all make mistakes on occasion where spelling is concerned. Am sure you will be picked up on it the next time you make that same mistake. :wink:
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Or maybe just a dig at me perhaps?
You missed the possessive apostrophe. :twisted:
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Or maybe just a dig at me perhaps?
You missed the possessive apostrophe. :twisted:
Oooooops.....well rap my knuckles.
Sex God
Quote by kentswingers777
A slip of the keyboard!
Am sure people who have a bit of trouble spelling on here, will take great delight in others taking the piss out of others spelling mistakes.
Or maybe just a dig at me perhaps?
Lighten up Kenty... it be Christmas! :wink:
It just makes me giggle when people do the whole intelligent line and then spell it wrong. It's like profiles that talk about proffesssionallls! :mrgreen:
Nothing personal... I use big spades for digs! And I'm really careful with my spelling cause Freckledbird threatens me with the cane! :rascal:
Mind... on that note maybe I should spell stuff wrong more often! :wink:
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A slip of the keyboard!
Am sure people who have a bit of trouble spelling on here, will take great delight in others taking the piss out of others spelling mistakes.
Or maybe just a dig at me perhaps?
Lighten up Kenty... it be Christmas! :wink:
It just makes me giggle when people do the whole intelligent line and then spell it wrong. It's like profiles that talk about proffesssionallls! :mrgreen:
Nothing personal... I use big spades for digs! And I'm really careful with my spelling cause Freckledbird threatens me with the cane! :rascal:
Mind... on that note maybe I should spell stuff wrong more often! :wink:
Not for a couple more days yet. :cry:
I do not often make mistakes with my spelling but on this occasion I obviously did.
Will have to be more careful in future, as now we have another FB on my case. :wink:
Sex God
Quote by travlinmanukok
If i was to have to meet a couple in say a hotel etc i would expect to pay , the subject wouldnt be brought up , as a single guy i think its your place to foot the bill you are sharing someone elses wife/ girlfriend .When i meet someone I allways bring a bottle and flowers for the lady no matter if anything happens i think its etiquate just to say with flowers I appreciate your invite . Yes i think a guy should pay out without question .
steve xx
.... and this we are going to disagree big time on
you make it sound like the single guy is the only one getting any sort of pleasure for it, they are doing you a favour......
I thought swinging was about everyone getting pleasure out of it, so why shouldn't everyone contribute?
I always contribute straight down the middle....
so if someone for example couple wanted a black guy, should they then pay for everything? after all acording to your example, am i not doing them a favour??
I did see someone ask a question earlier that none of the couples answered.......
does the same rules apply to single fems as well as single guys??? I know there are a few double standards in swinging, just wondered if this was one of them??
sean xxxxxxxxx
Sex God
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Not for a couple more days yet. :cry:
I do not often make mistakes with my spelling but on this occasion I obviously did.
Will have to be more careful in future, as now we have another FB on my case.
Actually I was responding to Dave_Notts and it was merely an observation rather than a poke at you so I'm sorry if you read it that way.
And Christmas spirit doesn't have to wait till the 25th!
Merry Christmas! :mrgreen:
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If i was to have to meet a couple in say a hotel etc i would expect to pay , the subject wouldnt be brought up , as a single guy i think its your place to foot the bill you are sharing someone elses wife/ girlfriend .When i meet someone I allways bring a bottle and flowers for the lady no matter if anything happens i think its etiquate just to say with flowers I appreciate your invite . Yes i think a guy should pay out without question .
steve xx
.... and this we are going to disagree big time on
you make it sound like the single guy is the only one getting any sort of pleasure for it, they are doing you a favour......
I thought swinging was about everyone getting pleasure out of it, so why shouldn't everyone contribute?
I always contribute straight down the middle....
so if someone for example couple wanted a black guy, should they then pay for everything? after all acording to your example, am i not doing them a favour??
I did see someone ask a question earlier that none of the couples answered.......
does the same rules apply to single fems as well as single guys??? I know there are a few double standards in swinging, just wondered if this was one of them??
sean xxxxxxxxx
Ah Fabs...the dreaded double standards thingy. I would say yes it is a bit different,and will tell you why.
Single guys are two a penny out there, but single fems are rarer than golden chicken teeth.
If you are lucky enough to find a single fem, than hang on to her cos they do not come around often.There have been many threads about single guys, over various subjects, and the ones with the most to say, are the single guys. At times they seem to think they are hard done by. Maybe because they reply to ads and couples never reply or....they send a wink and never hear anything back. Maybe that is wrong, but couples that we know feel that guys are so plentiful, as opposed to single fems.
Sorry but whatever anyone says I for one will not be swayed in that, couples always have the upper hand because of the female.
We can just as easily meet a couple as a single guy, but choose at this moment a single guy. We set out the ground rules before any meet, and whilst there are guys on this thread who have said they would never meet a couple if they laid the rules down, we have never ever found a guy who did not want to play by our rules.
In our experience most of the guys would do almost anything to get a meet. I said MOST not all.
We used to know a couple where they they just wanted the guy to come round and shag her, with nothing being said. Not for us but you know what? they never had trouble finding guys who were too willing to come round, and do just that.
Each to their own, whatever works for others may not work for us. We have no trouble finding meets, the guys have always wanted to come back so......no matter what others say, maybe we are doing things just fine.
Does that make any sense Fabs? As it does not quite sound right even to me.
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Not for a couple more days yet. :cry:
I do not often make mistakes with my spelling but on this occasion I obviously did.
Will have to be more careful in future, as now we have another FB on my case.
Actually I was responding to Dave_Notts and it was merely an observation rather than a poke at you so I'm sorry if you read it that way.
And Christmas spirit doesn't have to wait till the 25th!
Merry Christmas! :mrgreen:
No problem.
As Dave was saying about INTELLIGENCE
you seen how rubbish he is in the SH quiz? 
Quote by fabio
If i was to have to meet a couple in say a hotel etc i would expect to pay , the subject wouldnt be brought up , as a single guy i think its your place to foot the bill you are sharing someone elses wife/ girlfriend .When i meet someone I allways bring a bottle and flowers for the lady no matter if anything happens i think its etiquate just to say with flowers I appreciate your invite . Yes i think a guy should pay out without question .
steve xx
.... and this we are going to disagree big time on
you make it sound like the single guy is the only one getting any sort of pleasure for it, they are doing you a favour......
I thought swinging was about everyone getting pleasure out of it, so why shouldn't everyone contribute?
I always contribute straight down the middle....
so if someone for example couple wanted a black guy, should they then pay for everything? after all acording to your example, am i not doing them a favour??
I did see someone ask a question earlier that none of the couples answered.......
does the same rules apply to single fems as well as single guys??? I know there are a few double standards in swinging, just wondered if this was one of them??
sean xxxxxxxxx
Fabio...if we met you ....we would pay for absolutley everything!!
Sex God
Quote by kentswingers777
Ah Fabs...the dreaded double standards thingy. I would say yes it is a bit different,and will tell you why.
Single guys are two a penny out there, but single fems are rarer than golden chicken teeth.
There have been many threads about single guys, over various subjects, and the ones with the most to say, are the single guys. At times they seem to think they are hard done by. Maybe because they reply to ads and couples never reply or....they send a wink and never hear anything back. Maybe that is wrong, but couples that we know feel that guys are so plentiful, as opposed to single fems.
Sorry but whatever anyone says I for one will not be swayed in that, couples always have the upper hand because of the female.
We can just as easily meet a couple as a single guy, but choose at this moment a single guy. We set out the ground rules before any meet, and whilst there are guys on this thread who have said they would never meet a couple if they laid the rules down, we have never ever found a guy who did not want to play by our rules.
In our experience most of the guys would do almost anything to get a meet. I said MOST not all.
We used to know a couple where they they just wanted the guy to come round and shag her, with nothing being said. Not for us but you know what? they never had trouble finding guys who were too willing to come round, and do just that.
Each to their own, whatever works for others may not work for us. We have no trouble finding meets, the guys have always wanted to come back so......no matter what others say, maybe we are doing things just fine.
Does that make any sense Fabs? As it does not quite sound right even to me.
It does make sense.... and thanks for answering it honestly...
what I am learning is that maybe my integrity means more to me than a shag does,
I did say I would stop going to socials with quota's and I haven't gone back on that,
A few couples have come to me with stipulations likes yours, the reasoning being the same, after all we hold the power and we are doing you a favour....
I have just told them thank you, but no thank you....
The reasoning for me saying that is that like I said before, everyone is getting something out of it, be that pleasure or watching, or a million other things....
I take it that whoever you play with that you must of had some sort of attraction or you wouldn't want to play with them in the 1st place.
so are you not wanting them or much as they want you?
you may have a few more options than us single guys but i am guessing you only meet so many
