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Quote by havantcouple
Allow me:
r (ours) is to lose at strip poke (poker) and
b (be) throun (thrown) out with nothing bar
r (our) front door key. and b (be) left to fing (find)
r (our) own way home as we r (are)
A not-very-convincing attempt at text speak, further hampered by the failure to realise that "are" and "our" are in fact two completely different words, even if they are pronounced the same in backward areas. ;)
DYSLECTIC HI I AM dyslectic
I don't believe you.
Sex God
Quote by manofmuchfun
Ice,
if you look at the fellas posts only the first one was decent and that was probably done by his missus !............can I ask your opinion then ?
I fail to see the relevance. He's NOT dyslexic, as anyone who has dealt with dyslexia will tell you. Dyslexia is a very specific condition affecting people's ability to recognise patterns in written text. It doesn't make people consistently spell a word the same wrong way every time, it doesn't cause failure to understand punctuation, it doesn't cause people to fail to understand the difference between similar SPOKEN words and spell them wrong as a result, and it is a hell of a lot rarer than some poor spellers on this site would have you believe. Many people use it as a cop out, viz, "I'm crap at spelling, but I can't be bothered, so I'll pretend I'm dyslexic to immunise myself against possible criticism" and, in the usual politically correct style, everyone says "Oh you poor thing, let me patronise you and tell you what a wonderful person you are regardless."
Ice
This is supposedly a swingers site although at times it seems that there is more attention paid to spelling and correct grammar than sex. So long as people can be understood, does it really matter how they write? Havantcouple's post was perfectly understandable to me and I don't send texts.
One of the nicest guys we know (not a swinger) writes in capitals and asks me to write any formal letters for him. He is not lazy. He works very long hours. However, he did not do well at school and has no desire to return to school now - his fault or the fault of the education system? Either way, his lack of written English has not detracted from his personality or from him being a homeowner, self-employed and successfully raising a family. In other words, he has a very successful life despite not being able to write.
We never check people's writing ability before we play with them but maybe we should have a standard handwriting and spelling test for them to complete before we play to avoid playing with people that are intellectually or educationally inferior to us.
One of the nicest guys we know (not a swinger) writes in capitals and asks me to write any formal letters for him. He is not lazy. He works very long hours. However, he did not do well at school and has no desire to return to school now - his fault or the fault of the education system? Either way, his lack of written English has not detracted from his personality or from him being a homeowner, self-employed and successfully raising a family. In other words, he has a very successful life despite not being able to write.
We never check people's writing ability before we play with them but maybe we should have a standard handwriting and spelling test for them to complete before we play to avoid playing with people that are intellectually or educationally inferior to us.
I think it' s worth doing, as Ice has a point. Many of us would prefer to err on the side of caution for fear of ridiculing someone who possibly doesn't deserve it, and this is very easily taken advantage of. That's not to say I'd be happy jump on people who have severe problems with spelling but not dyslexia, because I wouldn't, just that I don't like to be taken for a fool!
Mars is much less wordy than I. He says, "I can't spell for shit, but I'm not like some of the twats on there, I know how to use a spell checker..........."
That's his say then! :shock:
Sometimes people just need a gentle nudge toward using one.
Venusxxx
Mars is much less wordy than I. He says, "I can't spell for shit, but I'm not like some of the twats on there, I know how to use a spell checker..........."
That's his say then! :shock:
Sometimes people just need a gentle nudge toward using one.
Venusxxx
Sex God
Just to clarify, I'm not having a pop at people whose spelling isn't great, it's people who won't even try and then lie about the reason that I have a problem with.
Quote by northwest-cpl
This is supposedly a swingers site although at times it seems that there is more attention paid to spelling and correct grammar than sex. So long as people can be understood, does it really matter how they write? Havantcouple's post was perfectly understandable to me and I don't send texts.
Personally, I found the initial post hard work, and I'm afraid to say that I probably would avoid a thread in which many of the posts were written as such simply because I prefer more fluid reading. I think people should to meet meet half-way. Whilst I don't like to see people get too pedantic about it, equally I like to see an effort made by the author to be understood, after all, their post is supposed to be communicating to an audiance, so some consideration for the audiance is necessary to a point IMO.
I do try to get an idea of a person's character from their posts, and considerate people are much more attractive to me. People who are too judgemental turn me off, and people who become aware that their posts are difficult to understand, but don't give a shit enough to be bothered to try to improve this, despite easy options being available, also turn me off.
That said, maybe the author wouldn't find me attractive for exactly that reason, in which case their posting style would do a wonderful job of filtering me out! :lol2:
Venusxxx
When I am typing more than a sentence or two, I often will do it in Word and spell check it before pasting on here.
I want to make sure that people can understand what I am saying.
We all make spelling mistakes, sometimes they are funny and a good laugh can be had.
Not everyone that composes unintelligible posts is dyslexic
I want to make sure that people can understand what I am saying.
We all make spelling mistakes, sometimes they are funny and a good laugh can be had.
Not everyone that composes unintelligible posts is dyslexic
Quote by Ice Pie
Just to clarify, I'm not having a pop at people whose spelling isn't great, it's people who won't even try and then lie about the reason that I have a problem with.
I totally agree with this. Just to throw a spanner in the works (sorry, I'm in one of those moods :mrgreen
Do you not think it's possible that Dyslexia, abeit more accepted, is misunderstood enough by some to cause them to believe that they really do have it? Perhaps is not so much a matter of people lying, but just jumping to badly drawn conclusions?Venusxxx
Sex God
Quote by VenusnMars
Do you not think it's possible that Dyslexia, abeit more accepted, is misunderstood enough by some to cause them to believe that they really do have it?
I'm certain of it.
Every parent wants to believe their child is a genius, and if the child shows the slightest evidence that this might not be the case, the parent will attribute it to some fashionable "learning difficulty". This gets a lot of sympathy, which the parent loves, and they pretty soon realise that they can apply it with equal effect to themselves. Meanwhile, the kid grows up believing he can't learn and leaves school unable to compete as a direct result of his parent's selfish vanity.
Ice
Sex God
Anyone remember this thread?
Seems like we've been here before. Newbie comes in. Newbie gets flamed. We all dissect the threads and comments made and then do exactly the same thing next time.
Is the forum really that boring that we constantly need to do this every time someone gets flamed?
Oh and on the subject of dyslexics being stupid, an employee of MIT once said that dyslexia was the "disease" of choice as over 3/4 of the reserchers there had been diagnosed with it at one level or another.
Seems like we've been here before. Newbie comes in. Newbie gets flamed. We all dissect the threads and comments made and then do exactly the same thing next time.
Is the forum really that boring that we constantly need to do this every time someone gets flamed?
Oh and on the subject of dyslexics being stupid, an employee of MIT once said that dyslexia was the "disease" of choice as over 3/4 of the reserchers there had been diagnosed with it at one level or another.
Sex God
Quote by Ice Pie
Do you not think it's possible that Dyslexia, abeit more accepted, is misunderstood enough by some to cause them to believe that they really do have it?
I'm certain of it.
Every parent wants to believe their child is a genius, and if the child shows the slightest evidence that this might not be the case, the parent will attribute it to some fashionable "learning difficulty". This gets a lot of sympathy, which the parent loves, and they pretty soon realise that they can apply it with equal effect to themselves. Meanwhile, the kid grows up believing he can't learn and leaves school unable to compete as a direct result of his parent's selfish vanity.
Ice
Oooo sweeping generalism anyone?
Sex God
Quote by easy
Oooo sweeping generalism anyone?
No more so than this:
Quote by easy
Newbie comes in. Newbie gets flamed. We all dissect the threads and comments made and then do exactly the same thing next time.
It seems neither of us felt the need to point out that we weren't talking about everyone ;)
I was trying to keep out of this one... but I've been drawn in (like so many others it appears) because of the polar nature of the discussion.
There is no clear cut case to be answered by anyone here.
In fact, I too have been "affected" by the condition in that my daughter was diagnosed as a sufferer at an early age. She's now 13 and the schools have spent years trying to get her to spell correctly, pandering to the dyslexia. Her frustration at not being able to keep up with her peers has made her bitter towards school and education, so she's now in remedial classes.
Amazingly they suddenly realised that all these years of pain were not due to dyslexia.... she's just partially deaf!!!! All this time she's been "hearing" what people say by a combination of partial hearing and lip reading. She's now been fitted with a hearing aid and is having to re-learn how to speak and write because she can suddenly hear the words as they were meant to be heard.
So, I totally agree with both sides here; Dyslxia is a horrible thing to suffer, but remember that it's not always an accurate diagnosis. It's just a convenient catch all.
There is no clear cut case to be answered by anyone here.
In fact, I too have been "affected" by the condition in that my daughter was diagnosed as a sufferer at an early age. She's now 13 and the schools have spent years trying to get her to spell correctly, pandering to the dyslexia. Her frustration at not being able to keep up with her peers has made her bitter towards school and education, so she's now in remedial classes.
Amazingly they suddenly realised that all these years of pain were not due to dyslexia.... she's just partially deaf!!!! All this time she's been "hearing" what people say by a combination of partial hearing and lip reading. She's now been fitted with a hearing aid and is having to re-learn how to speak and write because she can suddenly hear the words as they were meant to be heard.
So, I totally agree with both sides here; Dyslxia is a horrible thing to suffer, but remember that it's not always an accurate diagnosis. It's just a convenient catch all.
Quote by Ice Pie
Do you not think it's possible that Dyslexia, abeit more accepted, is misunderstood enough by some to cause them to believe that they really do have it?
I'm certain of it.
Every parent wants to believe their child is a genius, and if the child shows the slightest evidence that this might not be the case, the parent will attribute it to some fashionable "learning difficulty". This gets a lot of sympathy, which the parent loves, and they pretty soon realise that they can apply it with equal effect to themselves. Meanwhile, the kid grows up believing he can't learn and leaves school unable to compete as a direct result of his parent's selfish vanity.
Ice
Difficult as low self esteem and dyslexia run together often anyway.
My eldest has finally been properly assessed after years and years of school 'not wanting to put a label on things,' as they put it. I found out about a study the university were doing (they paid my boy a fiver - that was his incentive lol!) and popped him on there. I felt like I was undermining what others had said previously - I know very little about dyslexia and have supported what school's done for years but he's nearly 15 now and was looking for an answer of kinds.
The result is that he has 'problems of a dyslexic nature' and would benefit from 'continued support and extra time in examinations to achieve his full potential.' Now far be it for me to feel happy that he has a 'problem' of kinds but my, when I opened that letter yesterday morning I was so chuffed - it's a starting point!
For anyone interested or who feels (as my boy does) it's too late to change things, I've been looking into this;
Sounded a bit airy-fairy to me at first but they are getting results and we have tried nearly every back to basics literacy technique you can chuck at us! Now if I can just get him doing these damn exercises eh?
I don't want him to think he's gotta be a brain surgeon - just to be able to do what he wants to do and not find it all so bloody difficult!
Cathy x
Quote by VenusnMars
Personally, I found the initial post hard work, and I'm afraid to say that I probably would avoid a thread in which many of the posts were written as such simply because I prefer more fluid reading. I think people should to meet meet half-way. Whilst I don't like to see people get too pedantic about it, equally I like to see an effort made by the author to be understood, after all, their post is supposed to be communicating to an audiance, so some consideration for the audiance is necessary to a point IMO.
Initially I wouldn't have responded to their thread either. I read it but textspeak, while intelligible, is unattractive to me personally. However, although I didn't like it, I didn't feel it was my business to criticise it. A thread that by now could be on page 3 is 5 pages long and at the top of page 1. Maybe the answer to shite threads is to let them die a natural death. The alternative seems to keep them in view but hijacked by people bickering over the rights and wrongs of posting styles.
There is nothing in the Posting Guidelines or AUP that says we have to spell correctly or avoid abbreviations. Maybe what is, and is not, acceptaable should be left to Mark and the Moderators. (An excellent 60s band if anyone remembers them
) Sex God
Quote by Ice Pie
Oooo sweeping generalism anyone?
No more so than this:
Quote by easy
Newbie comes in. Newbie gets flamed. We all dissect the threads and comments made and then do exactly the same thing next time.
It seems neither of us felt the need to point out that we weren't talking about everyone ;)
OK a bit of research needs to be carried out here. I'll put up a post asking for anyone who has never flamed a newbie or taken part in the navel-gazing (tm TE 2005) to come forward and have all their posts examined.
You need to go out and interview every parent (possibly worldwide) to see if they would use dyslexia as an excuse for their childs academic failings.
:P :P :P
Hey, for once I didn't get the shitty end of the stick
Life's too short to worry about the small things.
Punctuation and spelling mistakes, well that's really such a small thing I just don't get the annoyance. Whether it be conversational, a genuine mistake, dislexia (which I can't even spell, and no, I'm not going to spell check) or a blatant piss take, it's still such a small thing.
I understand most of us come to the cafe for the conversation and not just the sex, but there are still those who visit for one reason and one reason only, sex. They don't give a monkeys about their spelling mistakes, incorrect grammer, or even pissing the padantics off.
You guys have used up 5 pages, bouncing this thread to the top.
Why?
This is a swinging forum, not an English lesson.
Punctuation and spelling mistakes, well that's really such a small thing I just don't get the annoyance. Whether it be conversational, a genuine mistake, dislexia (which I can't even spell, and no, I'm not going to spell check) or a blatant piss take, it's still such a small thing.
I understand most of us come to the cafe for the conversation and not just the sex, but there are still those who visit for one reason and one reason only, sex. They don't give a monkeys about their spelling mistakes, incorrect grammer, or even pissing the padantics off.
You guys have used up 5 pages, bouncing this thread to the top.
Why?
This is a swinging forum, not an English lesson.
Sex God
Quote by Red(RHG)
Difficult as low self esteem and dyslexia run together often anyway.
There's an annoying irony to that: Dyslexia was regarded as a manifestation of stupidity before it was better understood. Now that it is better understood, some people falsely claim it and it is coming to be regarded as a euphemism for simple poor spelling and the stigma is coming back.
Quote by easy
Seems like we've been here before. Newbie comes in. Newbie gets flamed. We all dissect the threads and comments made and then do exactly the same thing next time.
Is the forum really that boring that we constantly need to do this every time someone gets flamed?
I think the question you should be asking is 'Is the forum really that boring that people feel the need to constantly flame for their own entertainment'
And yes, I will confront it from time to time. I don't do so all the time, but when I do, I'm not afraid to see the discussion through to the end, and all the time it encourages people, myself included, sit back and re-evaluate their approach, and I believe it does, then I find it valuable. It will happen again and again because of the traffic here.
Fortunately, or unfortunately, depending on how you perceive it, I'm very good at happening again and again and again also, and so are many others.
It's a balance, of sorts.
Again I am not speaking with this thread as the main focus.
Venusxxx
Dyslexia aside -
Some people just can’t spell or communicate effectively in written form, there is nothing wrong with them they just can’t.
However, some of those people probably could, but they are too lazy or not interested.
I can’t fix car engines, nothing wrong with that.
However, I probably could fix car engines to some degree but I am not interested and can’t be bothered, so I don’t.
To post on a forum, you should at least make the effort to hold peoples concentration and be understood.
Some people just can’t spell or communicate effectively in written form, there is nothing wrong with them they just can’t.
However, some of those people probably could, but they are too lazy or not interested.
I can’t fix car engines, nothing wrong with that.
However, I probably could fix car engines to some degree but I am not interested and can’t be bothered, so I don’t.
To post on a forum, you should at least make the effort to hold peoples concentration and be understood.
Sex God
Quote by Libra-Love
Oh, and have you guys noticed, every time one of these grammer and punctuation threads get going the rest of the forum grinds to a holt?
Can't say I'd noticed that, but yes, if it happens a lot I guess it must be a bit of a bore for a lot of people.
Quote by Libra-Love
You guys have used up 5 pages, bouncing this thread to the top.
Why?
This is a swinging forum, not an English lesson.
Because it has turned into an interesting discussion about Dyslexia and other things.
Quote by Ice Pie
Can't say I'd noticed that, but yes, if it happens a lot I guess it must be a bit of a bore for a lot of people.
Or alternatively perhaps it grinds to a halt because people are busy reading an interesting debate? :mrgreen:
Venusxxx
Sex God
And if I were in point-scoring mode, I could point out that it's not an astrology site either. ;)
Quote by Libra-Love
Ok Venus, if you say so.
I'll come back in a few day when perhaps the board is back to normal.
Christ, if that is how discussions like this are really making people feel I'll STFU. I have no intention of being a part of a bigger problem than those which I perceive.
/slumps of wailing "why am I so misunderstood!"
I'll be working soon anyway, honest!
Venusxxx