well.... a law-breaker... I guess.
but then... not having children Im not as 'close'to this subject as many.
I just thought I'd raise that question.
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The think i'm try to get over is most of the posts on here are having a go at the mother of the child.
The mother of the child broke the law for leting her have sex with a 22 year old in her house. True under the new sex offences act 2003 this is against the law.
But every parent who allows there child to as it say "public displays of affection" ether inside of outside of there house is also guilty of a criminal offence.
The problem here is every one is talking about black and white, there is no such thing as black and white every thing has a shade of gray.
Yes we can all take the moral high ground shout and wave our arms about but at the end of the day all we can do is speculate or make assumtions.
we do not have all the fact, we are only party to some of the facts and has been said before there is a BIG differnce between paedophiler(sp?) and and ever the law agrees with me there.
Now i have been in the situation of being the abused. And i also had a years or so ago watch a family go through excatly what has happened here with that mother.
Yes go phone the police and they will do absolutly nothing becuase there has to be beond resonable doubt that a crime has been commited, now comes the tricky bit and that is how do you prove it.
Has anyone here had the pleasure of working in a night club in the last 3 yrs. if you have then you'll know what i'm talking about from 2003 untill present i have worked in a variety of night clubs on the safety and security teams my job was to provide medical cover for some very large night clubs, do you know what my biggest influx of clientel was? it was undergae girl some as young a 14 (and belive me they looked older) drunk and intoxicated passed out in the female toliets.
ok not sure if i have made any sense here. but i think we should give the mother a brake she did what she did with the best intentions in the world and got it wrong Boo Hoo big deal who hasn't
Oh dear this thread is getting ridiculous now, we have all had opinions dus it mean then we have to av digs at each other
Having just gone through this thread, I have to say some of the viewpoints and opinions are disgusting, unnecessary and have no place on this forum.
But thats enough of the childish bickering and points scoring, and back (tenuously) to the main subject.
Three words come to mind, walk, mile, shoes.
Each and every one of us have so far lived lives that are individuals, lives that have been shaped by the decisions of ourselves and others, some of those decisions have worked out, some havent, I know my childhood was shaped by a number of decisions that didn't work out for me, decisions that in the cold light of day would have been different, decisions that I would not have grown up to have resented.
The fact that there has been many topics on this forum that people have had differing thoughts, shows that we don't all follow one rulebook, there is no text book to learn life, yes, some make mistakes, for whatever reasons, but if you disagree with the actions of someone, don't copy them or make judgements, the daughter of that mother might be someone today that you feel is messed up, caused by the decision that her mother made, and in 10 years time, be somebody you would like and respect.
Yes people can make decisions and get them right or wrong, people can also move on, many people have done.
i would rip the bollox of any 22 year old that came anywhere near my 14 year old daughter in a sexual way, not sure why you would even suggest being swingers we may be more open minded to this, at 14 year old the law says a girl is not old enough to be allowed to give consent to having sex there for what he did was and her mother allowed it!!! not in my house mrs lol
I wouldn't at 14 & 22 .... I'd deter him as much as possible and if it meant involving the law I would however, as someone who ended up sneaking around behind her parents back with boyfriend of the moment and getting pregnant, I know there's no way of stopping kids once they set their mind to it!
I'd prefer my child not to be doing it at all, but I'd hate for them to be sneaking around like I did, having no advice re STI, contraception and responsibility!
I don't agree with what the mother did however, I can understand the sentiment behind it!
The newspaper article made me feel sick. Not the sad little girl or the sad man who got banged up or the sad mother.
Nope it was all the people in the article and in this thread passing judgment on a situation they have never and probably will never find themselves in.
An adult woman, the person responsible for the care and well being of a child allowed another fully-grown adult to have full sex with said child. Just how is it unacceptable to find the woman at fault?
The age of consent may be fairly arbitrary, and maybe a tiny handful of 14 year-olds can handle a sexual relationship and be fully in control of their own choices, but the age limit was put there to protect the majority.
It is a simple rule - no sex under 16. The argument that "she would find a way to have sex with him somehow" simply doesn't wash. It is not about whether she will, it's about the fact that her mother abandoned her responsibility to protect her child and let a man have her cos it was easier than doing the right thing.
How is sex in her mother's house safer than sex in her boyfriends house? Unless her mother was watching and ensured condoms were used and no force applied. She simply shouldn't be having sex AT ALL.
i dont understand why someone has to justify their reasons for having an opinion on this.
the mother was to blame, probally by her action long before this event. just because your chld might do it anyway, you did stuff just as bad etc etc is no excuse for a mother condoning an adult fucking her daughter.
children will push the bounderies, this does not mean we should push them down for them.
yes have talks with the daughetr about keeping safe, std wise, physically and emotionally.
call the police, ok she might kick off, etc
but to piss your daughter off a bit right now and she may well tahnk you for it a few years down the line.
parenting isnt about the easy option. she willshoplift anyway so i went with her, she will mug the old lady so i did it for her, etc etc
i never said it would be easy. no one did.
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