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Quote by st3v3
After making the post quoted above I modified the Posting Guidelines (see point 5).
The photo ads/gallery images have also been mentioned, without logging in you will only be able to view the images rated as 'non adult'.

Sorry I must have missed the Changes to AUP/Guidelines thread rolleyes
I think something as fundamentally different to the old guidelines should have been hammered into all members, some of us could have ended up banned otherwise.
Jas
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Interesting one this, I wasn’t going to bother adding my twopeneth worth as most of what was in my mind has already been said by others far more eloquently than I could put it.
However, I will just add this, as an initiator of one of the threads that encouraged the posting of, lets call them at worst “titillating” pictures, I am totally shocked, taken aback and even a little saddened, not only by the managements comments which were the reason for this thread being posted, but by the attitude of some of the contributors.
If I were a suspicious person, or subscribed to conspiracy theories, it could almost seem like there was some kind of “divide and rule” thing going on here, which of course most of you and I know there isn’t, but I wonder how it looks to someone that hasn’t been a member for very long?
After all is said and done, this is an adult site, it has an over 18 optin button, and I think it even has an adult content warning (if it hasn’t, it should have)
If there really are adults who regularly log onto this site who are offended by adult pictures :shock: the answer is simple, don’t look dunno the ratio of threads without adult pictures by far outweighs those that have so I cant see it as a problem really.
As for the press? F**K em I say, they will get their sensationalist smut somewhere be it here or somewhere else, and if they cant find it, they’ll make it up as usual. Perhaps by being able to browse such a site like SH we may go a small way towards educating them about the true nature of the UK Swinging Community, and help to bring a little tollerance into the world.
EOR
Quote by st3v3
After making the post quoted above I modified the Posting Guidelines (see point 5).
The photo ads/gallery images have also been mentioned, without logging in you will only be able to view the images rated as 'non adult'.

I wonder, after 3 months and more since you bought the site, why it is still Mark's guidelines that you are using. Rather than just modifying a small part of his guidelines, shouldn't you have written your own, from scratch, to match your mission statement (assuming you have one) and at the very least state clearly who is now posting those guidelines, since presumably Mark no longer has a say in what those guidelines state? It is very misleading to leave guidelines from the ex-owner when the main ethos of the site seems to have changed so radically from the site that he developed.
Quote by northwest-cpl
After making the post quoted above I modified the Posting Guidelines (see point 5).
The photo ads/gallery images have also been mentioned, without logging in you will only be able to view the images rated as 'non adult'.

I wonder, after 3 months and more since you bought the site, why it is still Mark's guidelines that you are using. Rather than just modifying a small part of his guidelines, shouldn't you have written your own, from scratch, to match your mission statement (assuming you have one) and at the very least state clearly who is now posting those guidelines, since presumably Mark no longer has a say in what those guidelines state? It is very misleading to leave guidelines from the ex-owner when the main ethos of the site seems to have changed so radically from the site that he developed.
Even more misleading to change AUP and not inform members explicitly instead of having it nestled nicely away in a thread. confused rolleyes
Quote by little gem
Even more misleading to change AUP and not inform members explicitly instead of having it nestled nicely away in a thread. confused rolleyes

You mean people don't read them every time they log on, but assume that they remain the same until it's announced clearly that they've changed? :shock: :shock: :shock:
Quote by northwest-cpl
Even more misleading to change AUP and not inform members explicitly instead of having it nestled nicely away in a thread. confused rolleyes

You mean people don't read them every time they log on, but assume that they remain the same until it's announced clearly that they've changed? :shock: :shock: :shock:
rotflmao
Youre obviously not far enough up admins arse to be deemed worthy enough for a personal message letting you know about changes that could get you barrred! :roll: lol ;)
But they'll happily send you a weekly update of potential shags northwestcpl... if youre struggling to find sex on a swingers site, cos erm... now that we;re not allowed to show bit n bobs.... do you think actually meeting up for real life sex with strangers is against the AUP yet? Or do we still have a choice there? dunno
Gem. x :lol:
Quote by little gem
Youre obviously not far enough up admins arse to be deemed worthy enough for a personal message letting you know about changes that could get you barrred! rolleyes lol ;)

I've spent most of a long and sometimes harrowing lifetime being in the shit in some way or another but you've just added another dimension to it. That rather unpleasant image is now stuck firmly in my mind just as dinner time approaches. confused
Quote by northwest-cpl
Youre obviously not far enough up admins arse to be deemed worthy enough for a personal message letting you know about changes that could get you barrred! rolleyes lol ;)

I've spent most of a long and sometimes harrowing lifetime being in the shit in some way or another but you've just added another dimension to it. That rather unpleasant image is now stuck firmly in my mind just as dinner time approaches. confused
:eeek: ewwwwwwwwwww! thanks for passing that one on!
< puke >
Quote by neilinleeds
why should we moderate what we choose to post, so long as it is in line with AUP, such as pics from blue's parties for example, which serve a valid function in that they prove beyond doubt that this site is real and it works, simply to pander to laziness? this is an open site, it has always been an open site. it's central theme is openness, and without that openness, what is the point of it? we are adults, on an adult site. we need to act like adults sure enough, but we certainly don't need to be treated like kids?
neil x x x ;)

Having just read through this entire thread, Neil's post completely sums it up for me!!!
Other than that I'm currently lost for words confused :? :? :?
:thumbup: :gagged:
ive been told to keep my gob shut , it only encourages trolls and we dont want that do we!
staggy
Having re-read this thread I see no trolls but a fair few disgruntled people who seem to have legitimate opinions, albeit differing to the admin party line, who have expressed those differing opinions in a reasoned and constructive way and within the AUP. There should be no reason for anyone in this thread to feel that they shouldn't have their say.
ok, so the whole discussion on adult content is now academic! just wondering though why it took 3 days, 4 pages, and the odd complete feckin' rant before someone deigned to inform us of a change to the AUP, that would have left us wide open to a ban had we unwittingly breached it? dunno would it not be common courtesy to inform us properly of site wide policy changes as and when they happen, so that we don't have to read the AUP in it's entirety every single time we log in before we even think about making a post?
still, thanks for the clarification st3v3. think we all know exactly where the site stands now on the whole "adult content" issue don't we? nothing commercial behind it, it's purely legal reasons re: child protection! righto then, i'll take your word for it and leave it at that! ;)
neil x x x ;)
Quote by neilinleeds
ok, so the whole discussion on adult content is now academic! just wondering though why it took 3 days, 4 pages, and the odd complete feckin' rant before someone deigned to inform us of a change to the AUP, that would have left us wide open to a ban had we unwittingly breached it? dunno would it not be common courtesy to inform us properly of site wide policy changes as and when they happen, so that we don't have to read the AUP in it's entirety every single time we log in before we even think about making a post?
still, thanks for the clarification st3v3. think we all know exactly where the site stands now on the whole "adult content" issue don't we? nothing commercial behind it, it's purely legal reasons re: child protection! righto then, i'll take your word for it and leave it at that! ;)
neil x x x ;)

I refer you to what I said earlyer in this thread, you would almost think that there was a reason for that wouldnt you? ......... but then ?????? :twisted: some have eyes, some have ears, and some have intuition, if only all three would work together, what a team we would have! quote by Millán Astray commander of the forign legeion, 1875
As most of you know I'm no good at long big words and paragraphs.
But
I am glad I removed, my shower pics, sign post pics and my web page that was attached to my signature.............
I'm sure most of the pics would have been the wrong side of the AUP now or they would have been covered in blurs, fuzzers or that woman as a sticker on my body!
Quote by Sarah
I'm sure most of the pics would have been the wrong side of the AUP now or they would have been covered in blurs, fuzzers or that woman as a sticker on my body!

Good point.
Just how "entertaining" is this ..............................
Oiii
I took that pic of you, (dodging the vanillas as I did it!!)
and now that woman is in the way of the best bit!!
:P
Quote by Sarah
Oiii
I took that pic of you, (dodging the vanillas as I did it!!)

The 4T were there ??????????????????????????? :shock:
Quote by Sarah
and now that woman is in the way of the best bit!!
:P

I think Mary Whitehouse will be the next mod appointed rolleyes
I'm sure most of the pics would have been the wrong side of the AUP now or they would have been covered in blurs, fuzzers or that woman as a sticker on my body!

Did you mean this one ??
Yep that's the one...............although there are several from that photo shoot, but I think enough stickers on me.............but should the butterfly have one? as you can just see it lol
:P
Quote by dambuster
I think Mary Whitehouse will be the next mod appointed rolleyes
I'm sure most of the pics would have been the wrong side of the AUP now or they would have been covered in blurs, fuzzers or that woman as a sticker on my body!

Did you mean this one ??

:shock: :shock: :shock:
:eeek: :eeek: :eeek:
well i never . . . in all my years . . . . that's pure fecxkin' filth that is! you ought to be ASHAMED! mad
posting pics of Mary Whitehouse! you've put me right off me dinner you have! :x
rotflmao :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
bad dambuster, bad! smackbottom
neil x x x ;)
Quote by neilinleeds
I think Mary Whitehouse will be the next mod appointed rolleyes
I'm sure most of the pics would have been the wrong side of the AUP now or they would have been covered in blurs, fuzzers or that woman as a sticker on my body!

Did you mean this one ??

:shock: :shock: :shock:
:eeek: :eeek: :eeek:
well i never . . . in all my years . . . . that's pure fecxkin' filth that is! you ought to be ASHAMED! mad
rotflmao :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
bad dambuster, bad! smackbottom
neil x x x ;)
He should be very ashamed, taking Mary Whitehouse into the shower with them, poor womans been dead for ages :shock:
Quote by Naughty Wigan Couple
He should be very ashamed, taking Mary Whitehouse into the shower with them, poor womans been dead for ages :shock:

Take Mary Whitehouse into the shower ??????
Not me . I just two horny blondes and go ! !
Where did the Mary Whitehouse thingies come from ???
Sam xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Quote by Martin_M
In view of recent press saying "from an official source at swinging heaven" you could find that your opinions on this subject end up in one of the main rags or on TV.

Fucking Excellent! biggrin
:bounce:
Harry Hill shouldn't be allowed on the telly as his is a wanker! So are most Americans - at least they would be if their ego didn't constantly put them off balance!
The National Anthem should be changed to Queen - don't stop me know.
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People who get overly sweaty, in a smelly way, should be banned from swinging clubs!
Big feet does NOT mean a big cock!
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Bring back Golden Nuggets!
If you think swinging sites are filled with people who have no morals - take a look on Messenger. Total fucking strangers who don't know who you are, what you are, what you do or anything else for that matter, message you and ask 2 fucking questions... "asl?" "are you up for it?". Go on Mr Media, log on as a female on Messenger and see how long it takes the scum-buckets of your perfectly moral-coded vanilla society to start hitting on you!
I eagerly await seeing these official opinions stated as fact by the media. :grin:
worship :worship: :worship: :worship:
Quote by PoloLady
If you think swinging sites are filled with people who have no morals - take a look on Messenger. Total fucking strangers who don't know who you are, what you are, what you do or anything else for that matter, message you and ask 2 fucking questions... "asl?" "are you up for it?". Go on Mr Media, log on as a female on Messenger and see how long it takes the scum-buckets of your perfectly moral-coded vanilla society to start hitting on you!

absolutely true! messenger is the root of all evil if you ask me! well said polo lady :thumbup:
Quote by sexkittenhfx

If you think swinging sites are filled with people who have no morals - take a look on Messenger. Total fucking strangers who don't know who you are, what you are, what you do or anything else for that matter, message you and ask 2 fucking questions... "asl?" "are you up for it?". Go on Mr Media, log on as a female on Messenger and see how long it takes the scum-buckets of your perfectly moral-coded vanilla society to start hitting on you!

absolutely true! messenger is the root of all evil if you ask me! well said polo lady :thumbup:
Try pool :shock: people wanna chat you up whilst smacking thier balls around.
Mr Tweeky
brilliant polo lady ,
so this messenger is the route of all evil is it, :twisted:
staggy
Quote by wild rose and the stag
so this messenger is the route of all evil is it, :twisted:

yes it is and no of course i dont love it............ rolleyes
My last words (hopefully) are actually someone else's.
Quote by someone that sent me this
once upon a time there was a dream, the man who had the dream was called king Marcus , he dreamed of giving part of his kingdom to his friends and their friends , to live in or just come and go as they pleased, so he did simple really.........
king Marcus was a generous man and loved to see his family grow and smile around him, people would come to his kingdom and stay a while then leave others would come and set up home there , it was a sight to behold , king Marcus sat back and was happy , every now and again king Marcus would see that an unruly person would pop in, get too drunk on the free wine, upsetting the utopia he had created, so king Marcus decided the land needed a government to make laws and enforce them, he asked the people there who wanted to be in his government , some said "i will" others sat back and said "no not me I'm happy as i am", the government made rules , sensible rules that stopped naughty people spoiling all the fun of the residents and new visitors to this paradise , every thing was fine .
The people would laze around soaking up the sun, play loud music if they wanted and dance , sit back and sleep on the grass, walk in the middle of the road holding hands or zoom along in large 4 wheel drives cars, no one ever complained and everyone accepted each other for what they were without question, king Marcus sat back in his palace and relaxed his work was done.
Nearby there was a country very different to king Marcus's a country where people raced around taking what they could , pushing others aside to achieve their aims , a country filled with spite , uncaring and greed, the men who ran that country saw an opportunity was to be had , they went to see king Marcus , 2we will make you an offer you cant refuse king Marcus" they said," we want to run your kingdom, we want your people to be happier , we know what will make them happier ", the king sat back , he had invested all of his time and money into this place , he needed to get something back , it was an offer he could not refuse , he toiled with this for many days but eventually gave in, "OK" he said , "run my kingdom" , as soon as they could the new men moved into his palace , they threw the old king out and sent him to live on a little island far away and told him never to return, the king was sad but what could he do?
the people of the kingdom were told what had happened they were frightened , upset ,annoyed and confused , the new emperor spoke "do not worry we will look after all your needs now , you just carry on while we make a few changes round here , all for your own good of course",
the government held talks secretly , "what do we do? we are here to serve our friends and help our king, the king has been overthrown by invaders , they've asked us to help them but they dictate new laws we don't think the people will like" , some of the government were happy , some said we will see how things go for the good of the people , other members of the governemnt feared the worst and said they wanted no part of this dictatorship and left, some of the government became unruly , they I'm afraid were treated in a way i do not wish to discuss ,
the people looked to the government for help but it did not come , those that truly cared for the people had left or been got ridden of, the others were helpless anyway , if they dared to speak up they would have been treated the same , anyway they liked the power they had and the respect it gave them.......
new laws were created , a small charge was made to use the swimming pools , a tax was placed on the drinks at the bar, people had to walk on pavements , "keep off the grass!" signs were posted everywhere , little by little the kingdom changed , new visitors came along , enticed in with promises of fun and friendship, the new people needed assurances but they looked at the kingdom and saw all the decent people there and said "we want that too", the people of the kingdom still didn't know what to do, they were offered incentives to stay the emperor said "you can have free drinks for a year and the swimming pools are free too, just for a year though then we will review things, why don't you help us settle in the new comers, embrace them for they are paying for all your freebies ", some of the people decided to give it a try , some left went to other far off lands most stayed they knew things weren't right but their fear of the unknown was far too great to leave , they had been so happy things couldn't be all that bad could they? every now and again the government spoke of new rules , little changes , sometimes people were asked to leave for odd reasons , sometimes people just disappeared, the drinks would be changed to a different brand , sometimes better, sometimes not as good , the people weren't used to this they had always had what they wanted in the kingdom of Marcus , they were watched by a new kind of police the old government were there but they had spies around the bars and on the borders, even in the locker rooms of the swimming pools, the people couldn't understand how their government had gone from protecting them to policing them almost overnight , were the government so scared of the new dictators regime or were they so caught up with the new rulers that they had forgot why they had come to power in the first place,
to serve their friends and help them grow the kingdom into the garden of Eden it had become ,
no one knew why they served the dictators so loyally or why they served them at all, these people were the sisters and brothers of the family that had been left in turmoil following the coup that had taken place, yet they helped the newcomers take over, families fell out and the love in the kingdom started to subside , as winter approached there were so many new people that the few that had helped make the kingdom great were lost within the many , they sat back and saw a change had taken place , the families had been replaced with business men in suits , the understanding and compassion had been replaced with greed and spite , queue jumping had started at the swimming pools, "Ive paid good money when do i get to swim", "I'm not waiting i want to jump right in", this became the story across the country , the few that had stood up and questioned in a reasonable manner packed their few belongings and headed for the borders , their heads held low and , sad faces and the odd tear ,the cities that once gleamed poured out smoke and left a haze on the skyline , a huge dark shadow was cast across the country but the new people had still got the tales of how great the kingdom had once been , a country that once relied on word of mouth had the power of advertising , the new wealth was spent on billboards and television campaigns to keep the tourists coming in, they needed to because as soon as they arrived and didn't find their own personal pot of gold they left, not before paying thirty pieces of silver to the emperor and his minders, the palace was falling apart, the grass was full of weeds, the water no longer pure and ....
I look back at what was once my home with a tear in my eye as i pass the border guards and secret police checks for the last time and sign out of my own persoanl heaven .....
tell my friends how i feel im just one of them, my brothers and sisters ,my government has let me down ,my king let me down, even some of my friends let me down, but for what
thirty peices of silver and a pat on the back !