I'm here again! Wow, quite a reaction to that one.. Sorry for annoying people, that's not what I'm here to do....
I'll have to keep nipping back and reading your replies - you've made too many points for me to answer them all just off my head!
The reason I named the venue last time was due to a misunderstanding of a PM I recieved from KitKat on 23March at 4:13pm - was gonna quote here but I don't want to quote private messages.. Hopefully being mods you can see that message? If not and Kat OK's it I can send you a copy? Hope you can see where the confusion came from on that point now?
Mal, the post was 'locked' when I got back from the event last time - so nobody else could place comments on there either. Most of the interest I received came through Email rather than PM - the same is true this time.
Steve, I agree that to join and then straight away organise an event doesn't generate credibility - but I did give the venue details, phone number, contacts etc and offer to take pics of the venue inside and out - I hadn't been a member long but had been visiting the site some time - My interest here spurned from dogging initially. The reason I contacted other mods besides Kat was that she said this wasn't her neck of the woods - I saw there were other mods closer.
What I actually said about limiting sibgle males was this - that if it gets too popular in future, we may have to restrict the number of single blokes coming in favour of couples - limit if it's full that is. Remember I'm a dogger and with that background you expect to see 20 single blokes for every couple...
Yeah, I know I jumped in feet first - but with the best intentions. I thought I was well placed to organise something like this and could do SH a service. The reason I lose out from arranging is because I'm taking a night off from my usual DJing spot, I'm not daft enough to lose out on hundereds of pounds don't get me wrong! If that was the case then I would attend your munches instead of organising one around this area of course!
Steve, sorry if you did know a high % of people personally who came to your last munch - I didn't think that'd be the case.
I did think it necessary to contact the mods often last time about the arrangements so as not to do something wrong unintentionally and have you pull the rug from under my feet due to a misunderstanding - which is what did actually happen in the end...
Hope you can see where the misunderstanding came from now anyway? Like I said, I won't quote here...
John.
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Thanx again Upforit - and no offence taken Angelchat...
Let's put things straight then..... I'm quite NARKED about all this as you'll see when you read this! The questions I pose are not directed at anyone in particular. Here goes, first I'll answer Angelchat's questions:
number of people who came last time was about 30, soz if i missed a zero there...
lack of feedback may well have had something to do with the mod's of SH freezing the thread so no more comments could be made on that post... Here's what hapened:
It took me ages last time to convince the mods that I / the event was for real. That whiled away around a week of the notice I would've given. Then I was getting mixed messages from the various mods on what I was allowed to put on the post - Don't get me wrong I'm gratefull for them to have allowed it at all... Still confusing though when one says one thing and another mod says something else. Anyway, I was asking lots of questions and being very wary of what the correct protocol was - I didn't want to piss anyone off from SH... A few days before the date of the event, in the confusion or put it down to a misunderstanding whatever - I put the details of the venue, address etc, on the post... Apparently a BIG no no that! I would never have done it unless I thought it'd been cleared by the mods, obvioulsly I didn't want it deleting eh? I believed that - because I had arranged security, we could put the full details of the venue, date etc, on the post. I believed this due to a misunderstanding / interpretation of a reply from a mod.
3. I first PM'd a mod about this event about 3 weeks ago - seems a lack of interest there then?
I've written to the mods about the above points too. It's not that I don't appreciate what they did for my event last time on the run up to the event - I'm gratefull for that. It's more like I reckon they should get their heads together and come up with some solid rules. As for not allowing me to post this event under 'lets meet up' this time seems petty and completely against what you'd've thought this site was trying to promote. I wouldn't make the mistake of naming the place again anyway eh? (Wonder if they ever have munches in the same place twice then- After the 1st, won't word get around anyway??) Seems very 'clicky' to me - even though they told me we couldn't restrict anyone to the sort of meet I proposed. Hypocritical too then? I also find it marvellous that there's a sticky for the 'NorthWest' munch, arranged by a mod, attended by loads of people from far & wide (and read by 9000+ by now). One of the points against me before was that I hadn't been a mamber of SH long, therefore I was unknown and therefore mistrusted. Just makes me wonder if all the people who attend the NW munch know the organisers then? And how well having read a few posts on here? What so like it's - he must be OK, does lots of writing on SH... does it really work like that? As far as I'm concerned I've proved that I'm for real and that this event is for real. Anyone can come look at the venue etc, it did occur last time, I have phone numbers if the mods would like to check it out - in fact they've allready got them... Would've thought Yorkshire, in the middle of the country, would be better placed to serve more people than the NorthWest? How do you get credibility on this site? Or do others have to get over themselves first? I've lost a lot of faith in SH. How much more real do you want me to be about this... I'm a pro dj with experience of making other good club nights / various events run smoothly. I know a lot of people who own / manage clubs. I know one in particular that's in a great spot for a meeting. I know qualified bouncers etc - I know bouncers into the scene, I know the manager of the venue in the great spot is willing and into the scene. It's a nice place, ideally suited - few miles from the A1.. What more do they want? Are they acting in the best interest of SH members by being like this?
The Yorkshire meet will take place as posted - Re read the top of this page you're looking at to find details (the link will take you to the photo ads clubs and parties section and to my ad there) - If it's crap now, If it turns out to be a failure, If the manager stops us having future meets in the venue - I won't be blaming myself for the loss of what could be a good meeting night for swingers. Why the hell arn't they happy and doing a lot more to help me here?
Slightly aerated & irate....
John.
Thanx again Upforit - and no offence taken Angelchat...
Let's put things straight then..... I'm quite NARKED about all this as you'll see when you read this! The questions I pose are not directed at anyone in particular. Here goes, first I'll answer Angelchat's questions:
number of people who came last time was about 30, soz if i missed a zero there...
lack of feedback may well have had something to do with the mod's of SH freezing the thread so no more comments could be made on that post... Here's what hapened:
It took me ages last time to convince the mods that I / the event was for real. That whiled away around a week of the notice I would've given. Then I was getting mixed messages from the various mods on what I was allowed to put on the post - Don't get me wrong I'm gratefull for them to have allowed it at all... Still confusing though when one says one thing and another mod says something else. Anyway, I was asking lots of questions and being very wary of what the correct protocol was - I didn't want to piss anyone off from SH... A few days before the date of the event, in the confusion or put it down to a misunderstanding whatever - I put the details of the venue, address etc, on the post... Apparently a BIG no no that! I would never have done it unless I thought it'd been cleared by the mods, obvioulsly I didn't want it deleting eh? I believed that - because I had arranged security, we could put the full details of the venue, date etc, on the post. I believed this due to a misunderstanding / interpretation of a reply from a mod.
3. I first PM'd a mod about this event about 3 weeks ago - seems a lack of interest there then?
I've written to the mods about the above points too. It's not that I don't appreciate what they did for my event last time on the run up to the event - I'm gratefull for that. It's more like I reckon they should get their heads together and come up with some solid rules. As for not allowing me to post this event under 'lets meet up' this time seems petty and completely against what you'd've thought this site was trying to promote. I wouldn't make the mistake of naming the place again anyway eh? (Wonder if they ever have munches in the same place twice then- After the 1st, won't word get around anyway??) Seems very 'clicky' to me - even though they told me we couldn't restrict anyone to the sort of meet I proposed. Hypocritical too then? I also find it marvellous that there's a sticky for the 'NorthWest' munch, arranged by a mod, attended by loads of people from far & wide (and read by 9000+ by now). One of the points against me before was that I hadn't been a mamber of SH long, therefore I was unknown and therefore mistrusted. Just makes me wonder if all the people who attend the NW munch know the organisers then? And how well having read a few posts on here? What so like it's - he must be OK, does lots of writing on SH... does it really work like that? As far as I'm concerned I've proved that I'm for real and that this event is for real. Anyone can come look at the venue etc, it did occur last time, I have phone numbers if the mods would like to check it out - in fact they've allready got them... Would've thought Yorkshire, in the middle of the country, would be better placed to serve more people than the NorthWest? How do you get credibility on this site? Or do others have to get over themselves first? I've lost a lot of faith in SH. How much more real do you want me to be about this... I'm a pro dj with experience of making other good club nights / various events run smoothly. I know a lot of people who own / manage clubs. I know one in particular that's in a great spot for a meeting. I know qualified bouncers etc - I know bouncers into the scene, I know the manager of the venue in the great spot is willing and into the scene. It's a nice place, ideally suited - few miles from the A1.. What more do they want? Are they acting in the best interest of SH members by being like this?
The Yorkshire meet will take place as posted - Re read the top of this page you're looking at to find details (the link will take you to the photo ads clubs and parties section and to my ad there) - If it's crap now, If it turns out to be a failure, If the manager stops us having future meets in the venue - I won't be blaming myself for the loss of what could be a good meeting night for swingers. Why the hell arn't they happy and doing a lot more to help me here?
Slightly aerated & irate....
John.
Hiya - any couples / females dogging tonight around Yorkshire / Nottinghamshire or anywhere inbetween - Fancy leeting me know so we can meet? Single straight guy, 29, mr average, loves to pleasure etc, very easy going. I'd love to hear from you!
Please contact me either by PM or Email - A phone number would be nice in your mail too!
Thanx a lot,
John.
Please contact me either by PM or Email - A phone number would be nice in your mail too!
Thanx a lot,
John.
Hiya - I'm John, 29, from Yorkshire.
I'm looking to meet a girl ASAP today for some fun - i'm not pushy, if you don't want to do anything when you've seen me that'll be fine, but I'm not bad! Average looks etc. I'm quite straight laced when it comes to sex, but love to pleasure a girl - got some nice techniques you'll enjoy ;)
Hope to hear from you ASAP,
Please Email me or PM me on here and I'll get back to you.
John xxx
I'm looking to meet a girl ASAP today for some fun - i'm not pushy, if you don't want to do anything when you've seen me that'll be fine, but I'm not bad! Average looks etc. I'm quite straight laced when it comes to sex, but love to pleasure a girl - got some nice techniques you'll enjoy ;)
Hope to hear from you ASAP,
Please Email me or PM me on here and I'll get back to you.
John xxx
For full details - you need to look under 'photo ads' then 'clubs and parties' then click on'big yorkshire meet' - See the link here: http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/photo-adverts/swingers-80454.html
This will be the 2nd Yorkshire meeting we've had - hope to build on the success of the last one!
You're all welcome to come along - last time we had lots of newbies and some experienced swingers.
It's all pre-arranged, free to get in etc, normal price pub drinks. there's a disco and quiet areas to talk too - great night last time!
For full details - you need to look under 'photo ads' then 'clubs and parties' then click on'big yorkshire meet' - Here's the link: http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/photo-adverts/swingers-80454.html
Hope to see you there with plenty others!
John
This will be the 2nd Yorkshire meeting we've had - hope to build on the success of the last one!
You're all welcome to come along - last time we had lots of newbies and some experienced swingers.
It's all pre-arranged, free to get in etc, normal price pub drinks. there's a disco and quiet areas to talk too - great night last time!
For full details - you need to look under 'photo ads' then 'clubs and parties' then click on'big yorkshire meet' - Here's the link: http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/photo-adverts/swingers-80454.html
Hope to see you there with plenty others!
John
Hi, I'm John, 29, from W. Yorks. I'm looking for a girl to meet Saturday evening / night for some fun.. I'm Mr Average really, not bad looking, easy going, very friendly - I love pleasuring a sexy girl, very good at it too ;)
Any takers?
PM or Email me
Thanx for reading - I promise not to disappoint!
John xxx
Any takers?
PM or Email me
Thanx for reading - I promise not to disappoint!
John xxx
Hi Girls,
I'm John, 29, Mr Average.... (ahem) - In most ways!
I'm looking for a girl to meet later tonight in Pontefract / Doncaster or surrounding areas.
I'm easy going, friendly, not bad looking - very easy to get on with, I'm not pushy or scary!
If you fancy meeting up with me later tonight, please get back to me - either by PM on here or Email me at
I'm willing to pick you up or meet you somewhere - I'm working until 11:30pm so it'll have to be after that time.
Bit more about me then? I'm white, 5ft10inch, medium / stocky build, short chestnut hair, brown eyes, gsoh, intelligent, clean etc.
If you'd like to check me out annonymously - I'm the DJ at The Park (club) South ELmsall tonight (Friday) - come along and have a look, I won't know who you are hehehe! There's a band on also tonight so if you liked me you could say hello and we'd have time to chat before I finish work.... Or you could just leave a message on here saying you're up for it or whatever if you don't fancy coming through....
Hope to hear from you,
John xxx
I'm John, 29, Mr Average.... (ahem) - In most ways!
I'm looking for a girl to meet later tonight in Pontefract / Doncaster or surrounding areas.
I'm easy going, friendly, not bad looking - very easy to get on with, I'm not pushy or scary!
If you fancy meeting up with me later tonight, please get back to me - either by PM on here or Email me at
I'm willing to pick you up or meet you somewhere - I'm working until 11:30pm so it'll have to be after that time.
Bit more about me then? I'm white, 5ft10inch, medium / stocky build, short chestnut hair, brown eyes, gsoh, intelligent, clean etc.
If you'd like to check me out annonymously - I'm the DJ at The Park (club) South ELmsall tonight (Friday) - come along and have a look, I won't know who you are hehehe! There's a band on also tonight so if you liked me you could say hello and we'd have time to chat before I finish work.... Or you could just leave a message on here saying you're up for it or whatever if you don't fancy coming through....
Hope to hear from you,
John xxx
Fri, 30th April, 7pm - 11pm
Look under photo ads then under clubs & parties, you'll see the ad with details there!
ps. free entry etc, the only way to know about the event will be through swinging heaven.
Relaxed, friendly atmosphere promoted, come and feel at ease!
2nd time we've arranged a meet in this venue - 1st was great!
Look under photo ads then under clubs & parties, you'll see the ad with details there!
ps. free entry etc, the only way to know about the event will be through swinging heaven.
Relaxed, friendly atmosphere promoted, come and feel at ease!
2nd time we've arranged a meet in this venue - 1st was great!
Sorry, I'm here now!
Ok - yeah the last munch - It did happen, went OK, bit quieter than I'd have liked but we all enjoyed it. I made the mistake of posting full details on the forum (after a misunderstanding with the moderators) so the post was 'locked' so no more comments could be made under that heading. It did go ahead, had a few comments from people who came before the post was locked and a few people started there own threads about it too. There's no set date as yet for the next one - but would you be interested? Would've thought my cred to have gone up a lot since last time too!
John
Ok - yeah the last munch - It did happen, went OK, bit quieter than I'd have liked but we all enjoyed it. I made the mistake of posting full details on the forum (after a misunderstanding with the moderators) so the post was 'locked' so no more comments could be made under that heading. It did go ahead, had a few comments from people who came before the post was locked and a few people started there own threads about it too. There's no set date as yet for the next one - but would you be interested? Would've thought my cred to have gone up a lot since last time too!
John
Hiya, This is John - I arranged the last Yorkshire Munch which turned out quite nicely!
Was wondering if anyone woulld be interested in another one? Open to all - If you just register your interest on here with me when the time comes - Look out for the post... It might be on 'lets meet up' or maybe on 'clubs & parties'
If you've come so far as to read this, please take the trouble to tick a box on the poll !!!
John
Was wondering if anyone woulld be interested in another one? Open to all - If you just register your interest on here with me when the time comes - Look out for the post... It might be on 'lets meet up' or maybe on 'clubs & parties'
If you've come so far as to read this, please take the trouble to tick a box on the poll !!!
John
Hey I'd love to live in cornwall - spent alot of time down there in the past, and worked in newquay a bit DJing too. Love it down there... But I'm afraid I'm stuck up here in Yorkshire as I'm divorced and have 2 kids to see regularly.
The munch went fine like I said - just one problem! I misunderstood some of the posts from the moderators on here and posted full details of the time and place on the forum
Was a genuine balls-up, but trying to convince them to let me arrange another one! As it happens there were no problems at all anyway...
I'm defintely up for arranging another one for in maybe 3 weeks time - I just think it'd be more suitable to place under 'lets meet up' than under 'clubs and parties' - What do you think?
The munch went fine like I said - just one problem! I misunderstood some of the posts from the moderators on here and posted full details of the time and place on the forum
Was a genuine balls-up, but trying to convince them to let me arrange another one! As it happens there were no problems at all anyway... I'm defintely up for arranging another one for in maybe 3 weeks time - I just think it'd be more suitable to place under 'lets meet up' than under 'clubs and parties' - What do you think?
Quote by upforit
Firstly thanks alpha for a great night....
great to meet you ....can't wait till next meet up nice choice of place as well...pub was lovely and as you promised no-one knew why we where there
As newcomers we were eased in and the nerves soon disapeared
anyway see you soon matey!And now the nerves are gone!!!
Thanks D & S - Enjoyed talking to you both too.
Phew! Went OK eh? I wish a few more of those that said they were gonna turn up actually did do, but I suppose next time we could make it on a Friday - The manager's wanting to arrange another one in only a few weeks time! I'll find out the date tomorrow from him and then see if i can get it posted on here again. Thanx for turning up and getting the ball rolliing!
Let's keep in touch eh?
John.
How more clear can I make it?
We're not restricting anybody for this first one at the Park tomorrow (Thursday 1st) ! Everyone is welcome!
We may have to restrict single males in favour of couples in the future if we get overun - It's a matter of capacity in the venue... We'd rather see a more even balance of males / females in the club - Single females wouldn't be a problem and would still be allowed in even if this happens because we will always get some single males coming anyway and the numbers of single females turning up would - as you would expect - be only a fraction of the number of single males. We wouldn't put a blanket ban on single males coming, it'd be a matter of 1st come 1st served and if we need to do this in future full details would be included on the post about that.
If this is not your idea of a munch as defined by SH then so be it - But can you see the sense in this? I really can't see it coming to this anyway as The Park will accomodate 350 people.
We're not restricting anybody for this first one at the Park tomorrow (Thursday 1st) ! Everyone is welcome!
John
We're not restricting anybody for this first one at the Park tomorrow (Thursday 1st) ! Everyone is welcome!
We may have to restrict single males in favour of couples in the future if we get overun - It's a matter of capacity in the venue... We'd rather see a more even balance of males / females in the club - Single females wouldn't be a problem and would still be allowed in even if this happens because we will always get some single males coming anyway and the numbers of single females turning up would - as you would expect - be only a fraction of the number of single males. We wouldn't put a blanket ban on single males coming, it'd be a matter of 1st come 1st served and if we need to do this in future full details would be included on the post about that.
If this is not your idea of a munch as defined by SH then so be it - But can you see the sense in this? I really can't see it coming to this anyway as The Park will accomodate 350 people.
We're not restricting anybody for this first one at the Park tomorrow (Thursday 1st) ! Everyone is welcome!
John
Thanx for reading this,
Looking to meet up with a couple or single women wednesday through the day - Any offers?
Also tips required for good daytime dogging locations - I'll reply with my tips etc
Hope to hear from you,
John
p.s. Yorkshire Munch this Thursday night near Doncaster - lot of interest now, read the post under 'lets meet up' , 'yorkshire munch @ the park'
John
Looking to meet up with a couple or single women wednesday through the day - Any offers?
Also tips required for good daytime dogging locations - I'll reply with my tips etc
Hope to hear from you,
John
p.s. Yorkshire Munch this Thursday night near Doncaster - lot of interest now, read the post under 'lets meet up' , 'yorkshire munch @ the park'
John
Here's a copy of a reply I gave to a few couples who're coming on Thursday asking about what it should be like....
Hiya, thanks for your interest....
We've had quite a few couples / people asking the same questions - On these events there's always someone new to or interested in the scene but inexperienced just as you are so you won't be the only newbies threre! You can dress however you like, yes jeans will be fine! Although some people may dress sexily I expect most people will dress casual / smart casual just like you would for a normal night out. There's no special password on the door, justy walk in - but if you're asked just say you've come for the company function / works do. You can talk to other people with the same interest in a relaxed environment, there's no pressure to do anything and you should find people you talk to are friendly. The point of the function is to be like a general meeting of like minded people, discuss things, ask questions, arrange meetings etc if you like but you won't be under pressure to, we DO have a few coming who'll no doubt want to strutt their stuff a bit but unless you give off any come-on signals you should be left alone by them!
Hope this explains things a bit more to you?
John
Hiya, thanks for your interest....
We've had quite a few couples / people asking the same questions - On these events there's always someone new to or interested in the scene but inexperienced just as you are so you won't be the only newbies threre! You can dress however you like, yes jeans will be fine! Although some people may dress sexily I expect most people will dress casual / smart casual just like you would for a normal night out. There's no special password on the door, justy walk in - but if you're asked just say you've come for the company function / works do. You can talk to other people with the same interest in a relaxed environment, there's no pressure to do anything and you should find people you talk to are friendly. The point of the function is to be like a general meeting of like minded people, discuss things, ask questions, arrange meetings etc if you like but you won't be under pressure to, we DO have a few coming who'll no doubt want to strutt their stuff a bit but unless you give off any come-on signals you should be left alone by them!
Hope this explains things a bit more to you?
John
Calling Kev & Tracy from donny dogging tonight - Thanx a lot, you out Wed night like we said? If you can't make it I'll see you Thursday at Yorks Munch eh? What did you say the girl was called who I know? Have you asked her if she's coming yet? Please PM / email or phone me when you read this - Don't wanna fone u now and poss. wake u up - or interrupt something private John
p.s Apologies to the moderators for posting this same message on the cafe forum 1st by mistake
p.s Apologies to the moderators for posting this same message on the cafe forum 1st by mistake
I'm hoping you're for real about this girls...
If you are I'm definitely up for it! Can you please send me details on this? Email or PM me,
I'm having trouble with some ppl on here too not believing me about what I'm arranging - I'd like to invite you both to my meeting night - I'm sure you'll enjoy it! It's on 'Let's Meet Up' forum under 'Yorkshire Munch' - Try and come, it's gonna be an excellent night going on the feedback I'm getting...
p.s. Did you get my PM with my description?
John,
xxxxx
If you are I'm definitely up for it! Can you please send me details on this? Email or PM me,
I'm having trouble with some ppl on here too not believing me about what I'm arranging - I'd like to invite you both to my meeting night - I'm sure you'll enjoy it! It's on 'Let's Meet Up' forum under 'Yorkshire Munch' - Try and come, it's gonna be an excellent night going on the feedback I'm getting...
p.s. Did you get my PM with my description?
John,
xxxxx