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Quote by deancannock
So lets get this right...as unemployment has risen to a 17 year high....you think things are looking Up ????? As per Max link...it seems that the majority of jobs being created are part time ones !!! the amount of people now in part time work, is a the highest level ever recorded since records began !!!!
Now don't get me wrong I welcome the increase in workers being taken on at Nissan and Jaguar....I welcome the new jobs being created by Mcdonalds....but this does not outweigh the jobs being lost. We need to do more, a damn sight more to stimulate the economy. I honestly think the economy bottomed out about 2 years ago, and continues to bump along the bottom. I see no improvement, and as it stands, can not see where that improvemnet is going to come from.

This just could be the beginning of the up dunno
I think it is important to focus on the good things, too much talking the economy down and that is just what it will do :sad:
Quote by Geordiecpl2001
Caravanning and camping have risen in popularity becuase a lot of people cannot afford to go abroad anymore.
J & S

I do not think that is necessarily true, Caravaning and camping has had several big boost's over the last few years. One was the Twin Towers being attacked, also other terrorist activities and others issues like the ash cloud.
Many of the people who are buying new caravans now are of an older generation who have savings. Many have said, as there saving's are not earning very much interest so they may as well spend the money on a new caravan and enjoy them selves.
New caravan's are not cheap and the annual upkeep is not cheap either. Many camp sites are not cheap to stay on either.
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I am actually a big lover of foxes, with a passion

especially when you watch the pack rip it to pieces eh bluefish fliparotflmao
Never seen it, I dont ride a horse wink
Quote by NEEDFORFUN
possibly, the reason for the upturn in urban foxes is because rural folk have stopped allowing them to scavenge so they have gone for an easy source of food. i.e moved into town because of the abundance of half eaten chinese, macs or what ever that we throw away. much the same as the ( don't laugh ) urban population of kites that are around.
if you go to our local kfc, there are three pairs that thrive on the chicken that people throw on the pavement. i am anti fox as they don't just kill to eat. they kill all they can in the hope of coming back for the rest later, but you can't blame them for gaining an easy meal.

I am actually a big lover of foxes, with a passion
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Or you could just stop using it altogether and spend some time in the forums getting to know us all more intimately! :twisted:
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Caravan sales at an all time high;
It is believed that last year sales of caravans and camping equipment reached an all time high. The contribution of two billion pounds to the UK economy can be seen as part of the increased popularity of caravan and camping holidays. Now the nation’s favourite holiday pastime; research has also highlighted a perceived link between camping and caravan holidays with the benefits of healthy living.
It is believed that each day camping and caravan holidaymakers spend almost thirty pounds. Included in this figure is petrol, food and drink sales and when considered that there are around seventeen million caravan and camping holidays being made each year this figure is considerable.
Although this does not include pitch sales and fees; it is estimated that if it did the figure would be closer to fifty pounds a day. Considering that pitch fees are used to develop sites and employ local residents the contribution to local economies is also vast.
A survey has further detailed caravan and camping holiday spending. It is believed that fifty seven percent of holidaymakers spent their money in pubs while almost the same number spent money in local eateries. UK tourist attractions have also benefited in terms of ticket sales with almost seventy percent visiting a variety of attractions regularly. An outstanding eighty five percent of camping and caravan tourists walked to their destination highlighting the benefits to the environment this type of holiday has.
Of the seventeen million caravan and camping holidays taking place annually the average stay is estimated to be four days. Over these four days the amount poured into local economies through food and drink sales as well as entry to local attractions is believed to be one of the major factors bolstering rural incomes. Without this steady stream of holidaymakers it can be surmised that the large contribution in many rural economies is a vital element in their survival.
Campers rather than those staying in a caravan are believed to be even more likely to add to local economies. Because of a lack of facilities and storage when tent camping, shops and restaurants around campsites make more sales of subsistence products than those near caravan parks. With the popularity of this type of holiday growing rapidly rural economies will benefit further.
In terms of the supposed link between camping and caravan holidays and a healthier lifestyle the supposition seems to hold water. A survey used data from the general public as well as regular camping and caravan holidaymakers; it found that ninety seven percent of those who camped or caravanned regularly felt that being outdoors had a positive impact on their lives. The research also found that campers and caravanners were more likely to undertake activities such as walking, swimming and cycling than members of the general public.
Comment on the research has stated that it demonstrates what camping and caravan holidaymakers had believed for years. The contribution to the local economy through food and drink sales and local services keeps rural economies alive and provides jobs for those in the localities. The research also showed that campers and caravaners are driven by a desire to explore new places, visit attractions and sample local food.
Camping and caravan holidays are fundamentally about spending time in the marvellous British countryside, so the link between these types of holidays and a healthier lifestyle is unsurprising. This type of holiday not only provides freedom and choice but is also part of a healthy lifestyle. As a result there is little wonder that sales of tents and caravans are skyrocketing as more people try to join the hoards seeking this lifestyle choice.

New building every where we look;
Poundbury is a thriving new urban development on the outskirts of Dorchester, West Dorset. It was designed by the Prince of Wales who outlined his pioneering ideas in his 1989 book, ‘A Vision of Britain’.
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The new IM chat thing at the bottom right says we're offline. But we're here and logged on. It didn't say it earlier. Have I been technocrap?
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This is the kind of good news enjoy reading lol
FARMS across the area are being encouraged to help youngsters learn about life on the farm.
A new series of grants are being made available to help provide the facilities needed so farms can host educational school visits.
They are being offered through the Higher Level Stewardships scheme (HLS) to improve visitor access to farms such as classrooms, washroom facilities and access furniture such as kissing gates.
Successful applicants will also be eligible for an annual base payment and revenue payments for up to 25 educational visits per year.
There are currently over 60 farmers in Yorkshire supplementing their income by offering educational visits

Quote by starlightcouple
i am ok bluefish with gay civil partnerships. i am not ok with gay marriage. i am very much against what i know will be forced on peeple to accept something that goes completely against there faith. whatever anyone says on here the church will be forced to comnply with ether human rights laws or labours fantastic equality law.
gays have civil marriages that are legal in the eyes of the law. they have the same rights in that civil marriage as a hetrosexual couple do. can anyone therefor explain why gays want the same marriage rights on top of that? i am sorry gay marriage is certainly not the norm but even on here i see peeple with 22nd century values. to say you do not agree with gay marriage then gets you being of a 19th century mind set.
stonewall and there like will never be satisfied until there rights weigh more than a normal marriage. i am waiting for the first person on here to accuse someone they are homophobic, simply because they do not agree with a gay marriage. :dry:

In not so many words, they already have
Quote by nostringsluton
wouldn't it be better for the kids to have parents who divorced than live with parents who are rather dysfunctional people in a bad marriage ?

Yes, I agree, but that changes nothing in my view
How can you agree but then say.. but it don't change my views. rolleyes
Easily lol
“This Government believes marriage often provides an excellent environment in which to bring up children,” it says. “The Government is clear that marriage should be supported.”
Mr Duncan Smith said he was not “lecturing” parents on how to live, merely setting out the facts on the advantages of marriage and commitment.

This is my view also, but I would not wish an unhappy couple stay together, simple really wink
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wouldn't it be better for the kids to have parents who divorced than live with parents who are rather dysfunctional people in a bad marriage ?

Yes, I agree, but that changes nothing in my view
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Th last time a Monarch wished to over-rule the Church, it ended in many be-headings and the established Church lost.
I somehow can't see the present Sovereign following the same route.
But she is deeply religious, extremely knowledgeable on these matters and is not afraid of standing her ground with the General Synod of which the majority probably agree with her anyway.
There are some things that the Government of the day can change but removing the Sovereign is not one of them. Telling the Church of England that they must allow same sex marriages within their walls is not one either.
I think 'Stonewall' is an appropriate name; that is what they will meet if they try to impose their will against the weight and might of the English secular machine.
Far better that they set up their own Church with their own pastors and offer 'cheapies' on the side with defrocked priests.

Yes this makes sense to me, I have struggled with this, I am happy with gay marriage, what I would have a problem with is the church be forced to comply, this would aviod this. :thumbup:
Quote by neilinleeds
They are not dictating though are they, I am not religious so have not been dictated to, have you?

Oh yes they are. They're trying to influence Govt policy that affects believers and none-believers alike cos they don't like the idea of gay marriage. How is that not trying to dictate? They're free to believe what they like, as are those who subscribe to similar beliefs, but this goes beyond an expression of belief. It's aiming to impose that belief on others whether they share it or not by seeking to deny gay couples a right that heterosexual couples enjoy.
We are all entitled to influence, or attempt to influence, Govt policy, unless some thing has changed that I am unaware of???? No matter what our beliefs

The study was carried out by Harry Benson, who is director of the Bristol Community Family Trust, which carries out research into parenting and relationships.
The findings are based on a study of 15,000 mothers who gave birth during 2000-01 - the so-called Millennium Cohort Study. It found that cohabiting couples were twice as likely to experience a family breakdown during the early years of parenthood than married couples of a similar income.
When the sample was expanded to include all unmarried couples — including those cohabiting and "closely involved" — family breakdown is five times more common than among married couples.
Almost 3,000 of the women involved in the study had become lone parents during the first three years of their child's life.
However, analysis of the figures reveals that six per cent of married couples had experienced a family breakdown compared with 32 per cent among all unmarried couples. When the unmarried figures are broken down, they show that 20 per cent of cohabiting couples experienced breakdown while the figure among "closely involved" couples was 74 per cent.
Evidence from the study suggests that the low breakdown rates among married couples can be explained by a range of factors including commitment, fathers playing a greater role in their children's upbringing and better communication.
Quote by deancannock
so parents who are married....constantly argueing, at each others throat night and day, are deeply unhappy, should stay together because the government thinks its for the best. Its the biggest load of codswallop you can ever read. Life over the decades has changed, there are more pressures and opportunities out there now. People do grow apart. Surely it is better for a child to be looked after by two parents seperatly, that are happy, than two parents together that are deeply unhappy ????

Don't think I would argue with your point, but it does not stop us from supporting marriage
Quote by neilinleeds
stonewall as i have already mentioned, will never be happy in just having equal rights, no they want society to think it is the norm for gay marriages and the notion that it is cool to teech it in schools, as the norm. it is not the norm.

You betray a great deal here. Homosexuality is normal. It is common to pretty much all of the higher functioning species, and prevalent enough in humans statistically as to fall well within the bounds of what could only be classed as a normal variation. To argue otherwise is ludicrous. That you or others don't see it as normal has more to do with distorted perceptions based on out-moded ways of thinking than it has to do with a real abnormality, your definition of normal seeming to be simply 'what has been said and done in the past', and says more about the subject than it does about the object. Whatever, gay marriage will rapidly become normal once it's been in place long enough for a new paradigm to take root.
Star said gay marriage was not the norm, you are twisting words
Quote by neilinleeds
it infuriates me where a few dictate to the masses, as to what they think is best for them.

What, like self-appointed authorities who claim to be channelling the thoughts of an imaginary being in some sense you mean? That sort of a few dictating to the masses about what's best for them? How about letting people decide what's best for themselves, and giving them the right to do so, so long as that doesn't infringe on anyone else's liberty. What harm does it cause anyone? None. Who's liberties would it infringe? Noones.

They are not dictating though are they, I am not religious so have not been dictated to, have you?
With car manufacturing and exports on the up, could this be a good sign for the future. Things must surely be looking up lol
Landrover this week, Tata Motors-owned Jaguar Land Rover (JLR) is adding 1,000 jobs at its Freelander and Evoque factory at Halewood, near Liverpool in England.
The new posts will take the headcount at Halewood to almost 4,500 – treble the number employed there three years ago


and Nissan last week, Nissan to create 2,000 new jobs by building compact car in Sunderland
Vince Cable says decision – which will boost area hit by cuts and recession – 'a vote of confidence in UK manufacturing

So marriage is better for the children, just as I thought.... Of coarse some here will disagree wink

Marriage is best for raising children, Government says
It is better for children to be raised by two parents than one, and better still when those parents are married, the Government will declare today.
Iain Duncan Smith will make the Coalition’s most explicit official statement in favour of parents marrying and staying together.
He will say that children from such homes are most likely to end up with a good education and a job.
The Work and Pensions Secretary will make the declaration as he announces an Early Intervention Foundation to raise millions of pounds from private investors to help disadvantaged children.
The Social Justice Strategy Paper will set out plans to tackle the causes of poverty and disadvantage.
It makes clear that the stability of parents’ relationships is a key factor in children’s prospects.
I have to say I am confused by this one and find it difficult to have a clear cut view. :sad:
Foxy and Nielinleeds are quite right in much of what they say, yet so is Star. If/when it becomes law the church will not be able to refuse gay couples the right to marriage in there churches and this also can not be right.
Northwest,
21st century, or modern thinking does not automatically equate to be correct or for the best.
Not too bothered about the NHS after all then and tells porky pies it would seam
Ed Miliband watched football just hours after saying 'too ill' to visit NHS protest
Labour leader Ed MilIband was spotted watching a football match - just hours after claiming he was "too ill" to attend a planned protest against NHS reforms.

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Once I found myself lost at night with no food, no shelter and it was pouring with rain - so I used a top tip from the Bear and checked into a Holiday Inn with my Amex

lol :thumbup:
Should the church have a say in gay marriage? I am undecided on this and would be interested in people views
Gay marriage: Bishop of Bath and Wells calls for debate
The bishop called for "constructive" discussions
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The Bishop of Bath and Wells has called for more time to reflect on government proposals to allow gay marriages.
Bishop Peter Price said the church needed to recognise there are many Christians who accept the reality and validity of homosexual relationships.
He said: "There are both heterosexual and homosexual couples who deeply believe God has brought them together and want that union blessed.
The government wants to introduce gay marriage by 2015



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In his keynote speech, Mr Clegg also pledged to do more to reduce the tax burden for the lowest-paid, saying next week's Budget must have "fairness" at his heart.

Yes we all well remember Clegg's pledges

So expecting him to have bugger all impact in the Budget as only a 20% member of the Coalition
And had he got in as a government he may well have kept them, but he did not, it is a coalition, he is not in a position to keep those promises, so why do people keep harping on about them?
Quote by Lizaleanrob
here you go blue

its seems they no longer fear humans :sad:

Little bit scary me thinks :sad:
Quote;
“The best thing to use is a water pistol.”
Not what I was thinking of using! :mad:

Can you cook?
I can’t, but I do have a speciality – squirrel. I’ve been running a campaign to wipe out grey squirrels, and I’m a dab hand at flash-fried squirrel with garlic and butter. Skinning it is quite difficult, then you quarter it. Really you want to marinate it because there’s no fat on a squirrel.
On Tuesday 28th February the Evening Standard published a comment piece by Simon Jenkins, National Trust Chairman, which highlights the growing problem of urban foxes, and local authorities' squeamishness about dealing with them properly.
He has managed to make some changes which people should be very pleased with
Also he had more good news;
In his keynote speech, Mr Clegg also pledged to do more to reduce the tax burden for the lowest-paid, saying next week's Budget must have "fairness" at his heart.
The UK's economic recovery would be "long and hard", he argued, but the Lib Dems and their Conservative coalition partners were determined to help those facing tough times.