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Bluefish2009
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Quote by deancannock
well...Ghadaffi is finally found and murdered !! Must admit, I am very much ill at ease, with the way it has all ended. Ghadaffi was a tyrant and indeed issued orders that killed thousands. However watching the video of him being dragged through the street, clearly alive, and then haveing a gun pressed against his head....and then to see him in a pool of blood dead, leaves a stale taste in my mouth. I know this man was responsable for the killing of many peoples relatives, but I still think in the end he was defenceless and murdered !! and murder is a crime. I am glad Libya is free and hopefully will move towards democracy, but despite the great wealth of oil reserves it has, unemployment it is said runs at over 60%. Young men now on the streets with, no enemy to shoot at, but still with guns and bullets in their hands. Dangerous cocktail I fear.

You are quite correct Dean, for those in the new government that were preaching democracy, they have now failed at the very first hurdle!
However, from my personal view, I feel very little for him, live by the sword, die by it!
If it is found that the farmer is telling the truth, then I fully suport his action in this case and any like it.
I would be interested in other thoughts
A COUPLE have been left ‘devastated’ after a farmer shot dead two of their dogs for ‘worrying his cattle’.
Susan and Tony Dracup, of Woodville Road, Hartshorne, lost Tilly, a two-year-old Beagle-like hound, and Suki, a one-year-old whippet cross, when they were killed by John Collier, of nearby Goseley Dale Farm, while being taken for a walk.
The 64-year-old shot the dogs from 40ft with his 16-bore shotgun after his wife, Audrey, allegedly saw them worrying his 15-strong herd of pedigree Charolais cattle, each worth more than £5,000.

Quote by Ben_Minx
It might be a load of bollocks if I can ever find it.

Ben, you lighten my day, thank you :thumbup:
Quote by foxylady2209
I think we need an option for 'don't know enough to comment'. (Although that has rarely stopped people from posting so far :gigglesmile
I saw on the news a chap whacking his hand pretty hard with the 'whip' and it was broad padded and made a sort of slapping noise. I'm not a horse expert but on the onbe ride I had I was constantly told to kick harder with my heels as the horse was so strong it wouldn't feel me. I couldn't see much harm coming from whacking it across the rump with this whip. Obviously no animal should be hit across the head or joints but this doesn't seem harmful.
More suitable for a BDSM session by the look of it.

We have one hung on the bed post lol
Quote by starlightcouple
i sometimes wonder if these so called tyrants such as gadaffi and sadam are made worse by american propaganda?
propaganda can be a very dangerous tool.

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It is wonderful to see such piece and harmony since the removal of Sadam
Nothing seems to make people more heated then discussing the pros and cons of hunting. Fox hunting is alive and kicking around Hay On Wye - at least four hunts span the immediate area - and in fact fox hunting is happening all over the countryside. Most city people I talk to think it is cruel and want it banned. Most country people think the opposite.......
My pony pricked up his ears and started to look about excitedly, and as I began to trot home I came across about 15 hounds, a jumble of vehicles and some men wearing Barbour-type jackets with flat caps and sticks. Very Down to Earth Powell and Pressberger.
The hounds were impressively polite and allowed my pony to walk down the lane unaccosted and I stopped to ask one gentleman what they were doing. "Cubbing", they answered.
Everyone round here knows what that is - rooting out the young foxes and preparing the hounds for the proper hunt. As I had just been in an outdoor riding menage littered with the droppings of over thirty foxes (each with big plumstones in them - they had obviously gorged themselves on Charlotte's plums the day before), I knew as well as the hunters that the area was teeming with foxes.
Nobody says much though. It's an official secret throughout the land - away from Westminster and all the townies - that fox hunting is going strong.

Splendid news I would say lol
David Cameron has insisted the Government remains committed to a Commons vote on reversing the controversial ban on hunting.
It has been claimed a pledge in the coalition Government agreement to let MPs oppose Labour's totemic Hunting Act was "dead and buried".
But asked by the Western Morning News whether the Government still abided by the promise, the Prime Minister said: "There's no change in the position, and the commitment is the commitment, and we don't resile from that.
I'm sure at some stage the vote will be held. I don't have a timing for that." Hunt supporters across the Westcountry had campaigned for pro-hunt MPs at last May's general election.
The issue has cooled within Westminster, chiefly because of the need to revive the economy. But pressure is still strong among the grass roots in the countryside for a repeal of the ban.
Mr Cameron, a keen country sportsman, has said he will vote against the ban.

Quote by Dave__Notts
When I cortege passes me in the street........if I knew them I would pay my respects, if I didn't then I probably wouldn't even notice it.
If one was slow moving, then I would probably overtake it.
If one was in my street loading, I would overtake it.
But there again, I wasn't part of the riots and I don't go around mugging old grannies. So the report is a load of bollox in my viewDave_Notts

I agree the "highlighted" is indeed Bollox, but not the whole article, in my humble view
Quote by starlightcouple

Ok they maybe open to all but only some can afford to exploit them

so bluefish IF you decided to build an extension on the side of your house without planning permission, and the council told you that you had to take it down, how long do you think you could play the game for before they had you in court and the judge ordering you to take it down?
a month perhaps or what about three months? ten yeers?
are you a betting man mr bluefish wink
how long as mr normal do you think you could play the council with your extension?
as long as dale farm residents have been given do you think?
Im going with 6 months....
Where work for which planning permission was required is carried out without permission being obtained the local authority can take enforcement action to force the owner of the property for the time being (which may not be the person that owned the property at the time the work was done) to take whatever actions necessary to remedy the breach of planning law.
This may simply mean making or application for permission, or it may mean removing or altering an offending structure or refraining from using the property for an unlawful purpose. Initially the local authority will contact the property owner to ask him to remedy the breach but, if he fails to do so, they will serve an enforcement notice. This will give the owner 6 months to comply and failure to do so will result in the local authority carrying out the work themselves at the owner’s expense as well as issuing a fine of £25,000. Failure to pay the fine or the cost of the work can result in imprisonment.

This was on the radio today.
Has this Country lost or loosing its respect for the dead, I feel very strongly about this one, I feel it very important that we show respect. Particularly for the living relatives, I feel it gives Comfort for the relatives if they know we care, this I think is very important that they know we still care.
Funeral directors say that generations of people are now unaware of traditional funeral etiquette. They have linked the rise in discourteous behaviour with the breakdown of respect in society that led to the summer's riots and looting.
A study by The Co-operative Funeralcare, which conducts over 100,000 funerals a year, found that 51 per cent of people are unaware that anyone working by the side of the street should stop work when a funeral cortege drives past. Four in ten pedestrians say that they no longer bow their heads as a sign of respect.
The Co-op said that almost a third of people aged between 18 and 44 are now totally unaware of the unwritten rules for funeral processions.
David Collingwood, national operations director at the Co-op, said: “There has been much talk since the riots this summer about attitudes and respect within society and we have seen a significant shift over the years away from people observing the unwritten rules of funeral etiquette.”

From here
Heard this one on radio two today, I can understand that some violent persons may need to be struck off and rightly so, but this seams to me that some gp's are going over the top.
Wondered what others here thought.....
A terminally-ill woman and her two daughters were struck off by their GP after one of the daughters, Miss F, a registered nurse, changed the battery on her mother's medication machine rather than wait for the district nurse.
The mother died a few weeks later and was said to have been "left distraught" by the decision to remove her from the list.
Miss F complained, saying the decision had never been properly explained and that it had been done at a hugely stressful time for the family.
The ombudsman upheld the complaint and the practice has since apologised.

More here
This has so far been an interesting and entertaining debate.
In my local town, Asda are planning a new supper-store.

The thing here is that no planning permission has yet been granted, yet ground work and foundations have begun. To do this they must be very confident they will get their permission to build or not worried about loosing the money they have already invested. I suspect the later, they can afford to loose the money should the planning fall through.
Which in my view means that not all these loop holes are open to all, but only to those that can afford to loose such sums!
Ok they maybe open to all but only some can afford to exploit them
Quote by Dave__Notts
I see no need for them to speed to catch a speeding driver, get the evidence on video and then call off any chase, or get the helicopter in. Most times the car registration will lead them to the persons home, just as speed camera's do

not if they already broke the law by not registering the car for tax or insurance as a vast majority of speeding offenders do, that or they stole the car, the police have to give chase to find out if they are the actual owners of the car first
That is both ends of the spectrum to me.
I can see both points of view in this but I suppose it would come down to a case by case basis. We have to rely that the training of the officers in charge has been good enough that they know when to chase and when not to.
Dave_Notts
As Dave says, we are talking here of two ends of the scale here. The problem for me is that the person being pursued by the police are not highly trained drivers, I feel for officers to give chase and put other road user's lives at risk then the crime should be befitting to the danger of the chase.
Some years back two young lives were lost as police chased two young lads for speeding. It turns out they had marginally exceeded a speed limit, the police gave chase and they drove into a brick wall. That wall only killed them, but the wall could have been a family in their car, or on the pavement
Quote by sara2010
"That is a greyish area I think. Certainly the police have specific opersating procedures that allow exceeding the speed limit in certain circumstances."
Those operating procedures do not give an officer the right to break the law. They have not been passed by parliament and enshrined in legislation.
They can only speed if it prevents a crime of greater importance. e.g most crimes are of Greater importance than speeding!
The "specific opersating procedures" are simply guidelines within the force that have been found sufficient to avoid prosecution or criticism. (just my opinion of course)
John

Interesting train of thought developing here. If speeding is only acceptable to prevent a worse crime - what about police chasing speeders? It would mean they are being worse - ie driving faster - in order to stop someone doing a similar but less severe offence - driving slower than them. hmmm - << goes off to think about it some more>>.
but the police in question of speeding to chase the speeder then the worse crime is the possibility of death or maiming of themselves or third parties and is tolerated in my opinion. but if the officers were speeding to get back to the station for end of shift then they can and will be prosecuted to the extent of the law
I see no need for them to speed to catch a speeding driver, get the evidence on video and then call off any chase, or get the helicopter in. Most times the car registration will lead them to the persons home, just as speed camera's do
Quote by tweeky
What brought it on? 6 years of being here, some of the people we have known and some of the dramas that have unfolded regardless of all the communication and precautions.

Is it not a risk all swinger take, comes with the territory kind of thing?
Yes for sure. From what I have seen though in the main part is couples split that could be for any reason and nout to do with swinging. Have known of quite a few married or in a relationship partners to run off with the single but hardly seen any couples split with one going off with the other part of a couple. I am sure it does happen but I would guess it happens more when you start to play with singles maybe even more so when thats multiple experinces with the same singles. That is the scenario in which I have known most break ups to happen.
I guess that makes sense really, but its a chance we have to take if we wish to partake in these games. Just like many things in life, it comes with a risk, one each couple/person, have to asses and make their decision.
Quote by Lost
Must admit that I'm not confused about things here though
This is of coarse the main reason we are here at all, (See our profile) For many years I had this very strange fantasy of watching the wife with another man.....
We spoke about it, play acted it out for a long, long time. We then joined here and hung around watching, reading, and listening to others. Then talking to others and researching the subject. It is far more popular than you might think. There were some worries, like how would I feel when it really came to the real thing, what if he seamed to satisfy the wife better than me, and many more such thoughts. But when we Finlay did try it out, all such problems disappeared and we both enjoyed it very much.
Some times I just watch, video, photograph, some times I join in with a threesome. - It's just so fu*king horny! And the sex between you and the Mrs afterwards is amazing. Usually far better than the sex she just had with the other guy too, Thats not saying the sex she's just had isn't good in fact the better it is the better the sex between us is after.
I am NOT, how ever a cuckold, as I have no wish to be humiliated in any way what so ever - Couldn't agree more with this Pisses my right off. The only things that would happen if someone tried to humiliate me is that the Mrs would probably castrate him with whatever implement was at hand. (Castration by bedside light would not be pretty) Together with his own humiliation in having to limp down the street without his trolleys on.

Totally in sync with this post bluefish :thumbup:

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Quote by starlightcouple
a thousand men? we have truble finding one guy on here. good luck i say. lol

This is our experience also, we have had only a few meets from here, an advert here will generate only a few responses for us, on other sites we get more than we can possibly reply to....
Maybe it just the area we are in dunno
However, we prefer this site wink
No, we have, as yet, not been offered money for sex.
However we have played elaborate games where we have acted out fantasy's of such things
Very foolish I would suggest, 20 years in opposition and a few months in his new job, plonker!
I think you can stay on any site or your own land for 28 days before planning permission would be required
Quote by Ben_Minx
I think that prohibiting things makes them likely to become the domain of career criminals.
I have no problem with the concept or practice of prostitution provided the workers are protected.
So make it strictly legal and above board and regulate it.

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Quote by moniquejohn
, monique/john will be saying they are dyslexic next.
erm Monique IS dyslexic.
and my main objection is when people assume if you cant spell, your thick..
As a kid I had an IQ of 130. I just can't spell.
Mostly I put that down to lack of practice and the way my brain process information. My spelling is getting better due to Google chrome having a built in spell checker. But even then I quite often select the wrong word from the options due to not paying attention.
The mistake in question has nothing to do with my understanding of the word, just my mouse didn't hover over the correct word long enough in the pull down menu on the spell checker and I didn't notice.

As some one else that suffers from dyslexia, I often get my bad spelling, or bad choice from the spell checker, pointed out by those that feel this is a fun thing to do. I just try to ignore it now.
It is a similar attitude that I faced at school from many teachers. Almost, as if they wish to belittle people with their perceived superior knowledge. I have since discovered there is much I can do well that they could not.
Another thing the wife and I noticed when we arrived here is how judgmental so many here can be. We had presumed that people, who were on, what most of society might consider the fringes of what could be considered acceptable, would be more open mined and excepting of other’s quirks, more so than vanilla folk. We were wrong to presume this, some seem to be less excepting.
We still like it here though lol
Quote by duncanlondon
It would be genuinely voluntary if it originated from someone's good will. But once it is suggested it becomes more of an expectation or obligation.

But if one felt obligated before hand then one could simply say no dunno
Quote by tweeky
^^^ whoa there tweaky fella, what brought this on?? :shock:
While Im sure this does happen, if a couple do the smart discuss and plan thing, setting ground rules before hand they can reduce the chances of emotions getting the better of them and it turning illicit.
1) Only phone contact goes through the guys mobile number, if guy to gal chat is required it can still go through his mobile (or if situation reversed and couple meeting a single fem then the ladies exchange numbers)
2) Set message notification on the site to go to the guys (or womans) email address, so they know it is unlikely contact can be made without their partner getting a whiff of it.
You dont think us genuine, honest, single, wife ravishing, rampant, horny single males have it tough enough trying to get our dose of dirty (and helping likeminded couples add an extra portion of cock) without you adding further:
Piss > Chips!!
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What brought it on? 6 years of being here, some of the people we have known and some of the dramas that have unfolded regardless of all the communication and precautions.
Is it not a risk all swinger take, comes with the territory kind of thing?
On the occasions that we have booked rooms our selves we have never asked for contributions, but every time our guest has offered half and we have always excepted.
I think it sounds unusual to us, but provided you are up front with people they have a choice to say yes or no wink
Quote by Lost
Must admit that I'm not confused about things here though
This is of coarse the main reason we are here at all, (See our profile) For many years I had this very strange fantasy of watching the wife with another man.....
We spoke about it, play acted it out for a long, long time. We then joined here and hung around watching, reading, and listening to others. Then talking to others and researching the subject. It is far more popular than you might think. There were some worries, like how would I feel when it really came to the real thing, what if he seamed to satisfy the wife better than me, and many more such thoughts. But when we Finlay did try it out, all such problems disappeared and we both enjoyed it very much.
Some times I just watch, video, photograph, some times I join in with a threesome. - It's just so fu*king horny! And the sex between you and the Mrs afterwards is amazing. Usually far better than the sex she just had with the other guy too, Thats not saying the sex she's just had isn't good in fact the better it is the better the sex between us is after.
I am NOT, how ever a cuckold, as I have no wish to be humiliated in any way what so ever - Couldn't agree more with this Pisses my right off. The only things that would happen if someone tried to humiliate me is that the Mrs would probably castrate him with whatever implement was at hand. (Castration by bedside light would not be pretty) Together with his own humiliation in having to limp down the street without his trolleys on.

Totally in sync with this post bluefish :thumbup:

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I was so supprised when I discovered that lots of people enjoyed this kind of thing, before we found our way here I thought I was very odd
Quote by starlightcouple

We play MMF and sometimes multiple MF. I have also observed others enjoying similar situations in clubs. There are, from my experience and observations, as many sources of enjoyment from these scenarios as there are swingers.
As is so often the case, folk who don't understand other motivations sometimes seek to judge. Just as men who proclaim there bisexuality can be judged to be less manly so those who enjoy watching there missus shagging can be judged to be enjoying humiliation. Neither is necessarily true of course.
I try very hard to understand what others enjoy. I find the best way is to try it and see how I feel after.

could not agree more ben.
we have met a guy from another site and mrs star has played with him with me there. in fact we have played as a three sum and it was all great. I loved the watching her suck his big cock and then watched as he fucked her hard. i loved it.
i have no desire to be humiliated at all by the guy but love it if the wife afterwards tell me me how much bigger his cock was, or how great he fucks, a huge turn on indeed.
now though i would love to stay downstairs while he fucks her upstairs without me being there, just listening. just writting this makes no sense at all to me. this guy is young and fit and has a very large cock which mrs star loves, but am i taking this too far?
i am confused but fucking horny about the whole thing. he is coming over on saturday and mrs star wants to fuck him alone and tell me about it, but she is having trouble deeling with it as well.
We went through all these emotions also Star, we have also played the separate room fun, even once at a hotel we met a regular in the bar, I sat at a table near by as they pretended to meet for the first time, he chatted up the wife and then she took him to our room while I stayed in the bar. We also had a video set up on a tripod which the wife pressed record on as they walked into the room, for me to watch later. We would only go to these lengths with some one we had met many times and trust 100%
I have no idea why this is such a turn on, but have reached a point now of not caring why and we both just enjoy
As funlovers said a safe word is a must. We always have a safe word for every meet, in particular with new people! Some times a safe word is just not enough, one young man had to be told, in no uncertain terms that it was safe sex only. He removed his condom and thought no one would notice, I did and he never got to finish the fun he had hoped for!! mad:-x
Quote by Big_Fraser
While I agree that man made global warming has been massively over egged, I do think the rate of human population growth and enviromental degradation is unsustainable in the long term. The issue requires more urgent attention than global warming and climate change which has acted not only as a distraction but also a smoke screen.
I am not going to be getting deeper involved in this one, a debate where people simply quote the dailymail and americandaily is not somewhere I choose to be.
The mail does not even have a reference to the full text of Osbournes speech anywhere on its site, in its little rant it even uses points he raises in it without attributing the comments to him.
I do get involved in discussions on current affairs, philosophy and politics elsewhere, I always forget what happens on SH. People quote newspapers at each other.
Newspapers are mostly full of shit, evidenced by the fact this article was written by richard north, he thought this was a good idea to add on a blog, despite having used the same rascist terms before:
The starkest fact of the week – according to Booker – is that, while the stoods are being stuffed for £2.9 billion to keep the education budget down, £2.9 billion is precisely the sum we are being forced to dole out to the jungle bunnies so that they can buy windmills, solar panels and new Mercedes cars for their rulers and their entourages.

He was caught because after he edited his text after one vile rant in an online discussion people started to take screenshots and quote his posts imediatley to prevent him hiding it again.
I do like reading the apologies newspapers have to make when they base articles on his work though ;)
Have a search - they are not hard to find.
I sign off from the CA forum and stick to the cafe, discussions on the serious I will have somewhere serious.
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