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Freckledbird
Over 90 days ago
Bisexual Female, 60
Straight Male, 56
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So very shocked to hear this news. My heart goes out to you Gem, and Neil's family. He was a lovely man and with a few bloody decent brain cells too. I keep crying, then chuckling. I can't imagine how painful this is for you, and that makes me cry some more. Big hugs and lots of love xxx
Equality is about offering the same opportunities to everyone, regardless of any differences. However, that doesn't mean we are all equal.
Equality does not, and never will, exist.
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I suppose it depends on what you are used too. In recent times I have noticed that 1000-1200 people tend to be in the chatroom from 10PM onwards.

I am used to busy chatrooms,used to use the NW room every night but it doesnt exist anymore
Open one then?
Hiya Sarge, glad to see that things are good with you all.
I don't think I could live anywhere but England, but if I could move anywhere it would be Edinburgh. If it was overseas, I think I'd choose France - not too far away to come back occasionally.
I think Losty, that the reason for most is probably down to finances. Usually attending a social involves a hotel stay, dinner/breakfast, drinks, possibly taxis. For those with children, the cost of childcare, and even arranging the childcare, might be a further issue.
Star, a munch isn't 'sponsored' by the site. It's a munch because it's only organised for members of SH. A munch is usually held in a venue which is self-contained for the occasion, ie. not open to the general public, own bar, own toilets for the munch attendees. Banned members are unable to add themselves to the list, so they can't attend. Details are sent out by PM, so they can't find out the details of the venue, date etc. If someone tells a banned member those details, I believe they may also be subject to a ban. And quite rightly, in my opinion.
A social is open to non-members also. Banned members may be in attendance, but the other attendees should be made aware that there will be non- members or banned members there. I have been to socials where it has been stated on the thread that there will be banned members there; it's then up to me to find out who they are (I believe the organisers have to tell you if asked) and decide whether or not I would still attend, once in possession of their names.
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On other forums the tag appears to relate in some way to the theme of the forum.
So I`d suggest something a little more relevent ...
"Godlike" to me, appears to hark back to the days when the whole internet thing was more important than the forum itself .
Don`t worry I know what I mean lol
I have no problems with it being clear who has been posting more, it just seems to be a semantics issue .

I think some of the names were to do with the 'heaven' bit of the site mods used to be 'heavenly helpers' or something like that.
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Oh dear yet another newspaper link rolleyes

Seems some people see things and others do not, but a very interesting article if you read ALL of it. :thumbup:

Sorry star, I did read all of it and the final sentence left the article with little credibility.
Hardly surprising so, given it's source.
Agreed, GNV.
And yes Star, I read all of the article.
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I'm inclined to agree with what TooHot has said actually. There are undoubtedly scroungers. The immigrant workers that you, Starlight, speak of, accept jobs and housing which many British nationals wouldn't. They live on less than minimum wage because they don't have all manner of electronic gadgets, toys, cars and even furnishings and clothing, that your average scrounger insists on having. I have no objection to my taxes paying to help people who are genuinely in need. However, it really annoys me when I see unemployed (able-bodied) people who appear to have everything except a job. I know unemployed people who enjoy a better standard of living than I do - better cars, holidays abroad, a car, money to go out drinking and smoke. These people are smart enough to be able to work the system to their advantage. I have seen the type of people who Steve has described. They exist. I would imagine that you have also seen examples of them. That is evidence enough without referring to reports in newspapers. Your 'evidence' to support any statements you make, are links to newspaper reports. Yet you are scornful of others who do the same with articles from different newspapers.

The problem is people and some on here cannot differentiate between genuine claimants and the scroungers. It seems anyone who signs on now is fair game to be classed a scrounger. A scrounger I have never been as owning my home outright would prove, but my profession is in dire difficulties and to go into another profession cold as it were, would struggle to offer the kind of money to pay my bills.
There are plenty of immigrant workers who have the things most aspire too, like the cars and the gadgets you talk about, but invariably they share the most expensive outlay every month with many others, that is their rent and lodgings. How can a British worker with a young family possibly be able to match that?
Of course there are people like Steve describes out there, but I believe his over exaggeration of ' his street ' makes it sound like a back street unemployment shop, full of people on the dole laughing at all the taxpayers as they sup their beer. Yes they exist but every single person now on the dole is being labelled into that same category. I am not one of those but have found myself needing a bit of help. Is that not what the system was put in place for?
I asked for evidence that these people do not actually work and cannot see a problem with me asking that. Yes I use newspaper links at times and other links at others, cannot see a problem with that either to be honest.
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And then when you're making weak argument and people pull you up on it, you start swearing. In my experience people who have to do that, know that they have run out of arguments.

Swearing? What at a person in just in general dialogue? Have not run out of any arguments as purely debating. As a teacher you should surely know the difference?
So, because your home is paid for and you won't work extra hours or for lower pay, you live on benefits? Basically because it wouldn't be worth your while to work?
There are streets such as the one Steve described - I live and teach near to several of them.
And as a reasonably literate person, I do indeed know that there is a difference between an argument and a debate. But I also know that the word 'argument' is used, as I have, for one's opinion in a debate. Whether your swearing is in general dialogue or aimed at a person, it still only demonstrates that you have run out of reasonable arguments (again, I use that word in the context of a contribution to a debate or discussion).
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It seems to me Star that you have very much enlightened us in this little exchange.
(From a previous thread)...You intend to vote UKIP in order to stop Eastern Europeans coming to this country and stealing all the jobs and opportunities. Yet from this thread you are not prepared to do yourself what the Eastern Europeans are doing and that is taking any job available, working hard and striving to better yourself.

No I am probably going to vote UKIP because the other two ain't worth a wank, and the most important thing for me is to get out of Europe. Did I actually say all of those things? If the jobs were not all going to immigrant workers, who said ' British jobs for British workers '? Oh yes it was at the time a certain Prime Minister in Gordon Brown. Why do you think he said that Too Hot? It was not because immigrant workers were actually nicking all the jobs do you? I mean 20 Polish people living in three rooms and sharing the rent and reducing their outgoings so as to be able to live on £5 an hour which is what many employers were paying, I mean British workers with families could afford to compete in that market I suppose? What a ridiculous analogy but not so when you do not know anything about the real facts of these issues.
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And yes I do happen to believe that we all have the same opportunities in life, they just come at us in different ways.

Sorry what a load of old twaddle. In life and to succeed you need two important elements. The first one is a fucking lot of luck, coupled with number two which is hard work. Many people have the hard work ethics, but lack that most important trait of luck. If you believe you can get to be successful without both, then you are deluded my friend.
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Life goes on and we will all be replaced by those hungrier, leaner and meaner. Not nice I agree, but a fact of evolution.

Do you really believe even half of what you write? No we get replaced as a natural cycle of those more luckier or work harder. No evolution there, but a pure fact of life.
Still what does a lazy git like me know eh?
I'm inclined to agree with what TooHot has said actually. There are undoubtedly scroungers. The immigrant workers that you, Starlight, speak of, accept jobs and housing which many British nationals wouldn't. They live on less than minimum wage because they don't have all manner of electronic gadgets, toys, cars and even furnishings and clothing, that your average scrounger insists on having. I have no objection to my taxes paying to help people who are genuinely in need. However, it really annoys me when I see unemployed (able-bodied) people who appear to have everything except a job. I know unemployed people who enjoy a better standard of living than I do - better cars, holidays abroad, a car, money to go out drinking and smoke. These people are smart enough to be able to work the system to their advantage. I have seen the type of people who Steve has described. They exist. I would imagine that you have also seen examples of them. That is evidence enough without referring to reports in newspapers. Your 'evidence' to support any statements you make, are links to newspaper reports. Yet you are scornful of others who do the same with articles from different newspapers.
And then when you're making weak argument and people pull you up on it, you start swearing. In my experience people who have to do that, know that they have run out of arguments.
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It is a ridiculous benefit anyway and hopefully this is just the first step to getting rid of it altogether.
You want kids? Make sure you can afford them.

Agreed.
Or, just cap the benefit so that it's only paid for up to two children. And also agree that it should only be paid for children resident in the UK, whose parents are paying UK taxes(or those in HM Forces).
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Errmm - kinda been in this situation before a while back and I think Neil got it in one. It doesn't matter what the label is - it is what is in the content that counts. When and how that comes out is a matter for you to decide, to avoid wasting anybody's time but also to avoid you having to spread yer whole life out in front of the world.
Thighs??? :twisted:
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Recognise the picture?
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End of the day Will how do you define yourself? Sod what anyone else thinks, it's whatever terms you feel most comfortable using that you feel most accurately describe you and your situation. Please yourself first and foremost, you need explain nothing to anyone. Course you'll want to explain to some extent so again, be only as upfront on your public profile as you and Sappho feel most comfortable with. You can explain still further in private if anyone asks you to or you feel a need to.
Retaining your couple profile with an explanation of the situation in the text with some reciprocity with Sappho's profile as Steve suggested perhaps is enough. There'll only be room for confusion among those who don't actually bother to read the profile text before contacting you, and why worry about them? You'll have done enough for your part at least.
Good to see you back BTW Will. You're always missed. Sappho too. Happy New Year to you both.

Couldn't have put it better myself :thumbup:
The only thing we're doing is cooking dinner for my daughter and son-in-law later, then having a few birthday drinks for me. All the shopping and wrapping is done :smug:
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I'd like to get an invite - pleanty of people on the list who would vouch for me if required smile

Just that as we are not familiar with your name, do you have mutual friends or people attending that can vouch for you at all please ?
If so, get them to let us know please
I can vouch for Tasitus too.
FB
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Lady’s what are your thoughts on piecing.
Prince Albert Cock rings, clit hood, labia rings etc.
Let’s have a discussion.

Piecing? Like patchwork? It's OK if done properly smile Not sure about adorning your bits with it though!
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Anybody up for a bit of daytime club fun tomorrow?
I am thinking of paying a visit, was just wondering if anybody else is planning on going.

Friday is the 23rd.
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Added all the regulars who've asked so far
:cheers:drinkies:cheers:

Trash will be coming with me!
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I wonder what happened to freckledbird dunno

wave
And it's Freckledbird!
I'm saying nowt else lol