Rescued this from page 6, it was fretting!!
Without becoming offical organisers, we did some research about a pub to meet up in on Sat afternoon. How about a pub called "The Old Bell"? it is on Rembrantplein and has a good selection of beers, plus does food!!
Suggest meeting about 4pm?
As the day wears on, around the corner there is a strip show / lapdancing place called "The Blue Bell" (no relation), maybe the party could move to there?
At a suitable point those couples who are going to Fata Morgana would have to leave, but for those left it is just a short stagger to the RLD.
All in favour say Aye.
J & S
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Regarding giving blood to get HIV test!
The literature given out when you attend a donor session specifically says DO NOT DO THIS. The blood sample is not tested for HIV on the spot, instead it is tested back at the lab. So if you gave infected blood and all the proceedures went wrong it could end up in a patient. Odds are highly against this happpening but Blood Transfusion Service want to guard against all eventuallities.
John & Shel
The literature given out when you attend a donor session specifically says DO NOT DO THIS. The blood sample is not tested for HIV on the spot, instead it is tested back at the lab. So if you gave infected blood and all the proceedures went wrong it could end up in a patient. Odds are highly against this happpening but Blood Transfusion Service want to guard against all eventuallities.
John & Shel
This subject has many options.
For instance it could be you meet a couple in a club where the man has paid a "working girl" to go with him. If he had worked out a good cover story with her, then you might not know the relationship was false and you might find youself unwittingly having sex with a prositute while the man has sex with your wife.
Or you might meet a girl at a munch who is an escort occassionally to pay for her childs upkeep, but she is in the lifestyle as "recreation". You might have sex with her.
How about this scenario then,a married couple have a long held fantasy which needs an extra woman. Easiest thing to do is hire a prositute to make it come true, rather than try and find a single girl who would go along with their fantasy.
None of the above has happened to us (we think) but if we ever did have such a fantasy who is to say we would not be willing to pay a girl to make it happen.
John & Shel
For instance it could be you meet a couple in a club where the man has paid a "working girl" to go with him. If he had worked out a good cover story with her, then you might not know the relationship was false and you might find youself unwittingly having sex with a prositute while the man has sex with your wife.
Or you might meet a girl at a munch who is an escort occassionally to pay for her childs upkeep, but she is in the lifestyle as "recreation". You might have sex with her.
How about this scenario then,a married couple have a long held fantasy which needs an extra woman. Easiest thing to do is hire a prositute to make it come true, rather than try and find a single girl who would go along with their fantasy.
None of the above has happened to us (we think) but if we ever did have such a fantasy who is to say we would not be willing to pay a girl to make it happen.
John & Shel
Last post for today as going out. By the way we are only persueing this one as we think Judy was wrongly labelled as racist, on reading of the post it certainly did not seem to be so to us.
We certainly do not see the HIV problem in the UK being solely caused by immigration, but do believe Judy had every right to mention it as a factor in the whole picture.
Interesting that the Angola question got avoided by most people.
J & S
We certainly do not see the HIV problem in the UK being solely caused by immigration, but do believe Judy had every right to mention it as a factor in the whole picture.
Interesting that the Angola question got avoided by most people.
J & S
We wanted to stay out of the fray, but had to re-enter.
The way we read Judy's post. Judy was saying that people from certain areas of the world were more likely to bring in HIV than people from other parts of the world. Therefore to prevent the HIV rate in UK increasing there should be testing of the people from the high risk areas.
Are we wrong in that sumation? If so can someone give their view of what Judy was saying.
Assuming we were correct in our definition;
In Angola today, there is an outbreak of Marburg virus, very similar to Ebola. 93% mortality rate. But many, many more times as infectious than HIV. You get it, you usually die in three days or so, in the worst way imaginable. Now if the W.H.O. can't contain it and it spreads thro Angola should the UK ban people from Angola coming to the UK. The incubation period is a few days by the way. Or to put it another way, you could catch it in Angola, be OK on the flight to Heathrow and fall ill one day later in Manchester or anywhere.
If you say yes, to protect the people of UK the Gov should stop people from Angola (the high risk area) coming here then are you a racist?
J & S
The way we read Judy's post. Judy was saying that people from certain areas of the world were more likely to bring in HIV than people from other parts of the world. Therefore to prevent the HIV rate in UK increasing there should be testing of the people from the high risk areas.
Are we wrong in that sumation? If so can someone give their view of what Judy was saying.
Assuming we were correct in our definition;
In Angola today, there is an outbreak of Marburg virus, very similar to Ebola. 93% mortality rate. But many, many more times as infectious than HIV. You get it, you usually die in three days or so, in the worst way imaginable. Now if the W.H.O. can't contain it and it spreads thro Angola should the UK ban people from Angola coming to the UK. The incubation period is a few days by the way. Or to put it another way, you could catch it in Angola, be OK on the flight to Heathrow and fall ill one day later in Manchester or anywhere.
If you say yes, to protect the people of UK the Gov should stop people from Angola (the high risk area) coming here then are you a racist?
J & S
We think JudyTV was talking about the increase in HIV infection in this Country, which followed on logically from the start of the thread.
Maybe our idea of racist differs to your JAGs. We think racist in this context could be;
Test all black people coming into this Country for HIV, don't test all others. THAT is racist!
But surely it is NOT racist to say; test ALL people for HIV if they come from an area which has high incidence of HIV infection. Now that could be anywhere, from San Franciso to parts of China.
What will be interesting is if the Bird Flu develops into a Pandemic, flights from Countries where it first takes hold will certainly be restricted if not cancelled. Will that be termed racist?
John & Shel
Maybe our idea of racist differs to your JAGs. We think racist in this context could be;
Test all black people coming into this Country for HIV, don't test all others. THAT is racist!
But surely it is NOT racist to say; test ALL people for HIV if they come from an area which has high incidence of HIV infection. Now that could be anywhere, from San Franciso to parts of China.
What will be interesting is if the Bird Flu develops into a Pandemic, flights from Countries where it first takes hold will certainly be restricted if not cancelled. Will that be termed racist?
John & Shel
We read JudyTVs posts and could find nothing in them which was the least bit racist, appeared to us to be a point about limiting or reducing one documented group of POTENTIAL HIV carriers.
To start screaming RACIST just because that group orginates outside of these shores does not help a rational discussion.
John & Shel
To start screaming RACIST just because that group orginates outside of these shores does not help a rational discussion.
John & Shel
Loads of people are into that. But you can do it in a club without people being in the same room as you. Lots of clubs have lockable private rooms which have a window in the wall, ie you two are having fun alone in a room while people are watching from the outside. Contact us if you want more info about the clubs which have that near you.
John & Shel
John & Shel
While we have been on this site for quite a while, we have tended to reply to adverts on the site rather than place an ad ourselves. Obviously when replying to an ad we do include full details about ourselves.
But we do take the point that people in the forums might want to know a little more about us, maybe just to see which particular crazy Geordie is posting such drivel.
So OK later on we will wresle with the technicalities and try to put up a page which explains who we are and what we do, rather than it being an advert.
John & Shel
But we do take the point that people in the forums might want to know a little more about us, maybe just to see which particular crazy Geordie is posting such drivel.
So OK later on we will wresle with the technicalities and try to put up a page which explains who we are and what we do, rather than it being an advert.
John & Shel
Forgot to mention hotels.
Botel will only accept 3 day bookings for weekends. So if you go to fun4two what about the hotel, stay in Gouda or get a taxi back to the Botel? The hotels we saw were either reasonable price and smallish or expensive and large.
Think our budget for hotels would be about £80/85 per night. That would get a decent, but not brilliant hotel in the City Centre. So that would be Fri and Sat night. If going to fun4two you would also need a hotel in Gouda at about £60 or somehow get back to Amsterdam. Which would be about £80 in taxi.
Any thoughts??
J & S
Botel will only accept 3 day bookings for weekends. So if you go to fun4two what about the hotel, stay in Gouda or get a taxi back to the Botel? The hotels we saw were either reasonable price and smallish or expensive and large.
Think our budget for hotels would be about £80/85 per night. That would get a decent, but not brilliant hotel in the City Centre. So that would be Fri and Sat night. If going to fun4two you would also need a hotel in Gouda at about £60 or somehow get back to Amsterdam. Which would be about £80 in taxi.
Any thoughts??
J & S
Just come back from our weekend in Amsterdam, some thoughts about the trip in October.
Looks like the best flight time for us Geordies is 7pm on Friday night. That means we would hit Amsterdam and be drinking about 10pm -10-30pm. The bars are open till about 3am so thats fine.
Perhaps the actual main group meet / munch should be arranged for Sat lunch time / afternoon. If so, we need to find a bar that will hold the number of bodies who are going. Which is??? Say 30????
We can make enquires about this, but we went into one on Rembrantplein, one of the main areas, which looked about right. It was called "The Bell". So first question; can anyone suggest another, better meeting venue?
How about around teatime everyone went to a strip/lapdancing club, again near Rembrantplein called "The Blue Bell". NOT the same pub as mentioned earlier!!!
That would mean that the couples and singles would not be splitting up very early. We did not go into The Blue Bell so can't voach for it, but looked like fun from the outside!!
We have deceided to go to "fatamorgen" (spelling) on the Sat night. The reason for this being that we were at fun4two last Sunday and it was not as good as the first time we went. Still a brilliant place, but it was Mothers Day in Holland so it was not as busy as normal. So, we want to try Fata next time. Now fata does not let in single men, so at this point the couples who want to go to Fata will be saying goodbye to the singles.
As Fata does not shut till 4am, we will be having a long lie in and then going for an afternoon flight home. Because it is a bit of a hike to Gouda for fun4two we have PROBABLY deceided not to go on the Sunday unless there are a load of couples who definatly are going!!
Any thoughts or comments on the above????
John & Shel
Looks like the best flight time for us Geordies is 7pm on Friday night. That means we would hit Amsterdam and be drinking about 10pm -10-30pm. The bars are open till about 3am so thats fine.
Perhaps the actual main group meet / munch should be arranged for Sat lunch time / afternoon. If so, we need to find a bar that will hold the number of bodies who are going. Which is??? Say 30????
We can make enquires about this, but we went into one on Rembrantplein, one of the main areas, which looked about right. It was called "The Bell". So first question; can anyone suggest another, better meeting venue?
How about around teatime everyone went to a strip/lapdancing club, again near Rembrantplein called "The Blue Bell". NOT the same pub as mentioned earlier!!!
That would mean that the couples and singles would not be splitting up very early. We did not go into The Blue Bell so can't voach for it, but looked like fun from the outside!!
We have deceided to go to "fatamorgen" (spelling) on the Sat night. The reason for this being that we were at fun4two last Sunday and it was not as good as the first time we went. Still a brilliant place, but it was Mothers Day in Holland so it was not as busy as normal. So, we want to try Fata next time. Now fata does not let in single men, so at this point the couples who want to go to Fata will be saying goodbye to the singles.
As Fata does not shut till 4am, we will be having a long lie in and then going for an afternoon flight home. Because it is a bit of a hike to Gouda for fun4two we have PROBABLY deceided not to go on the Sunday unless there are a load of couples who definatly are going!!
Any thoughts or comments on the above????
John & Shel
Two comments on this;
1, I remember about 10 - 12 YEARS ago, sitting in our doctors waiting room, reading a copy of a magazine, Woman or something like that, which was describing an activity common among RUSSIAN teenagers called daisy-chaining. Apparently, this involved teenagers doing......................blah blah blah. Maybe this is a recycled story dredged up by our wonderful tabloid press.
2, A clever friend of mine once said. "Believe half of what you see and nothing of what you read in the papers"
John
1, I remember about 10 - 12 YEARS ago, sitting in our doctors waiting room, reading a copy of a magazine, Woman or something like that, which was describing an activity common among RUSSIAN teenagers called daisy-chaining. Apparently, this involved teenagers doing......................blah blah blah. Maybe this is a recycled story dredged up by our wonderful tabloid press.
2, A clever friend of mine once said. "Believe half of what you see and nothing of what you read in the papers"
John
There are a couple of clubs in Amsterdam which allow in single men on a Sat. night. We went to Candy club once, not very big but you get some free beer with your admission fee. Don't have to pre-book either.
When we meet up in Amsterdam remind us to tell the story about the Spike Milligan look-alike at the Candy club. Corker!!!
We will probably go to fun4two on the Sunday evening, but that is certainly couples only. But if we have gone all the way to Holland, be a shame not to go there.
john & shel
When we meet up in Amsterdam remind us to tell the story about the Spike Milligan look-alike at the Candy club. Corker!!!
We will probably go to fun4two on the Sunday evening, but that is certainly couples only. But if we have gone all the way to Holland, be a shame not to go there.
john & shel
Just seen on another site that there is a new club opening in Wolverhampton on 14th May. By the description on its website (no pictures) it sounds as if it is upmarket. Possibly aimed to be a competitor to Xtasia.
its called Clubsparx (hope we're OK to put that here), only thing we have to say is........Why is the North East so lacking in big upmarket clubs?
John & Shel
its called Clubsparx (hope we're OK to put that here), only thing we have to say is........Why is the North East so lacking in big upmarket clubs?
John & Shel
