In my view, for what little it means, it’s what works between couples. We all change as we get older and coping with change is not easy but it can also be very freeing and even bring people closer. That’s about as ‘profoundish’ a statement as I will ever make. With happiness the key👍.

When my current partner and I met there was a lot to take in. We started swinging and watching her get fucked by others made me jealous and then I liked it and found that how I felt about her didn’t change. It was about sharing different experiences. Alas that stopped years ago and I miss it and sex is diminishing and I wish it would come back. So make of that what you will. During all that my feelings for her never changed as we were both happy. More so then than now … for me !

👍…….. I totally agree with that, men do want to fuck other guys wives. I also think that men just want to fuck women! I do wonder what it would be like if women ‘just wanted to fuck men’. It seems to me that women have a different view. (Of course that is a generalisation as this subject is not straight forward ) perhaps forestcpl might have a view?

That is a really good point and one that should not be out of our reach to rectify 👍😎

You have to keep talking, in my experience and us being blokes is not always easy. I am divorced now but it wasn’t the sex it was something else. However, sex became a weapon of control. It was a shame because she was the most sexually compatible. C’est la vie. I now have another partner and the sex is good - when it happens. We do talk and we are able to talk about our sex life. Though she works now and I don’t. Trouble is my libido has gone through the roof and she is totally engrossed in work. The only time we have sex is when she is in the mood. About once every six weeks. 😳. Wanking is ok but it’s not the same. She does understand but we don’t sleep together anymore as she is always working. There isn’t anyone else just work. When we go away we have sex as there are no demands. So I need a way to get her sexually involved and get her destressed. I am going to involve role play and see what happens.

To answer the real question as to why sex of talking, innovation, trying something new, boredom, kids, work, genuine tiredness, lack of interest, not feeling special, take your pick. So we have to keep on top of our game and our part despite all the stuff that affects us. Show them they are special …. Oh and suck her pussy when she is tired without any reciprocation. She will love you for that and you do get paid back. I wank while I do it and she loves watching me wank. So that works. Also I take advantage of her when I am really horny and we haven’t had sex for a couple of months. I just take her … she adores a surprise doggy, despite the fight and resistance. So when I am really horny I will surprise her, pull down her leggings bend her over and bury my face in her pussy and then take her … she protests but soon gets wet and I cum quick, which is the key. They all love to be taken get fucked and get a pussy full of cum. It’s nature. There are many failures but the small successes are amazing and she loves it. All ladies are different… and in the quest for a good fuck innovation is required and knowing your lady and being prepared for failure and don’t get upset. The objective is always giving her your load. My partner adores me cumming on her arsehole with my bellend pressed against it. She never asks and denies she likes it but she always cums. Partnerships are constantly shifting, tune in don’t get upset, and always try something new … persevere. I haven’t tried the black cock thing because I don’t want to just watch. It works for some but not me. Don’t get me wrong watching is the most sexiest thing ever but I want some as well.

Yeah I get that it’s perfectly normal. Cos being a guy all I want to do is unload. Though once someone has swallowed and is coaxing the ‘last drops’ out of you it’s like a ‘completion’. Mind you they have to be a bit gentle 😂.

I had also heard about the pineapple trick, apparently ice cream does the same thing. But I have no evidence as I don’t have a regular cock to suck to try this stuff. So there is my challenge …. Any offers? 😂

I thought a lot about what you said ……….. in truth I want to swallow but it’s a challenge. I too love the eruption and the reaction, that is also a massive turn on for me too. I have come to the conclusion (no pun intended) that to swallow is completion of the ‘act’ a sharing of the moment …….. and really horny. I will do it next time I have the opportunity.

Interesting that you say you turned Bi, I am wondering if M&W are both wired to have sex with their own gender and a lot of the time we don’t is because of social stigma. Took me decades to get to that little gem 😂. Though now I look to men for fun it’s been a very gradual process. ……… I loved it when my mate came in my mouth …. So horny but I couldn’t bring myself to swallow. I think it’s like steps and in the moment. Now I want to swallow and am still looking for someone to do that. I just know that if you follow through it makes the other persons experience so much better. My first experience was in an adult cinema and the guy unselfishly sucked me until I came and didn’t stop until I had finished and so had he!. It’s absolutely amazing having that kind of experience. Still my best experience yet.

My results … though not many have been about 50/50. Sometimes it’s spur of the moment sometimes they either just don’t like it then their are the gems that love it. I also have found that it is 50/50 amongst m&f. When you find someone who will it’s amazing. Men’s are as good as women it’s all down to if you really want to. From someone to swallow it can be the best sensation ever especially if they continue until they have swallowed everything. It’s so fucking intimate more so than fucking for me.

I can’t think of a better time to have a sexual conversation with someone than when you have your cock in them. If they are turned on you are ahead of the game and they are receptive. I have found that attempting to have a sexual conversation when neither of you are turned on is a challenge and she could feel pressured. Seemed to me a woman about to orgasm I’d going to agree to anything as long as she cums …. Then at least you have a ‘lead’ to start a sexual conversation after …. Like ‘well while you were cumming you liked the idea’ at least you might get a more honest and unpressured answer.?