Many thanks for the extremely useful and considered advice, its really appreciated. Just hearing other peoples views helps to get things in perspective. I see there are people not even as far down the line as me and people a lot further ahead so normal life really.
softly, softly catchee Monkey ! I think thats the expression I'm looking for lol
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Well it s been nearly a year and I can't believe where the time has gone. I 've not mentioned swinging to my wife in all that time and then the other night there was a glimmer of hope. Laying in bed watching real wife swaps my wife said something like "that looks like a fun place". Now you may think I should have jumped right on that but I was so sort of shocked and just came out with a pathetic " "does doesn't it" Then nothing! Now was she just referring to the decor or what? Do I raise the subject again?
We are out and about today so mybe mention it in a non sexual environment which is maybe where I went wrong last time. Maybe there is hope after all!
We are out and about today so mybe mention it in a non sexual environment which is maybe where I went wrong last time. Maybe there is hope after all!
Thanks again for all the support. My wife has been great about it as well although its not been mentioned since shes not making me suffer for it and its life as normal which is great. I'll certainly be sticking around on here though and I've not completely given up yet!
I might not be swinging but I've got a great forum to enjoy
I might not be swinging but I've got a great forum to enjoy
Thanks everybody. I know I'm a really lucky guy to have a wife I love more than anything in the world so this is just one of those things. My wife without swinging would win every time over swinging without my wife.
Being an eternal optimist and having got over the initial down, the seed is planted in her mind so you never know..............................................
Being an eternal optimist and having got over the initial down, the seed is planted in her mind so you never know..............................................
Well, for those that are interested!
Real fire, duvet in front of, nice bottle of wine, good dvd and a great hour and a half of fun with the missus. Then I raised the subject of swinging. A relatively short discussion ensued with me in no doubt whatsoever that it wasn't something she would consider.
I'm more disappoined than I ever thought I would be so I guess no where to go from here? :cry:
Real fire, duvet in front of, nice bottle of wine, good dvd and a great hour and a half of fun with the missus. Then I raised the subject of swinging. A relatively short discussion ensued with me in no doubt whatsoever that it wasn't something she would consider.
I'm more disappoined than I ever thought I would be so I guess no where to go from here? :cry:
Funny how reading evryones elses thoughts focus's your own. I need to have a goal from this and apart from divorce (or avoiding it) I think I'll suggest a chat and a drink with another couple to talk about their experiences and issues. I'm sure an ad on this site would find a couple willing to do that. May even be someone in the same situation. No pressure, just a friendly drink one evening, then go away and discuss it after. Then if she says no at least I've tried in an adult and considered way!
Thanks all. I'm feeling confident.
Thanks all. I'm feeling confident.
This is the weekend when I'm going to definately tell my wife about my desire to swing as a couple. Have mentioned it in a humorous way when talking about fantasies etc in bed but I need to come clean and make it clear. Easy, I guess just tell her but if anyone has the benefit of experience and can offer any good advice I'll gladly listen as I need to get this off my chest and quick! 
If its relevant married 14 years and early forties.
Thanks
If its relevant married 14 years and early forties. Thanks