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Trevaunance
Over 90 days ago
Bi-curious Male, 51
Straight Female, 52
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Quote by MidsCouple24
I ask again how a pilot knows the weight of his payload when he doesn't know the weight of upto 420 passengers ?

Most aircraft built in the last ten years have a weight on wheels system to retract the undercarriage. It registers the weight of the naked aircraft and then knows at what point to start the undercarriage retraction. aircrew are generally aware as to the weight of the aircraft (though not specifically because of podgie passengers) well before take off, so they can ensure the correct fuel load.
I think there are distinct parallels with the Cuban missile crisis. However I also know that the world has evolved. I don't believe we are on the eve of Armageddon, but then again I don't believe it's all over yet.
Our subs may already be there, who knows. What is for sure is that enormous constraint hs been shown in reent years, and this is likely to be sabre rattling.
Quote by MidsCouple24
We are probably as close to a nuclear war now as we were during the Cuban Missile Crisis.

Actually you probably aren't wrong. For once.
The trouble is that you are 'what if'ing' on the wrong scale.
What if the British mulberry had failed?
What if the shot Rommel was hit with had been 2 inches to one side?
What if ham and jam had never been sent?
What if Brecourt never happened?
Small scale events have a more significant effect than we ever consider. I'm sure that somewhere there was a Bombardier of the Royal Artillery that thought he could have aimed two foot to the left and killed Hitler twenty years previously and saved 50 million lives.
For us strangers and people we have met through SH etc are one thing. People we are 'close friends' with etc are another thing entirely and are not even considered.
Out of interest, how close is this mate of yours if he is inviting your partner out for drinks and not you? Doesn't sound like much of a mate to me.
Welcome back.
There can be no doubting that your life has changed a lot since you have been gone, but you sound perky enough. Good luck to you wherever you go.
One of the three will serve 15 years minimum and I agree that he will probably never be released. The other two could be out in 7 or 8 years, which is far too lenient for me.
Unfortunately the sentences were lenient. It's all down to the 'intent' apparently.
Even if the kids had been saved according to his plan, they would still have suffered the effects of breathing in unburnt products of combustion and superheated gasses. When the resulting lack of oxygen is also factored in then brain damage, PTSD and other effects on the body and mind are a distinct possibility.
Personally I think that intending to set fire to a house with any number of people in it is intending to put them in harms way; To deliberately do it to your own children is beyond the realms of my comprehension.
Your right, there is a big difference but the fact remains that several airlines are already looking at some method of charging passengers by weight.
Online check in and self service check in are two good examples of how airlines have cut direct costs, and are used by most airlines including the Samoan flagcarrier. Who would have predicted that 20 years ago?
Things change, and I think there is a possibility that charging passengers by weight could occur more frequently in the future.
What with the weather and another week of raw sewage being discharged to sea it's going to be a bad time for the tourism industry in the area sad
Quote by GnV
At least you learned how to use the spell checker and do complex cut and past wink

Hmmm, it seems you haven't mastered the spell checker yet though innocent
Quote by MidsCouple24
First problem I see is what happens when the government tell you, you MUST take responsibility for you aged parents or your invalid siblings who are claiming benefits,

Quote by MidsCouple24
It is a nice idea but one I fear would not work and would not make the savings we would hope for.

Jed I think you are barking up the wrong tree there. The question was:
Quote by flower411
shouldn`t a family with the means to support their relatives do just that before turning to the benefit system ?

Surely the government don't have to tell you to help out your own family? And by helping your family instead of them turning to the state straight away wouldn't some money be saved?
Quote by Max777
Are you suggesting that every passenger would be weighed at the airport? Given that more and more airlines are moving away from airport check ins in order to reduce costs, this would seem very unlikely .

This is exactly what happens with the samoan airline. They physically weigh the passenger on the baggage weight machine at the check in. Last time I checked Hold luggage in they weighed each bag individually, so in effect there is only one more bag being weighed per passenger and therefore not beyond the realms of possibility or ability.
Yes but it's a very small airline, flying very small planes in which weight is a major factor and therefore everyone has to be weighed as a matter of course. They were doing this before they started charging by the kilo.
You asked Star if he was suggesting people should be weighed at the airport, and I have pointed out that this is a policy with one airline. The size of the airline doesn't really matter, it's a demonstration that the idea could work. There is a video of it .
Within the same article there are more indications of how the airlines are attempting to cut the costs of fuel:
'Air Canada estimates that for each kilogram it removes from one of its Boeing 763 aircraft, it will save 3,925 kilograms of fuel every year'.
'WestJet Airlines Ltd., for example, has gone to extraordinary measures to reduce weight, from shrinking the size of its in-flight magazine and printing it on lighter paper stock to using a lightweight paint on the aircraft. Simple things like switching to lighter service carts are saving roughly 1.8 million litres in fuel a year'.
I think that there is some scope for the idea, and if the airline can save more money by using weight based fares than it would need to spend to run the system then surely it's even more likely.
Quote by Max777
Are you suggesting that every passenger would be weighed at the airport? Given that more and more airlines are moving away from airport check ins in order to reduce costs, this would seem very unlikely .

This is exactly what happens with the samoan airline. They physically weigh the passenger on the baggage weight machine at the check in. Last time I checked Hold luggage in they weighed each bag individually, so in effect there is only one more bag being weighed per passenger and therefore not beyond the realms of possibility or ability.
We already support each other as best we can.
As an example we recently had a new kitchen installed. We bought it with a staff discount through a cousin. Mrs T's dad's cousin installed it as he is a kitchen fitter. My cousin carried out the electrical side of things and one of my sisters did the plumbing and I did the rest. The net result is that we paid only 40% of the cost we were quoted for purchase and installation.
When my youngest brother was interested in getting on the property ladder a brother and another sister and I helped him get a mortgage. We all went on the mortgage with him as he would never have been able to get it on his own as a student and poor income at the time. Five years later and he owns the property outright and none of us is a penny out of pocket.
Two years ago when we moved from Scotland a second cousin of mine I had not seen in nearly 20 years and who had never met Mrs T offered her a job, and she is still working there.
These are all examples of how our extended family already tries to help one another, but I suspect any family would do the same if they could.
I will make the assumption therefore that you mean in terms of money when someone loses their job? Around 18 months ago yet another cousin (I have an unbelievably large family!) found himself suddenly unemployed. He struggled hard to find any gainful employment and a chance conversation with an old friend, led to a suggestion of applying to a large supermarket nearby. A friend of my friend offered him a job, nothing fantastic, but a regular wage and since then he has been able to motivate himself into becoming a prison officer. Whilst things weren't so good however he was a baby sitting, gutter clearing, family dogsbody. He wouldn't take assistance, so he earnt it from us.
Quote by GnV
He probably fucks them off, like he does everyone on here....

Not me. However the constant bickering between you pair does get boring!
Quote by MidsCouple24
My understanding of Aryan is a belief in a Causican Master Race.

Like Napoleon the First perhaps? Oh, my mistake, he was Corsican innocent
I'm no fan of IDS. I think he is arrogant and up his own arse, but in fairness to the guy he has been completely misquoted on this occasion.
The today programme is still available for the next 5 days and IDS was asked the question at the 2h 37m point.
He was asked 'could you survive on £53 per week and he replied 'If I had to I would'. Which is no different to the rest of us and in my view a perfectly reasonable answer. We would all do it if we had too, because what's the alternative? Not to survive maybe?
What's worth remembering in this case is that the guy that asked the question, through the presenter, is getting £52 per week in housing benefit to assist with his rent. It is not his only income and there is no mention in the interview as to what other benefits he receives or may be eligible for. I suspect that through his employment and (possible) other benefits that he does have more than £53 per week to survive on.
Quote by MidsCouple24
Hey it was you that was starting to believe you might have facist tendancies and saying you might have, I was just making the point as I said that I seriously doubt you would be thinking along the lines facists do with the exception of believing in your Nation. In order to be a facist you would have to believe in the things I asked in the questions so now you have your answer, your a Patriot not a facist because as I suspected you do not believe in all the things the facist believe in. You did ask for the idiot version lol idiots need things put bluntly most of the time wink

The trouble is you are trying to define fascism based on your own and wikipedias belief. Try reading and you might find, like me, that it's not exactly clear cut.
Quote by MidsCouple24
Well yes but most people believe in their own Nation apparently not as much as we used to as we have given it away and we are now part of a larger nation being just a state within the EU.

So joining the EU is a good thing then? because we are less likely to fight our traditional warring partners.
Quote by MidsCouple24
It is joining that belief in your nation with the feeling that you have to take your nation by force under one leader, a dictator and turning it into a military state, Germany, Italy during the 1930s, Argentian under Galtieri, Russia under Stalin, giving your chosen leader indisputable power, the mass mobilization of the national community.
Fascist movements share certain common features, including the veneration of the state, a devotion to a strong leader, and an emphasis on ultranationalism, ethnocentrism, and militarism. Fascism views political violence, war, and imperialism as a means to achieve national rejuvenation - do you believe we should do that ? (1) get out of our current economic situation by invading other countries, using violence towards those we think responsibe in part for our situation (for many that would be the Poles and Asians). (2)

Wow, not wikipedia. But not your words either.
However I'll answer your questions thus:
1: I do not support the use of war, political violence or imperialism. Where do you get the idea that I do?
2: Our present situation is dire. But I believe our own people are responsible for that, after all they tended to work in our City.
Quote by MidsCouple24
Do you believe that the Military should run this country under a dictator ?
Did I say I do? No I believe I did not.
Quote by MidsCouple24
The typical fascist state also embraced militarism, a belief in the rigors and virtues of military life as an individual and national ideal, meaning much of public life is organized along military lines and an emphasis is put on uniforms, parades, and monumental architecture. are you ready to don your uniform and report for training ?

What a stupid question.
Quote by MidsCouple24
Not in the slightest, because I doubt you believe in the things that make the difference between National Pride and Facism.

Apart from trying to confuse and dazzle me with many colours; You'll have to treat me like an idiot here, many do anyway lol
fascism is fundamentally a belief in your own nation is it not?
There may be some truth in the rumour that because the US has been late for the last two World Wars, they are trying to make up for it by pre-empting the next. :scared:
My understanding of fascism is that it is a belief in the totalitarian state?
If I am on the right tracks with this belief then fascism and racism are only divided by your belief in the racial mix of your state surely?
I believe in the greatest country in the world being where I live, because I live in the UK and I have great people around me. Is that not the basis of fascism?
Is growing a beard not the most uncomfortable part of nature for a man?
The damn itching is ridiculous, can't wait to get past it!
Quote by foxylady2209
Let's not lose sight of the fact that this individual KNEW it was dark and KNEW she was in an area not set up for 'customers' to use. Therefore she should have taken extra care of her OWN safety. She didn't - she fell. Tough.
Exploring dark corners of outside places is part of her job. Why did she not get the torch from her car? I'm pretty sure a torch would be a standard part of the police equipment. She chose not to supply herself with appropriate safety equipment. Tough.

Sorry Foxy, but I have to correct you slightly for the highlighted part.
I know this particular garage and I was last a customer there about four weeks ago. If any of you would like to search google maps for 172 bury road, Thetford you will see the garage. It's now operated by someone else but apart from that nothing else has changed. As you face the garage from the A134 you can see the car wash area to the right of the garage. It was in this area, between the two sloped fence panels at the rear end of the wash area that the PC tripped over the kerb that defines the edge of the car wash. So it is an 'area set up for customers'.
You will also notice a number of street lights in the area and I can personally testify to there being enough light for a rather drunken me to wander through the area several times at silly o clock in the morning in recent weeks!
Quote by starlightcouple
Rogue if a police officer came into your home it does become their place of work, and that would apply to any professional that entered your home to do a job of work.

No domestic dwelling is covered by the auspices of the HASAWA. If the HASAWA applied to domestioc dwellings then no person would ever be saved from fire as the firefighters would have to stay outside.
The attending emergency services must carry out there own risk assessment and ensure that they undertake activities commensurate with that assessment.
Every police officer is issued with a torch, so if this PC has failed to risk assess and implement a safe system of work, (ie turn the bloody torch in so she can see where she is going) she has not ensured her own safety.