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thats just too odd

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St George killed Dragons. Wales and England had dragons as symbols. Therefore St Georga was a way of rubbing the nose of the dragon states in the fact that they were becoming the slaves of Normans.

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If it were me, I'd pay for a few hours in a recording studio, with the services of an engineer. You see these advertised as "Record your own cd Gift Days" - but you can get exactly the same thing cheaper and more low-key in local recording studios.

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I reckon whatever criticisms the film may incite, which are pretty much typical for most Burton films I'm looking forward to it. Only seen the trailer so far (and in 2D unfortunately) but along with Shutter Island, Lovely Bones and MicMacs I wanna see it... Can't be any worse the Wolfman...lol
PS - much like others, I had that same thought about the thread title, did ya have to plant that vision of Roy Chubby Brown in my head, gotta try and focus on bouncy332's avatar instead...that's better...

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I reckon whatever criticisms the film may incite, which are pretty much typical for most Burton films I'm looking forward to it. Only seen the trailer so far (and in 2D unfortunately) but along with Shutter Island, Lovely Bones and MicMacs I wanna see it... Can't be any worse the Wolfman...lol
PS - much like others, I had that same thought about the thread title, did ya have to plant that vision of Roy Chubby Brown in my head, gotta try and focus on bouncy332's avatar instead...that's better...

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i'm guessing no-one saw the program on tv the other night about a male orca called luna? he was a wild whale who lost his pod as a calf. when he couldn't find them he searched for someone/thing to be company. it just so happened that that company happened to be humans. i have never smiled so much at a wild animal before and the way he was was truely astounding. however, what was more astounding is the way the authorities treated this whale and the people. they got him and the people so confused that he didn't know what to do. he never posed a danger to people when he had 'friends' but as soon as the people in the know said 'stop touching him, don't even look at him' he started getting rowdy.
it was beautiful to see this giant play and be so gentle by choice, but heartbreaking to see him confussed by human stupidity. yes he could have been dangerous but he chose people, he didn't have to perform for them but he ended up dead because of them all to keep him 'wild'. there was alot more to it, but too much to tell here. i'm sure the program will be repeated somewhere.
when people start to realise that these are creatures that should grace our oceans and not be captive for entertainment then it will be a better place. the whale that killed the girl shouldn't be destroyed for what he did, but maybe to save him from the life he doesn't have if he can't be retrurned to the sea.
whips

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run around......................................now

i got another on the tip of my tongue but the bugger just won't fall out me gob driving me nuts

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A friends loss :-(

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So sorry, I've tried to stop myself :uhoh:
But just can't resist :cool:
Such a bad thread title
ALICE??
Who the F**k is Alice??
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

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it would be a shame if it doesnt get shown it looks amazing i think odeon and cineworld are the ones boycotting it luckily wigan has an empire so we should get to see it

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it would be a shame if it doesnt get shown it looks amazing i think odeon and cineworld are the ones boycotting it luckily wigan has an empire so we should get to see it

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is it wrong that i'm sooooooo rediculously excited to see the new Alice in wonderland film

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Maybe we should have another forum where you can say anything you like?
Please................oh please..........

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i ran a thread similar to this a couple of weeks ago, some replied with good opinion while others just said if you don't like it ignore it, and then those who missed the point entirely either through reading with an incorrect context or by choice. that seems to be the general consensus of the site, if you don't like it ignore it or leave. so what's the point of trying to encourage open debate? i think enough people in the forum have said they feel they can't say what they want openly. that in itself should speak volumes but instead is brushed over and ignored, moderatored or banned.
personally i like the bebates, i've enjoyed the fox hunting one of flower's immencely and at some point i shall also post in there. it's good when they flow and people don't get aggressive or abusive. it's harsh though when others feel as though they can't post incase of ridicule of some form or another. i'm with bouncy and others who go to reply and then press the delete button as i also think 'what's the point?' not because it's a bad thread or that others have already said certain points, but because the feeling of freedom to my opinion is nolonger there. it's been mentioned about followers in this thread and my name has even been mentioned in relation to that. not that i have a problem with that. what i do have a problem with is that one person can say something and others first,second and third it and so on. however, if someone else writes something they would like to see changed and others agree with that post and say so it's seen as hounding, pointless, tiresome, critisium and having a dig. people feel the way they do for a reason and even if one person feels that way it's doesn't make them wrong. nore is it wrong to speak of it openly, or at least it shouldn't be but we are told that it is. when people are brushed over, ignored, told to like it or lump it, it causes resentment, frustration, disquiet, and lack of incentive. this then shows in posting style which other people then have a go about.
the talk of cliques and groups is very evident in the site whether people admit to it or not. there are also those who do appear to be above moderation but again when it's mentioned people are disregarded. other people's actions and reaction in the site are also spoken about with regard to 'face-to-face'. personally there are some people in here who i would have alot more to say to face-to-face should the inflection of their words come over in r/l as they do in here. that way they can't hide behind anything, it's right there for you to hear exactly how it was meant be it good or bad. there is also alot of talk about 'the good old days', i'm sorry but i don't see what was so different about the past. when i've looked through old threads i've seen just as much bickering, backbiting and digs going on as i do now. in actual fact some of the recent resurected posts show exactly the double edge some of us have been talking about. so that has always been there too.
BIoke you talk of staying in the AUP and respecting others, but that should work all ways and there are quite a few who feel that it doesn't. again people can't say that they are wrong in what they feel as they have been made to feel that way by situations.
i'm sure that most of my post will be read as me having a dig and so be it even though it's not. but really i haven't said everything i would have liked to. why? because i am not free to say how i feel. how do i know? because that is what i have been told.
it is sometimes a joy to be in this forum and there are times when i laugh so much my cheeks hurt. but at other times it's just hard work.
whips

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i saw the first episode of this when it was first aired. i was looking forward to seeing it to see how they would deal with the challenges. there was a lord such-n-such who was a complete arse and stayed in hotels and got angry at the program makers for finding him out. he made a mockery of what the program was trying to do. i did think that some of the celebs were trying to take it seriously while others were very lame considering they were only going it for such a short time compaired to the people who have no choice.
i buy the big issue, i've also given the money to my son and he has gone and bought it too. i think though that alot of people were jaded about giving as at one time (in doncaster) alot of people were begging as a job. i'd heard them talking about it on the buses, best places to go, how much they had got, tricks of the trade and so on. these people weren't homeless, just taking advantage of people's kindness. in the end i stopped givening money. instead i would buy them food and a coffee, or food for their begging tool, a sad looking dog. it still beats me why anyone who can not feed themself would have a dog but i suppose if they had the dog already when they became homeless but again, in doncaster, there was a spate of people begging with dogs.
i'm not going to judge anyone for drinking or taking drugs, sometimes anything to escape and all that. but i would hate to think i had funded it. i'm also amazed at how many smoke who beg too. you'd think food and shelter would be more important. again this is why i started giving food and a hot drink instead.
anyone can end up in a situation that renders them homeless and anyone who can survive it and change their situation has my deepest respect. i also agree that lottery money should not go to the arts, let the toffs fund their own entertainment. it could be much better used for hostels and revamping run down houses for the homeless. they can do it for the imagrants, why not our own people?
whips