Also when they do go on a break they never tell us what to do whilst they are away, or in the event that they never come back.
It seems a bit one sided nay slightly irresponsible to leave us to our own devices when they swan off doing exactly what pleases them. Which in this case is nothing more for the time being.
I mean we are left to assume something which may not necessarily be what they want us to assume. having made an exit of sorts, it seems contradictory to come back almost immediately to put us right in our imaginings.
Although many do return having had a break and soon take up their old roles and status as if they had never gome away.
So I wonder if having a break or simply not joining in are any different?
Ho hum up your bum.
There's only one way to deal with this problem.
Start a brand new swinging site that is free and does everything the 'old site' used to do?
The idea that the forums were at some point better than now can only come down to indivdual appreciation. It just seems like that. Those who are currently whoopdedooing it now may well take that viewpoint in a year or so.
Fairly soon we'll be saying 'the forums just aren't what they were 15 minutes ago'.
I do some standard dating agencies with occasional success. But recently I have taken to simply doing things and letting people know that is what I am doing, where and when. It works some of the time. But its better than all this endless communications by email mobiles etc.
If people are having sex for real, its not porn is it? Its what it is, not produced for your entertainment?
not so much of a clique, but more a flavour of the moment, selective notion. which attracts whatever participants that are available and willing to 'work' the idea.
usually it runs out of steam pretty quickly as it falters on basic logic, lack of constructive debate and the fundamentally poor origination of the topic.
good topics create interesting debate, poorly designed ones encourage arguments.
you find women and men hookering in all aspects of life. the specialists aren't found on a site like this though.
there were several women operating in the sites early days. i got a few pms from some. they are probably still operating now under new logins.
but as for the surprise on discovering them, it doesn't cause me concern.
I think many originate in observations of repeated things, and a simplistic 'law' has developed around them. Some seem to tie in closely with prime numbers and whole number mathematics. So that people's restless thinking, has created this predictive process. Some are happy some are sad, some full of doom. there was a superstition for just about anything at one time.
but it hasn't left us completely. you only need to see a group of it engineers hanging about a new installation and you will hear them stating superstitions all over again, as they worry about the outcome of their work.
Even with supposedly enlightened thinking going on about us, there are many who are not happy with it, and go on to form newer enlightments. because they doubt the current enlightment. that's probably the closest thing to superstition.
of course the other side of the argument is that if something which should easily be explained, but can't be somehow, then we feel at liberty to welcome the 'science' of conspiracy theory.
if the general feeling is that such things are not logical or rational etc. then its also not easy to rationalise them.
i think many are 'gut feelings' and 'instinctive' responses. why do you make some decisions in a different way to others. and would you do so in an emergency etc.
so 'folk lore' simply provides some kind of history and legacy to these things. keeping them as a store of behaviourial monitors or such like.
even the most rational people will exercise some sense of caution why?
there has to be something in it. and it has more relevance in different parts of the world, and with different peoples.
if mcdonalds changed business its what they would produce.
that is what you eat when you are in italy, in august and on a diet. or when wacked out o coke and hunger is a dim memory.
actually these dieticians and celebrity chefs and such would do better, advising the animals we eat, about their diets and preparing meals accordingly for them.
in the end it leads me to conclude that there is a secrecy fetish/kink going on. that its needed for people to have fun.
after all if you really want something secret you keep it so.
if you want to hold people on tenterhooks you drop the hint and they go into the required response.
being invited into to someone else's secrecy is not always as simple as it is presented. Somewhere down the line there may be an awkward compromise at the least.
Also the idea that you may eventually get to know them and they you is not necesarily true. you are only sharing a secret. so you may never find out who they really are, and why they are doing what they do in such a manner.
So whilst it may seem an open and honest gesture to make, it can't be in reality, because of the nature of what it is. a practised deceit. a professional lie.
A lot of people don't care either way and learn to live with this as they discover it in people.
At times it seems to me, to be more of a warning than an attraction.
you and the people you are meeting decide who will book the room. then you agree on who pays what to whom. there is no cheating anyone.
there is no sneaking about, you just go about using the rooms as a sensible guest. any kind of silly behaviour or talk will simply make you feel and look extremely foolish.
otherwise the enjoyment is yours.
tubular bells 50p from virgin, early 1970's. after that i gave up!
it would probably be better to avoid joining in such types of thread in the future.
also i think it needs to be considered as to how much you let an organisation determine some aspects of your life.
Its not really practicable to consider bi as a main feature of a typical swinging profile. To be a practising bi would involve a group of at least 2 males and 2 females in any combination at any time, meeting enough to say that its truly the mainstay of your sex life.
so a typical hetero couple will be dabbling on occasion, but is it enough to say 'yeah i'm bi'
i have played with guys in a couple but its never been enough in my life to say i'm a practising bi.
I think if your job is so important to you then do that and forget about swinging.
how much makeup and kit is being worn by these tv's?
its enough of a sweat trudging about rios, when your starkers.
with all that stuff on, its going to all get a bit scudsy by the end of a long night!
you are 100% gay brucie. you just don't know it yet. you'll find life a lot easier when you do.
How much 'clothing' are these guys wearing by the way?
So would it be fair to say that couples who advertise for big black men are primarily misguided as size seems to be more in favour of white men. yet its a comforting belief, so let's not spoil it.
That black guys are staying quiet on this one as the benefits outweigh the truth. that big white guys don't need to worry as they are already in demand?
That average sized buys are no better or worse off than before.
That the dildo business is expecting long running profits?
brucie! stop going to rios and you won't see such things anymore. get down to the way out club or stunners.
the thing is that if couple wants a gang bang with big cocks, they are more likely to advertise or welcome black guys. and also it appears they are more likely to be convinced with a black majority or eclusivity; that they are really getting the full monty.
do you think that the arse gravy is used for some special purpose? if its the worst then perhaps there is a better kind being used for heavens knows what. possibly writing harry potter or maybe barbara cartland was the purveyor of such.