I've enjoyed reading this thread, and especially getting hold of some of the suggestions and listening to them.
I wondered if there's any DJs on the Forum that have some views? When you know the tastes of the person(s) you're with it's easy to find great music for making whoopee to, but what about if you are only just getting to know each other? One person's music taste is another person's upchcuck anthem! If you're just getting it on the last thing you want is a disgareement over background sounds.
Seriously, are there any good general rules?
My uneducated guess might be -
- Jazz (gentle and not too experimental) seems generally ok - and unlike many types of music it's very straightforward to say you like or don't like it.
- An alternative might be fairly bland mainstream chart music?
- I'm thinking generally avoid things that a sizeable proportion of people have adverse reactions to - this includes stuff I love and stuff I hate, but in general I think it would include old cheesy stuff, rap, heavy metal, punk, techno and probably quite a few other flavours.
- I'd reckon no music at all is better than getting it wrong.
DJs and peeps in the biz maybe have a more objective view than the rest of us - can we pick their brains?
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Do you eat sushi?
Could you be tempted?
China has just outlawed 'naked sushi' meals. The authorities say the practice violates common decency and have banned restaurants from serving food on the bodies of naked women. The practice of eating sushi off naked or nearly-naked women has long been popular with a certain clientele in Japan. The authorities in the Chinese city of Kunming criticised it as both unhygienic and an infringement of women's rights. The Beijing Times newspaper said the new ban was introduced because serving food on women "insults people's moral quality".
What do you think that the Japanese practice only refers to women's bodies, not mens'?
Could you be tempted?
China has just outlawed 'naked sushi' meals. The authorities say the practice violates common decency and have banned restaurants from serving food on the bodies of naked women. The practice of eating sushi off naked or nearly-naked women has long been popular with a certain clientele in Japan. The authorities in the Chinese city of Kunming criticised it as both unhygienic and an infringement of women's rights. The Beijing Times newspaper said the new ban was introduced because serving food on women "insults people's moral quality".
What do you think that the Japanese practice only refers to women's bodies, not mens'?
I might get into trouble with the mods for posting this, but it is so interesting I wanted to share it with you. Maybe even makes sense as to why (some) men like the smell of women's panties or unwashed bits but not vice versa . . .
Support for the idea of human sex pheromones
IT IS every perfume-maker's dream to find a spray that plugs straight into the hypothalamus—the part of the brain responsible for libido. Unfortunately, evidence for such brain-manipulating chemicals in humans is inconclusive. But it is not non-existent. General body odour, which is controlled by part of the immune system called the major histocompatibility complex (MHC), is known to be involved in sexual attractiveness in several species, and some research suggests mankind is one of them. In addition, studies using brain scanners have found that smelling a chemical called androstadienone (AND) activates the hypothalamus in women, but not in men, whereas smelling estratetraenol (EST) activates it in men, but not women. AND is a derivative of testosterone that is found in men's sweat. EST is a cousin of oestrogen found in women's urine.
Two results that have emerged this week strengthen the idea that all these odours are indeed sexual—but with a novel twist because it comes from work that includes homosexuals as well as heterosexuals. A forthcoming paper in Psychological Science, by Charles Wysocki of the University of Pennsylvania and his colleagues, shows that gay men prefer the smell of sweat collected from the armpits of gay men and heterosexual women to that collected from heterosexual men. Similar odours from gay men, however, were the least preferred by heterosexual men and women. Meanwhile, Ivanka Savic of the Karolinska Institute in Stockholm and her colleagues reported in this week's Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences that the hypothalamuses of gay men in brain scanners respond to AND and EST in a similar way to those of straight women.
The second result is, perhaps, the less surprising. If the brains of gay men are attracted to other men through sight and sound, then why not through smell, too? But the idea that men can, in effect, smell gay is harder to explain. It may be because the MHC is affected in the womb by exposure to testosterone. If homosexuality is caused by unusual in-utero testosterone exposure (a plausible hypothesis), then the system that controls body odour may change in related and detectable ways.
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Support for the idea of human sex pheromones
IT IS every perfume-maker's dream to find a spray that plugs straight into the hypothalamus—the part of the brain responsible for libido. Unfortunately, evidence for such brain-manipulating chemicals in humans is inconclusive. But it is not non-existent. General body odour, which is controlled by part of the immune system called the major histocompatibility complex (MHC), is known to be involved in sexual attractiveness in several species, and some research suggests mankind is one of them. In addition, studies using brain scanners have found that smelling a chemical called androstadienone (AND) activates the hypothalamus in women, but not in men, whereas smelling estratetraenol (EST) activates it in men, but not women. AND is a derivative of testosterone that is found in men's sweat. EST is a cousin of oestrogen found in women's urine.
Two results that have emerged this week strengthen the idea that all these odours are indeed sexual—but with a novel twist because it comes from work that includes homosexuals as well as heterosexuals. A forthcoming paper in Psychological Science, by Charles Wysocki of the University of Pennsylvania and his colleagues, shows that gay men prefer the smell of sweat collected from the armpits of gay men and heterosexual women to that collected from heterosexual men. Similar odours from gay men, however, were the least preferred by heterosexual men and women. Meanwhile, Ivanka Savic of the Karolinska Institute in Stockholm and her colleagues reported in this week's Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences that the hypothalamuses of gay men in brain scanners respond to AND and EST in a similar way to those of straight women.
The second result is, perhaps, the less surprising. If the brains of gay men are attracted to other men through sight and sound, then why not through smell, too? But the idea that men can, in effect, smell gay is harder to explain. It may be because the MHC is affected in the womb by exposure to testosterone. If homosexuality is caused by unusual in-utero testosterone exposure (a plausible hypothesis), then the system that controls body odour may change in related and detectable ways.
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Thanks BlueEyes! PM BlueEyes or myself if you're coming from up north, BiPoisonDwarf if you're coming from down south - now we could still do with a local person to coordinate with some Manchester / NE folk - volunteers?
We can't sticky this page, so you might like to bookmark it - just add http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/43132.html to your favorites now and then you can find it easily!
We still need to decide whether to stick to Cupids orPartners for which nights - we'll see which is most popular. DremerHelen: sorry you can't make it this time Hon' . . . Bluexxx: understand it wasn't really your fault the Cupids thing - happy to intercede for you if we end up going there (or maybe we'll just stick to Partners).
x x x x x x
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We can't sticky this page, so you might like to bookmark it - just add http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/43132.html to your favorites now and then you can find it easily!
We still need to decide whether to stick to Cupids orPartners for which nights - we'll see which is most popular. DremerHelen: sorry you can't make it this time Hon' . . . Bluexxx: understand it wasn't really your fault the Cupids thing - happy to intercede for you if we end up going there (or maybe we'll just stick to Partners).
x x x x x x
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I would like to make a sensible and helpful warm post response to ths thread but i am too pissed and distracted by the flowing movement of my fingers over the keyboard lol ................................................................................................................DVO'IYHWRIF[VPUHHGBZDIFUJY
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Keeping the idea of all getting together and going down to the North of England, where swinging is the major social pastime 
:thumbup: , I've posted a draft proposal here . . .
Love n kisses
xxx Chris
:thumbup: , I've posted a draft proposal here . . .Love n kisses
xxx Chris
The recent Scottish Munch and Mini-Munch were sooooooo much fun!! But Scotland's on the move . . . We had lots of genuine friendship bonding and one of the ideas that came out of both sessions was to get together for a trip down to the North of England for a weekend of clubbing, 'munching' and getting together. Additionally, some swingers haven't been to a 'swingers club' yet, but would like to, or find out what it's about, and going along in a group would be a great way of being introduced gently and with experienced clubbers on hand to reassure you can enjoy as much or as little as you like and at your own speed. 
(Manchester has some of the friendliest clubs around, and as I have to be there for work in July, I'm happy to organise (unless someone else offers) and share both worlds so we can get together and hopefully even meet more of the lovely Northern contingent!)
Here's a proposed weekend, but this is not a final schedule, so do please send me ideas and preferences - not only as we need to know numbers but some options need more work to organise than others.
Have a glance through, and bear in mind you can do all of it or whichever bits and days you fancy or can manage - eg just vanilla social or clubbing or both, and just a day/evening or a whole weekend.
Evenings/late night:
Fri 22nd July: Cupids (couples & singles)
Sat 23rd July: Cupids (couples & singles)
Sun 24th July: Partners (couples only)
*Let me know which evenings you will be up for :D
It's a whole different atmosphere at a couples only night, so it's good to try both worlds if you can. is fabulous for beginners and regulars, and the staff are so friendly and so much fun they more or less guarantee to put everyone totally at ease within 30 seconds! has more facilities and is a bigger club experience, and an ideal choice for Sunday night and a great contrast if you can stay on. Cupids has a pool table should you just want to spend the night socialising or maybe watching, and Partners has a ginormous pool for fun and silliness as well as a more sedate clothed lounge. Both also have loads of action for those that are interested!
Early evenings:
Fri/Sat/Sun:
'Munch' style gatherings (we can't call them official munches on SH as it would mean we can't mention clubbing, which is a main reason behind this weekend, but usual munch rules apply and they will be social gatherings in a bar or similar and all regular SH posters are welcome). We can arrange a no obligation guest tour of Cupids on the Friday between 6&7pm, and of Partners (for couples only) on Sunday around 9pm. This gives you the chance to see inside before it's open and decide if you want to take the plunge! :D
*Let me know if you have strong preferences/ideas about whether to meet in central Manchester or near the clubs. :)
Daytime:
Sat and/or Sun:
Some options and ideas so far (mostly stuff I've had a ball doing before and know would be great fun!)
*Alton Towers (will cost about £30 including rides and transit from Manchester)
*Canal trip (lovely relaxing afternoon - only costs about a fiver a head)
*Clay Pigeon Shooting (out in the woods - costs about £65 inc minibus from town centre)
*Treasure Trail (a nice way of getting around town and trying to keep the brain in gear!)
*Gay Village (fab and free!)
*Let me know what you fancy, Sat/Sun prefs - or give me other suggestions (plenty of room for local help here if someone fancies organising any of this!) :D
The money bit
No-one makes any money out of this, but there's set overheads and it would be nice to have as many peeps here as possible, irrespective of how much spare change you have in your pockets!
So here's a rough guide:
Getting to Manchester:(hardly anything!!) :welcome:
Cheapest is by Megabus. For instance, their website offers £4 return (Glasgow) or £5 (Dundee)
Next cheapest is by ordinary bus or . Return train fares start at about £30 from Edinburgh or Glasgow, but these fares go quite fast!
I looked at minibus but it would cost about £20pp + petrol so getting ourselves organised in groups on public transport or getting together for car shares seems a better idea.
Staying in Manchester: (not bad, especially if you book ahead!) :sleeping:
Best value are Lodges - costs about £25 a night per person (or £50 a room). As you pay by the room there's no hassle if you want to invite peeps back for 'coffee' lol! Once we see the amount of interest I'll do a mailing of some accommodation options for participants.
Clubbing in Manchester: (not an expensive night out, at least for couples!)
Cupids: Couples £15 Admission Fri, £20 Sat, free membership;
Single Ladies £5 Admission, free membership;
Single Gentlemen £20 Admission + £50 annual membership.
Partners: Couples £20 Admission, free membership.
Cupids is about 6 miles from the city centre and Partners 10 miles, so there's public transport/taxi to add on, but not a fortune, especially if you share!
So whoooooooooo's interested?
OK, I'm still quite new to SH - more experienced organisers: what have I missed?
Can you assist us highlanders? We promise not to wear our kilts in the sauna, honest! If it's a bad idea we'll jes do it quietly oursel's . . .
(Manchester has some of the friendliest clubs around, and as I have to be there for work in July, I'm happy to organise (unless someone else offers) and share both worlds so we can get together and hopefully even meet more of the lovely Northern contingent!)
Here's a proposed weekend, but this is not a final schedule, so do please send me ideas and preferences - not only as we need to know numbers but some options need more work to organise than others.
Have a glance through, and bear in mind you can do all of it or whichever bits and days you fancy or can manage - eg just vanilla social or clubbing or both, and just a day/evening or a whole weekend.
Evenings/late night:
Fri 22nd July: Cupids (couples & singles)
Sat 23rd July: Cupids (couples & singles)
Sun 24th July: Partners (couples only)
*Let me know which evenings you will be up for :D
It's a whole different atmosphere at a couples only night, so it's good to try both worlds if you can. is fabulous for beginners and regulars, and the staff are so friendly and so much fun they more or less guarantee to put everyone totally at ease within 30 seconds! has more facilities and is a bigger club experience, and an ideal choice for Sunday night and a great contrast if you can stay on. Cupids has a pool table should you just want to spend the night socialising or maybe watching, and Partners has a ginormous pool for fun and silliness as well as a more sedate clothed lounge. Both also have loads of action for those that are interested!
Early evenings:
Fri/Sat/Sun:
'Munch' style gatherings (we can't call them official munches on SH as it would mean we can't mention clubbing, which is a main reason behind this weekend, but usual munch rules apply and they will be social gatherings in a bar or similar and all regular SH posters are welcome). We can arrange a no obligation guest tour of Cupids on the Friday between 6&7pm, and of Partners (for couples only) on Sunday around 9pm. This gives you the chance to see inside before it's open and decide if you want to take the plunge! :D
*Let me know if you have strong preferences/ideas about whether to meet in central Manchester or near the clubs. :)
Daytime:
Sat and/or Sun:
Some options and ideas so far (mostly stuff I've had a ball doing before and know would be great fun!)
*Alton Towers (will cost about £30 including rides and transit from Manchester)
*Canal trip (lovely relaxing afternoon - only costs about a fiver a head)
*Clay Pigeon Shooting (out in the woods - costs about £65 inc minibus from town centre)
*Treasure Trail (a nice way of getting around town and trying to keep the brain in gear!)
*Gay Village (fab and free!)
*Let me know what you fancy, Sat/Sun prefs - or give me other suggestions (plenty of room for local help here if someone fancies organising any of this!) :D
The money bit
No-one makes any money out of this, but there's set overheads and it would be nice to have as many peeps here as possible, irrespective of how much spare change you have in your pockets!
So here's a rough guide:
Getting to Manchester:(hardly anything!!) :welcome:
Cheapest is by Megabus. For instance, their website offers £4 return (Glasgow) or £5 (Dundee)
Next cheapest is by ordinary bus or . Return train fares start at about £30 from Edinburgh or Glasgow, but these fares go quite fast!
I looked at minibus but it would cost about £20pp + petrol so getting ourselves organised in groups on public transport or getting together for car shares seems a better idea.
Staying in Manchester: (not bad, especially if you book ahead!) :sleeping:
Best value are Lodges - costs about £25 a night per person (or £50 a room). As you pay by the room there's no hassle if you want to invite peeps back for 'coffee' lol! Once we see the amount of interest I'll do a mailing of some accommodation options for participants.
Clubbing in Manchester: (not an expensive night out, at least for couples!)
Cupids: Couples £15 Admission Fri, £20 Sat, free membership;
Single Ladies £5 Admission, free membership;
Single Gentlemen £20 Admission + £50 annual membership.
Partners: Couples £20 Admission, free membership.
Cupids is about 6 miles from the city centre and Partners 10 miles, so there's public transport/taxi to add on, but not a fortune, especially if you share!
So whoooooooooo's interested?
OK, I'm still quite new to SH - more experienced organisers: what have I missed?
Can you assist us highlanders? We promise not to wear our kilts in the sauna, honest! If it's a bad idea we'll jes do it quietly oursel's . . .
Just to add to the others who have said ta to beautiful BlueEyes for organising, to Ken and Lovely Lucy for getting it together in the first place, and to the other gorgeous people who made my night with kisses 'n' snuggles or even turned up to help and make it a successful mini.
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Missed this thread earlier when it started - have been doing a bit of reading on the creative process for some of my own projects - there's quite a bit of stuff available on it that you can apply to any sort of problem solving. Don't want to get too serious on here but PM me if anyone wants to chat about it please.
What Tania described may be a thrill, I don't know, but it is quite different from what is commonly known as erotic asphyxiation. Asphyxia is a lack of oxygen to the brain, however caused - it doesn't have to be from stopping breathing. You can find some entries on it in the academic literature, in advanced martial arts holds, in films such as 'In the Realm of the Senses' and in some self-deliverance literature (ie suicide methods for th terminally ill). In writing about it I am not in any way recommending it, but think it is good to be clear on what is what.
The method involves compression (on the neck) of the carotid arteries or jugular veins or both. The pressure needed to stop the blood flow is *far less* than is required to interfere with breathing so does not cause the unpleasant side effect of feeling the need to gasp for air - and herein also lies the danger. After a few seconds of pressure - it can be as little as 15 seconds - the lack of oxgenated blood to the brain causes unconsciousness and, if prolonged, death. The feeling is akin to swooning. When the carotid artery is pressed, it stops the flow of blood to the brain directly; when the jugular veins are compressed, it causes a 'road-block' so that the blood cannot circulate out of the brain to allow fresh oxygenated blood in.
People who engage in this (very dangerous) practice seek to prolong the moment before consciousness is lost, possibly timing it with orgasm. Getting it wrong can cause brain damage or death, and there is very little time for the recipient to indicate any warning, even if they are skilled at doing so. Possibly if both persons have advanced knowledge of the martial arts hold it could be done with a greater degree of safety but it is hardly a fun fetish - this is extreme sports.
Holding the breath (oneself) might be a safer way of trying to get a similar result. The body's automatic reflexes will cut in before you pass out.
Take care.
The method involves compression (on the neck) of the carotid arteries or jugular veins or both. The pressure needed to stop the blood flow is *far less* than is required to interfere with breathing so does not cause the unpleasant side effect of feeling the need to gasp for air - and herein also lies the danger. After a few seconds of pressure - it can be as little as 15 seconds - the lack of oxgenated blood to the brain causes unconsciousness and, if prolonged, death. The feeling is akin to swooning. When the carotid artery is pressed, it stops the flow of blood to the brain directly; when the jugular veins are compressed, it causes a 'road-block' so that the blood cannot circulate out of the brain to allow fresh oxygenated blood in.
People who engage in this (very dangerous) practice seek to prolong the moment before consciousness is lost, possibly timing it with orgasm. Getting it wrong can cause brain damage or death, and there is very little time for the recipient to indicate any warning, even if they are skilled at doing so. Possibly if both persons have advanced knowledge of the martial arts hold it could be done with a greater degree of safety but it is hardly a fun fetish - this is extreme sports.
Holding the breath (oneself) might be a safer way of trying to get a similar result. The body's automatic reflexes will cut in before you pass out.
Take care.
This is a French film currently on selected release. I thought it was rather good (as well as quite raunchy) so have tried to put some thoughts down for forum members. (I try to write 'reviews' sometimes mostly to try and expand my writing skills, but also as a way of keeping track of movies I see.)
Would appreciate feedback (whether you've seen the film or not) if anyone thinks I've expressed some of these concepts badly.
Ta x
Chris
Wild side
Confronting and acknowledging other sexualities often stems either from an intimate awareness of other orientations on one hand, or a determined political correctness on the other. Wild side, a film of haunting images and an unusual love triangle, opts for the former.
As the film opens, the camera pans slowly over a naked body of someone asleep. The gaze is quite sensual, but the figure fairly androgynous. The curve of a bosom appears, reassuringly female, and then we see the penis of the sleeping form a few moments later. Cut to a Parisienne bar where an audience of transsexuals listen enraptured to the almost operatic quality of a singer lamenting a dead lover ("I Fell in Love with a Dead Boy"), the song ending with the question, "Was he a boy or a girl?"
Wild side proceeds to alternate between scenes of exquisite beauty, such as a figure running through a lush field - to scenes of tawdry sexuality, like a quick blow-job in a red light area. We meet Stephanie, a transsexual who has been reduced to turning tricks as a prostitute. The flashbacks show her as a young boy, Pierre. As the story develops, we see her leaving Paris to care for her terminally ill mother, together with her new Russian boyfriend Mikhail. They are soon joined by her friend Djamel, a bisexual male who has also been working as a prostitute in Paris.
Wild side is beautifully photographed. The French countryside and imaginative camera angles are complemented by excellent and typically unpretentious French acting which draws a clear distinction between the intimacy of lovers and the functionality of the paid sex, even when conducted with as much courtesy as the situation (and clients) allows. But it is the focus on the ordinary, gentle emotions of Stephanie and her two companions, whether to each other or their family, that helps the audience put Stephanie's transexuality into perspective and this is one of the not inconsiderable achievements of the film. We see her primarily as a person and, most importantly, as a woman. There is never anywhere the feeling that 'she' is really 'he' - and it is no effort of political correctness, simply a fact. Stephanie is a woman, emotionally to her mother (who has to come to terms with the change), and also in sharp contrast to the two men (Mikhail and Djamel) in her life. She is a woman who used to be a boy and she still has a penis (which she uses sometimes). Perhaps the recognition of Stephanie being 'she' is nowhere more forcefully apparent than in a fairly crude scene where a voyeur, paying Stephanie to perform sex with Mikhail, tells Mikhail to "f*ck *her*" and then to "jack her off" while he's doing so.
Ultimately, we realise the world of tenderness between Stephanie and her mother, and between her and her lovers, is one that a casual view of her persona would have missed. We are easily obsessed by someone's sexuality when it is not the same as our own - and to the extent that it is hard to see beyond it. In the early days of homophobic social interaction, gay people are simply seen by heterosexuals as people who have sex with persons of the same gender - that image is forefront, even though the same heterosexuals would never dream of continually thinking when meeting a new straight acquaintance, "this is a person who has sex with people of the opposite gender"!
With Stephanie, the outward flim-flam is two-fold - firstly she is transsexual, and that is difficult to see past for anyone who has never got to know a transsexual as a friend, as another human being. Secondly, she works (or has spent time working) as a prostitute - something we would normally see tattooed on someone's forehead immediately that fact was known. Both these things have affected her life, but they are not the most central thing to her character. They are her 'wild side' perhaps, but one which - at least to her mother, for instance, is of little consequence.
Would appreciate feedback (whether you've seen the film or not) if anyone thinks I've expressed some of these concepts badly.
Ta x
Chris
Wild side
Confronting and acknowledging other sexualities often stems either from an intimate awareness of other orientations on one hand, or a determined political correctness on the other. Wild side, a film of haunting images and an unusual love triangle, opts for the former.
As the film opens, the camera pans slowly over a naked body of someone asleep. The gaze is quite sensual, but the figure fairly androgynous. The curve of a bosom appears, reassuringly female, and then we see the penis of the sleeping form a few moments later. Cut to a Parisienne bar where an audience of transsexuals listen enraptured to the almost operatic quality of a singer lamenting a dead lover ("I Fell in Love with a Dead Boy"), the song ending with the question, "Was he a boy or a girl?"
Wild side proceeds to alternate between scenes of exquisite beauty, such as a figure running through a lush field - to scenes of tawdry sexuality, like a quick blow-job in a red light area. We meet Stephanie, a transsexual who has been reduced to turning tricks as a prostitute. The flashbacks show her as a young boy, Pierre. As the story develops, we see her leaving Paris to care for her terminally ill mother, together with her new Russian boyfriend Mikhail. They are soon joined by her friend Djamel, a bisexual male who has also been working as a prostitute in Paris.
Wild side is beautifully photographed. The French countryside and imaginative camera angles are complemented by excellent and typically unpretentious French acting which draws a clear distinction between the intimacy of lovers and the functionality of the paid sex, even when conducted with as much courtesy as the situation (and clients) allows. But it is the focus on the ordinary, gentle emotions of Stephanie and her two companions, whether to each other or their family, that helps the audience put Stephanie's transexuality into perspective and this is one of the not inconsiderable achievements of the film. We see her primarily as a person and, most importantly, as a woman. There is never anywhere the feeling that 'she' is really 'he' - and it is no effort of political correctness, simply a fact. Stephanie is a woman, emotionally to her mother (who has to come to terms with the change), and also in sharp contrast to the two men (Mikhail and Djamel) in her life. She is a woman who used to be a boy and she still has a penis (which she uses sometimes). Perhaps the recognition of Stephanie being 'she' is nowhere more forcefully apparent than in a fairly crude scene where a voyeur, paying Stephanie to perform sex with Mikhail, tells Mikhail to "f*ck *her*" and then to "jack her off" while he's doing so.
Ultimately, we realise the world of tenderness between Stephanie and her mother, and between her and her lovers, is one that a casual view of her persona would have missed. We are easily obsessed by someone's sexuality when it is not the same as our own - and to the extent that it is hard to see beyond it. In the early days of homophobic social interaction, gay people are simply seen by heterosexuals as people who have sex with persons of the same gender - that image is forefront, even though the same heterosexuals would never dream of continually thinking when meeting a new straight acquaintance, "this is a person who has sex with people of the opposite gender"!
With Stephanie, the outward flim-flam is two-fold - firstly she is transsexual, and that is difficult to see past for anyone who has never got to know a transsexual as a friend, as another human being. Secondly, she works (or has spent time working) as a prostitute - something we would normally see tattooed on someone's forehead immediately that fact was known. Both these things have affected her life, but they are not the most central thing to her character. They are her 'wild side' perhaps, but one which - at least to her mother, for instance, is of little consequence.
1. On the dance floor in a public disco, smooching towards the side of the floor as we danced, her in long wrap around skirt with nae knicks, me with long duster coat that I wrapped around her
2. (not that unusual) my one and only Mile High Club experience en route London to USA, we'd just met each other, bit of fumbling under the blankets then an almost unspken desire to join the 'club'. One of the most awkward shags I've ever had but somehow we managed (someone should write a book an how to shag in a airplane loo!). The stewards lined up outside making sure no-one knocked and didn't bat an eyelid as we walked out.
3. On a deserted beach in Bali - nice but usual stuff of trying to avoid sand in those itchy lil places! Fabulous view.
4. On a castle ramparts out in the English countryside - one of my faves. We had to cut it short as a phalanx of pensioners appeared over a distant hill on their day trip out (presumably heading for the castle. (There's a great sacrificial stone at Craigmillar castle I'd love to try on a quiet day though!)
5. In the middle of a holly bush when I was 18. OK, at that age with nowhere to go, despeartion takes hold. Even with a blanket you have to be very careful not to get pricked, but they do have a hollw area inside which gives you some protection from prying eyes!
6. Down a side street in daytime busy London - she'd just gone down in me during a movie and we took a chance the minute we came outyside.
7. The top bunk of a backpacker hotel . . .
. . . . these are getting less unusual now - c'mon, someone else give me some ideas. I used to have a fantasy about doing on the top deck of a bus bit it's a bit harder now they have closed circuit video cameras . . .
2. (not that unusual) my one and only Mile High Club experience en route London to USA, we'd just met each other, bit of fumbling under the blankets then an almost unspken desire to join the 'club'. One of the most awkward shags I've ever had but somehow we managed (someone should write a book an how to shag in a airplane loo!). The stewards lined up outside making sure no-one knocked and didn't bat an eyelid as we walked out.
3. On a deserted beach in Bali - nice but usual stuff of trying to avoid sand in those itchy lil places! Fabulous view.
4. On a castle ramparts out in the English countryside - one of my faves. We had to cut it short as a phalanx of pensioners appeared over a distant hill on their day trip out (presumably heading for the castle. (There's a great sacrificial stone at Craigmillar castle I'd love to try on a quiet day though!)
5. In the middle of a holly bush when I was 18. OK, at that age with nowhere to go, despeartion takes hold. Even with a blanket you have to be very careful not to get pricked, but they do have a hollw area inside which gives you some protection from prying eyes!
6. Down a side street in daytime busy London - she'd just gone down in me during a movie and we took a chance the minute we came outyside.
7. The top bunk of a backpacker hotel . . .
. . . . these are getting less unusual now - c'mon, someone else give me some ideas. I used to have a fantasy about doing on the top deck of a bus bit it's a bit harder now they have closed circuit video cameras . . .
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Woohoo, first post I've started, I think.
Anyway, I was in tesco earlier in the checkout queue and saw the woman in the queue opposite start expertly peeling a banana before eating it.
Anyway, I had to bite my tongue, leaving a rather painful mark in order to stop myself giggling at this. I start to worry if I'm either simple, sad or blessed with a very dirty mind.
You are blessed with a dirty mind that longs to clean itself. Bananas are one of the few fruit (as anyone who has travelled in India knows) that are always pristine and untouched by human hand. Personally, I always unroll my foreskin before offering it to anyone and suggest you do the same with bananas.
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Ooooo that avatar gave me a lovely mid-morning giggle, Lucy!
Fabby hugs to BlueEyes for taking on the Munch (just for the record, no, I hadn't offered to do it - only to help in case it needed it - am too rushed off feet unless necessity calls!)
You were all great for putting up with me at the last one, so I'll be back for more wonderful smiles/hugs. Wheee - good to look forward to seeing peeps and meeting and speaking to ones I didn't manage to last time and new faces too of course!
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
Fabby hugs to BlueEyes for taking on the Munch (just for the record, no, I hadn't offered to do it - only to help in case it needed it - am too rushed off feet unless necessity calls!)
You were all great for putting up with me at the last one, so I'll be back for more wonderful smiles/hugs. Wheee - good to look forward to seeing peeps and meeting and speaking to ones I didn't manage to last time and new faces too of course!
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
One of the most visually amusing of the blight of useless tests. It doesn't let you cut and paste the results as far as I can see but apparently I'm a cross between a St Bernard's and some strange German breed with lots of charming characteristics . . .
Yank the peeps about a bit using mouse to work doglead etc then click WHAT DOG ARE YOU? on the right hand side.
xx Chris
Yank the peeps about a bit using mouse to work doglead etc then click WHAT DOG ARE YOU? on the right hand side.
xx Chris
There's some great reading and statistics on this in the Hite Report.
I'd also recommend the one on Male Sexuality for anyone who likes to know and read about these things. Both a bit dated now in the style, but still great on how-common-such-and-such is. (And you can pick them up for a few bob or remaindered).
I'd also recommend the one on Male Sexuality for anyone who likes to know and read about these things. Both a bit dated now in the style, but still great on how-common-such-and-such is. (And you can pick them up for a few bob or remaindered).
