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herts_darlings1
Over 90 days ago
Straight Female, 56
Bisexual Male, 63
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Can I offer a point of view from the male perspective?
The first encounter I had with a lady who "squirted" (not the word I would personally picked) was just over a year ago when we were playing with a lovely couple in a club.
The lady half of the other couple and I were enjoying some prolonged oral sex. suddenly from nowhere as she reached climax (actually just before) I felt a large amount of warm liquid flood over my face. It caught me by surprise but she encouraged me to carry on. It happened several more times and once I got my head round what was happening I found it so erotic.
I thought this was just a myth and a porn stunt! It is not a stunt, it is not pee and for me at least it is incredibly horny!
In a more relaxed moment later on the lady told me it is when she looses herself in what is happening, her mattress has to be replaced every 12 months and they sleep some nights with bin bags under the sheets in an attempt to protect it.
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the problem we have is very few sentences can be a punishment. This has been shown time after time , as when the death penalty is introduced anywhere, the murder rate does not alter.
Fact is no criminal thinks he is going to get caught. Even a child taking a mars bar from a sweet shop, wouldn't do it, if they thought they were going to get caught. What would be the use !!! the real deterrent is a higher conviction rate. If they thought the chances of being caught were higher, then the punishment would then start to become a deterrent.
Forget more prisons and longer sentences, in the end it just costs us the taxpayer more money to run. Spend the money on more police, and better detection techniques. That's the real deterrent. Get the detection rate up to over 75% and you would see crime fall dramatically !!!!

I am not sure it is a case of they don't think they will get caught in a lot of cases. Most crime is petty and if the perpetrate of a petty crime gets caught for the first time they get a slap on the wrist. The more they get caught the larger the slap on the wrist and they know it. So the first arrest equals a police caution. Next it maybe a visit to the magistrates and 20 hours of community service. There is no deterrent at the first point of being caught.
Amazing statistic I heard the other day and didn't believe so I looked it up and found it to be true. THERE ARE MORE MAGISTRATE COURTS IN BRITAIN THAN THERE ARE ACCIDENT AND EMERGENCY HOSPITAL UNITS! I don't know if that is shocking or not, it just seems bizarre to me.
Just my luck! Probably the best round of matches this weekend and I am working sad
I think Wales will beat France, England will beat Ireland And Italy beat Scotland but the thing about this weekends matches is, I don't really know! all 3 could go the other way.
Anybody want to do my weekend shift? Minimum wage less agents fee?
I would pass a law banning me from ever ruling the world, even for one day!I would only go screw it up.
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Who’s to blame ? Everyone and no one would my response.
We think we can tame nature, we can some of the time but every now and then nature throws something at us we can’t handle ie storm after storm since November.
The Somerset levels are reclaimed land, this was originally marsh that we have drained and have been managing ever since. Everyone has been knocking the EA for this failure of the pumping systems to drain water out of the area, no one is looking to congratulate them for all the years where the systems have worked. The systems have been overwhelmed by the sheer amount of rainfall over the last few months. Nature wants its marsh back.
The BBC had an article on the 1928 London floods a few days ago. ( One of the observations that was made in the article was that one of the areas that flooded was previously uninhabited marshland. Historically locals knew that from time to time that the area flooded but over time people forgot . . . . . and then once in a blue moon nature wins.
Dredging rivers. Why do we think that dredging rivers is the answer, this is more of man thinking we can manage nature. Perhaps the rivers are silting up because of the amount of deposits being flushed off the deforested upper sections of the river, changes to the land use elsewhere on the river system. Do we dredge the whole water course or just the areas where we have current flooding, and if we do all we are doing is shifting the problems further downstream.
We straighten rivers, we place obstacles across them (bridges and weirs), we build on flood plains and then complain when things go wrong. There is no way we will ever be able to manage our river systems to contain all the water within the river to discharge.
Dredging the rivers isn’t the answer. A fully considered management plan that considers the river from source to discharge is required. We need forests back on the upper stretches to absorb excess rainfall and to bind the soil to prevent silt being washed down. We need to have areas that are allowed to flood when the rivers can’t cope, it’s what rivers do. We need to stop thinking that we can tame nature 100% of the time and plan for the occasions when it wins.

Apart from the applause bit, think you are about spot on. I was listening to a programme on radio 4 last night comparing the floods in this country this year with that happens in the Netherlands. Far from stopping low lands flood, since 1995 when 10’s of thousands had to be evacuated from their homes due to flooding, they have set up areas along the sides of water courses they call “compromised land” This can be as far away as 100m from the normal course of the water. They have lowered the height of dikes so the water can flow into these areas in times of heavy rainfall. A tree planting programme has been undertaken in the higher areas as the tree roots act as a temporary dam and allow the rivers to fill more slowly. This has meant that large areas of land can no longer be used for farming and people have been moved from their homes, but no mention of dredging.
So the Dutch have realised after 250 years of trying you can’t beat Mother Nature every time.
Am not quite sure what MidsCouple24 have done wrong here!
A question was asked in a forum and MidsCouple24 took the time and trouble to give an honest (if a little blunt)appraisal of the situations as he saw it.
This seems to have been taken by the author of the thread with good grace but the rest of the world wants to get offended on his behalf.
At least Mids offered an opinion, thought that was what forums were for.
Are you one of the water company shareholders taking excessive and unexpectedly high dividends from the water board profits ? is that why you think it is right for the water companies to pay these OTT dividends instead of investing some of the money back into the product we pay them to provide ?
True the Government has only so much money to go round, our money, our taxes, so the government is to blame, to blame for not making the water companies do their job and ensure the work we pay them for is carried out, instead they are now facing a huge bill to the taxpayer to compensate for the problems we are experiencing.
Of course we have to blame somebody, now we have a bill that we shouldn't have had if the Government had done it's job in the first place and made others do their job.
Fact, the water companies are declaring massive profits, shareholder dividends are way higher than promised and expected, investment into the business is by their own admission not enough, out of date sewers are failing, no new sewers are being built, no new resevoirs are being built and so on.
Dredging rivers would have been good for the environment and wildlife, dredging rivers would have prevented much of the problems in some areas, dredging rivers would have created jobs for the economy, dredging rivers would have cost very little compared to the cost the government is now facing in sorting the problem and then they will still be asked afterwards to dredge the rivers. The same applies to building flood defences in the most prevalent areas as they did in parts of Worcester.
When there is only so much money to go round it is prudent to spend it wisely, prevention is usually less expensive than the after the event costs with the PM now saying "money is no problem there is all available that is needed"

I do not hold and shares in any water company, think you have to be French to own them!

I am not too good with computers but hope you can read the link which lays down who is responsible for the upkeep of the rivers.
The problem with creating water storage in this country is nobody wants it in there area. I can see the comments now when we are threatened with a hose pipe ban in June but unfortunately we do not have the storage capacity to harvest the vast majority of the rain that has swept Britain this winter. It has been muted that a "national grid" of clean water should be built but for 9 months of the year there is no appetite for it. Red Ken scuppered the idea of a de-salivation plant at the mouth of the Thames.
But back to the floods, I do not believe what the sensational news reports are telling me about this being the worst ever winter for 200 years.
I appreciate that modern communication has saved lives this winter but in 1947/48 we had blizzards that affected large parts of the country. In 1953 we had storms that killed hundreds of people directly. 1962/63 snow, frost and ice from November to March and every year hundred of people die each year from cold and living in properties not fit for habitation!
A lot of flooding at the moment is not from rivers bursting there banks but from rising ground water. It does not look dramatic so they don't report it.
The sea levels have been effected by the strong winds so when we get very high tides they flood coastal areas. They also run into estuaries and up river mouths, this stops rivers flowing into the estuaries, the rivers back up and burst there banks.
I ask the same question, why does it have to be anybodies fault?
Does it have to be anybody’s fault? Could it just be that we are impudent in the face of Mother Nature? Rivers are naturally un-dredged, it is us who have dredged them, if we have artificially increased the carrying capacity of water courses to stop them flooding as often does not mean we haven’t stopped them flooding ever.
We are having a prolonged period of heavy rain, this has been compounded with very strong winds, that does not mean we are going to get these conditions on a regular basis. Next winter we may have a very cold period of weather, what are we going to say when the powers that be say we haven’t any grit because we spent all our money on dredging rivers!
There is only so much money out there and there are only so many things you can prepare for, if you don’t agree with that next time you vote (if you can be bothered to vote) don’t vote for a party that is going to control spending which I am afraid limits you to the Socialist Workers Party and then watch all the money leave the country flooded rivers or not.
It’s no wonder the Aussies call us whingeing poms! It was not any government that dredged the rivers in the first place, it was the people who wanted to settle there and for centuries it was the people who worked on this land that managed it. Why has that changed? Why does it have to be anybody’s fault?
If we want to blame anybody, as a nation why don’t we collectively look in the mirror? And instead of trying to find someone to blame just perhaps realise that if we want our home grown organic meat and veg, if we want our lovely homes close to the river with views over the valley, if we want to up root trees that via their roots, aerate the ground and attract scores of other species that make up nature, that deflect the winds and replace them with bricks and mortar that are not noted for their absorbent qualities then when we get the largest rain fall for god knows how many years realise it is us who have f*cked it up! Mother Nature is going to win, every time!
What we have done and where we have done it is done! Do you think in the future we may learn a lesson and adapt our expansion? Ye and pigs might fly!
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No no no. You need to go to this link:

Put in your birthday, and it tells you what your parents were grooving down to when you were conceived. Then you can post the answer here to give us all a good laugh! ;)

sorry, did get it a bit wrong but to be fair the answer's I got from the link were crap so I will continue to pretend I don't know what you mean!
Male half of the combos here so if I got the thread wrong, don’t be surprised.
Best film/music = Either Gorky Park with all the Tchaikovsky stuff going on at the ice rink. By the way don’t read the book and then see the film, the book is so boring! Or Midnight Cowboy with the great theme by john Barry and the fantastic song “Every bodies talking at me” by Neilson.
Best song, modern song would be Vincent by Don Mclean, of all time Jupiter by Holst.
Best film, The apartment with Jack Lemmon and Shirley MacLaine. The rom-com all others should be judged by or anything by Hitchcock.
That would be us then! ;)
Yes dress to impress has its place but nothing better than been in your birthday suit.
Socials are very good to meet and chat, you can get a feel for the pit falls then as well . but as above, take your time and make sure you are both comfortable with it.
Chat rooms can be good and fun once you get to know people.
I don't know what it is about the six nations but it has to be my favourite sporting event. Yes I love the Ashes and the Olympics but when the finest muscle and brawn the rugby playing northern hemisphere has to offer put there shirts on and kick ten bells out of each other you can't get me away from the telly.
So with a sporting good luck said to the other 5 nations I will be routing for the boys in white.
Seriously, does it have to be banned? If parents think so little of there offspring that they would smoke in a car with them as a passenger or in any close proximity then the poor little mites can't be the apple of there eyes. Parents that are that selfish are not going to improve there overall parenting skills just because they have to stop smoking in a car.
Not sure how it would be enforced either, the ban on smoking in the work place extends to company vehicles but it does not seem to stop a lot of van drivers. They would probably just tell the poor little sods to "lie down in back sweet'art so mummy and daddy can 'av a ciggy"
Not sure people who drive and smoke are worse than those on mobile phone either! as bad maybe but worse? Is someone who murders with a gun worse than one who murders with a knife?
Seems to me the best way to make doing anything in a car safe is to allow everything except driving the damn things.
Think the OP was talking more about the super strength beers and the likes as opposed to drinking in general.
I am not aware that pubs and clubs actually sell super strength beers. It seems to be the preserve of the off license and supermarkets. I will declare here I am not a drinker, I do not object to drinking alcohol, I just don’t enjoy it. I was once asked to try a sip of the super strength stuff and to be quite honest it was vile. It was sweet with an overpowering odour that I can’t liken to anything else. I asked the person who offered me it why he enjoyed it, he said he didn’t enjoy the taste but enjoyed the effect it had on him. I concluded that the only reason he was drinking it was to get in a state of inebriation as quickly as possible. (a drink problem)
I do see some sense in banning super strength beers but am not sure if this is the choice drink of stay at home alcoholics or whether the drinkers of super strength beers are more likely to develop dependency! I am not sure of the cost difference between super strength beers and the equivalent volume of cheap wine but wouldn’t an alcoholic just switch from one to another if it were banned?
As for paying for anti social behaviour, you already are in your tax! It seems that a responsible licensee suffers for ensuring that his clients are not worse for wear by not selling them alcohol. If he thinks they are drunk but the off licenses and supermarkets only have to ensure people are over a certain age to sell them as much as they can afford not knowing if the purchase is going to be drunk responsibly or even given to minors!
Is it time for a higher rate of duty to be paid for alcohol drunk off licensed premises and a lower one for pubs and clubs? At least that way people cannot get “tanked up at home for a tenner” and may reduce the issues around domestic abuse and the likes.
Super strength beers were removed from all shops in an area of I think it was Ipswich a couple of years ago, domestic violence reduced by half as did admittance to A&E during the hours of on a Friday evening till on a Saturday morning, so maybe worth a national trial!
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Nationalised industries that never turned a profit, what like British Airways, British Gas, British Telecom, the electricity companies, the water companies never did! Oop's my mistake, suddenly remembered they did, loads and loads of profit. As did the tote and Stenna Sealink and Gleneagles Hotel.

Sarcasm does nothing for debate, were the tote, stenna Sealink and the Gleneagles Hotel Nationalised Industries, did they make vast profits or are you being sarcastic ? I honestly don't know what your saying here, it is unclear if your stating facts or being cynical ? not everyone in this debate knows all the details please enlighten us.
Point I was making Jed is that Nationalisation/private enterprise is not black and white. I personally am not a great lover of Nationalised businesses, necessary breeds invention and sales breed improvement needed to beat your competitors which in turn leads to profit that encourages investors and investment allows product improvement, the capitalist dream!
Sealink and The Gleneagles hotel were part of British Rail and therefore Nationalised businesses but were profitable. You could also throw Jaguar and Land Rover into that as well as they were profitable parts of British Leyland. The government of the time wanting to slim down state owned business split these from the non profit making parent companies and flogged them off. The government said “what do we know about running a hotel?” fair point but surely that’s not the point. Like any business you appoint people with experience to run companies for you. If you use the what do we know about running certain businesses, you could also say “what do government know about running hospitals and the like?” obviously nothing, so why not agree a budget and leave it to experienced professionals and just butt out?
So you take the profit making elements out of the business, it then makes it easier to either run down and close or give away what’s left. The voter is not going to care too much if a business that costs fortunes to run and is never going to break into the black anywhere ever is not going to be funded from the tax take.
So if you worked for The Gleneagles hotel or any other of the former rail company hotels, you were actually working for British Rail. As for sarcasm and being cynical, well I don’t drink and I don’t smoke. I try to eat healthy and exercise. Sarcasm and being cynical are about the only pleasures I have left. I take your point though and will attempt to do neither in a public place. Obviously smirking in bed can be quite dangerous too. I am not clever enough for satire and looked on sarcasm and cynicism as a perfectly reasonable substitute but realise it is the Austin Allegro of wit and not the Range Rover of comedy I had hoped.
Nationalised industries that never turned a profit, what like British Airways, British Gas, British Telecom, the electricity companies, the water companies never did! Oop's my mistake, suddenly remembered they did, loads and loads of profit. As did the tote and Stenna Sealink and Gleneagles Hotel.
How much would coal extraction cost today in manpower terms and the ocean of regulation to keep workers safe?
I don't know, ask the Germans that mine it and subsidise it and EDF who transport it the British power stations!
The general comment was why Tories lie! Think you will find most people who have power or covert power lie and that it is not just the preserve of one political party.
Liberal democrats = No tuition fees and no increase in the rate of VAT! They get there grubby nicotine stained fingers on power and we get an increase in tuition fees and the rate of VAT.
Labour = the end of boom and bust, British jobs for British workers and weapons of mass disruption. What did we get? Huge bust, no control on whether it is British or EU citizens who get jobs in this country and no weapons of mass disruption.
George Bush Senior “Watch my lips, no new taxes!” 12 months before introducing new taxes.
And my own personal favourite which has still to reach it’s inevitable conclusion, “No 3rd runway at Heathrow!”
More specifically the comments on the miners’ strike. What released papers can’t tell you is that in the climate of the time there were 2 ideological forces in play. These had been rumbling since the end of the second world war and hit head on in the miners’ strike. I too grew up in a town where the pit was biggest employer and is now just a waste land of unemployment and crime.
Blame the government of the time, blame the union leaders of the time BUT DON’T BLAME THE MINERS’ OF THE TIME! They were just pawns in the idealistic war. All they wanted to do was work but since in the 1980’s some miners’ who broke the nation strike in the 1930’s were still shunned and the fact that if you didn't join the picket line, you didn't get paid, is it any wonder that they didn't disobey the union. Add to that the fact there was never a union ballet as to whether or not to go on strike, then how can you blame these men who ended up digging out railway embankments for discarded coal just to provide heat for their families? Don’t you really think they would have preferred to be at work?
The Government at the time was bent on breaking the strangle hold unions had over British industry. The steel works were first but then a lumbering giant in the shape of the NUM appeared on the horizon, they were not going to back down. They stock piled enough coal to last 2 years and told the NUM to do their worst. Heartless and cynical as it maybe and the collateral damage was not just the miners’ but whole communities.
We now have a perverse situation where French power companies import huge amounts of subsidised German coal (poor quality coal at that) to British power stations that were built on top of vast coal fields that had enough coal to last for 250 years!
THAT'S NOT THE MINERS’ FAULT!
A minor point but the British electorate did not get a say in a referendum into joining the then Common Market, it was the policy of the Heath government.
We did however have a referendum as to whether we stayed in or not some years later.
The biggest opponents to us joining the common market were the French! They thought we would always look West for our allies and would not fall in line with the then European dream of a cross boarder trading system.
Please carry on, I am enjoying this thread immensely!
We were quite innocently driving around Milton Keynes on Sunday (not an area we are too familiar with) and it struck us how many little and secluded car parks there where! This got us thinking.
Are any,many,few or none used for dogging? If anybody would like to mail us privately with the answer and potential car parks and there location we would be very grateful.
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Hi,
We are going to Kestrels on Monday 30th for a good pre New Year chill! Is anybody else planning on going? we would particularly like to here from couples and genuinely bi guys.
Hopefully be there from late morning till early evening.
J&V
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It is indeed a theory discussed in nerd circles all the time, most go with the theory that the large asteroids which are reduced in size by the heat they go through entering our atmosphere hit the earth all the time, that the ice and water content of these asteroids is the first thing to go during that journey, we have nothing to say that in the past one of those larger asteroids didn't bring something with it which now exists on earth and is accepted as a standard earth item, in fact don't the big bang theorists believe that we and everything on the planet started off this way.
ok so Comet Ison won't pass close to earth and there are no reports that a huge asteroid is going to hit us anytime soon.
But I have a theory, I know that the earth is being orbitted by loads of space junk, the orbits of which deteriorate and they crash to earth now and again, most of the content burns up in our atmosphere, but some gets through.
My theory involves the stuff we dump in space returning to earth, for years now astronaughts have been dumping dump in space whenever they need to go. What if it all joins together like the bits did that started the universe and the planets, what if earth gets hit by a huge turdoid ?
Worse what if aliens attempt to visit us and crash into a giant turd on their way, would they see this as an act of war and destroy the earth ?

Big question must be, if the super turd did survive re-entry, where would you want it to land?
An area where there is no living creature is the obvious and correct answer but considering it will still be fresh and smelly there must be someone or area you want to see hit by an extra terrestrial arseteroid?
Personally, Boxing day, Melbourne as the Australian team take the field.
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I consider "swinging" to be recreational sex with a non regular partner, and between two, or more, people who (and this is important) have considered and are intent upon participating in same as a purely recreational pursuit.
So meeting someone in a bar then finding yourself in bed with them at the end of the night doesn't mean you were swinging. Might just mean you were easy :cool:.

Agreed because recreational sex between less than two people is called something else entirely! lol
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An average return flight from London to Brazil is around £10,000 return (business class) according to a quick check I just did.
Add to that the hotel bills and other expenses each individual will incur during what we hope is going to be a long competition for England, then there are the internal flights when in Brazil as some of the Stadiums are over 200 miles apart.
Yes the players could probably afford it, how would you feel though if you were asked to represent your Country in a sport, please go and do your best for us, it will cost you about 50 grand but hey you can afford that.
What about the other staff, the coach, the kit manager, the security staff, the physio and a whole host of others who will accompany the team, can they afford upto 50 grand ?
I would not like to see the RAF bear the cost, they have enough to spend money on in order to keep RAF and military personnel safe by having the best equipment they can afford.
The Government paid, what was it £15 billion to host the Olympics ?
I don't know a lot about who pays what when it comes to international sports, who paid for the recent Rugby and Cricket tours ?
I thought a the FA would foot the whole bill and recover the money and more from the licensing and sales of England World Cup memorabilia, a marketing opportunity worth millions.

Cricket and Rugby tours are funded by the national body. The difference is that with both Cricket and Rugby, international matches are what bring the money in. This feeds the national sides and is also fed into the club system for continues development.
Football however is controlled by several groups in this country, not one of them has the balls to stand up to the clubs. The half dozen or so lumbering giants that control the game. These clubs are by and large owned by foreign investors, managed by foreign managers with mainly foreign players so why do they give a toss about the English national side? The supporters love them and pay hard earned cash to watch and idolise them. So forgive me for thinking it is just a football problem.
A girl from a local school to where I used to live was picked to represent her nation in the junior world championships in swimming a few years back. We raised the money to send her to represent her country, the whole community with jumble sales, sponsored events and the like. I am not suggesting the England football team go sit in a bath of cold baked beans to fund there passage to Brazil but would say yes! we do expect people who represent there country to pay.
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Well said Herts :thumbup:
I particularly like the idea of using Ryanair. They operate 737's mainly and would run out of fuel well before reaching Brazil. I hope the English players can all swim....

I hope they can't