A date has been declared for the inaogu.... inuageral.... first meeting of the Norwich SH Book Club - see Let's Meet Up.
As tends to happen there are a few more guys than girls coming so if there are any more ladies out there happy to meet for a drink and chat but definitely NO naughty behaviour please PM me.
Jezzay
You know, there's a happy and a sad aspect to all this. It is wonderful that we are now able to recognise and enjoy this experience. But I feel sad when I think of all the women who have been, and still are, terrified of what they think is bladder incontinence. Afraid to 'let go' in case they alienate their partner because the 'establishment' has told them they are peeing.
Oh how I wish the Swinging Heaven message could be broadcast far and wide.
Jezzay.
Wooh - great response so far.
As to what book - I thought we should each bring a book which says a little about ourselves. For instance Mal69 (were he from Norwich) would bring "The Dangerous Gentleman", Fabio G. would bring "Black Beauty". (Did you like that one, Sean?)
I am concerned about the gender ratio. It would be a bit daft - though great for me! - if there were a dozen gentlemen book-clutchers and only me. So can I ask all interested to PM me with their gender alignment of choice. I'm not planning to exclude people but I just wouldn't go ahead if it was going to be predominantly male.
Poohbear - PM me with best evenings for you.
Jezzay.
There have been quite a few posts from people bemoaning the lack of action in Norwich. Attempts to set up 'mini-munches' have come to nothing and the 'Norfolk Spontaneous Sex Team' has dropped way down the lists. I think one of the reasons is the size of the place - if you live and/or work here you can seldom go out without seeing someone you know. If, like me, you need to keep your SH activities private this makes things difficult.
There is a group which meets regularly in Norwich (recently mistaken by a SH member as a SH munch) but they are not discrete. They will move from pub to pub in full fetish/Ann Summers gear. I'm not saying they shouldn't - just that many of us can't risk exposure that way.
So I got to thinking - if I was seen out with a group of strangers what would I say? And I thought "Book Club". So what if we arranged a pub and a night to meet but it ISN'T a Munch. We dress in a way that doesn't give us away. We bring a book! We meet - we chat - and obviously if connections are made we take it from there. It wouldn't be a private booking (no pun intended) - just a drink in a pub. I would be the co-ordinator.
Waddaya think?
Mods : I know this belongs in Let's Meet Up but posts disappear very quickly there. Us Naarfolk types are a bit slow - all those tractors we have to wait behind on the way home - so if it could stay here for a while I'd be grateful.
Jezzay.
Spooky post for me. I'm seeing changes in the behaviour of my best mate at the moment. Not exactly what you describe but there are resonances. And I've been thinking a lot about it. Sometimes I wanted to walk away. But I think her behaviour to me is as a result of other huge changes that are going on in her life. I think she's taking her anger out on me but at the same time wants me to stay. (She'll yell at me and then touch me.)
I'm going to hang on in for a bit - ride the storm.
But if a friendship has changed or died then I think it's OK to walk away. There will be others.
Jezzay.
Only two glasses of wine and I'm telling you this! I am not a tidy person and have a habit of climbing out of my jeans and knickers in one go, leaving the knickers somewhere in the jeans. (Hah - some of you are ahead of me.)
So there I was with a new boyfriend and his best mate on a bus going to a folk club. As we sat down the mate said 'Look - a pair of knickers.' They were on the floor 3 yards away. (See footnote.)
So did I think quickly and say : 'Oh my goodness who would do that!'? No chance! I said : 'Oh - they're mine!' New boyfriend and mate were still cracking up two hours later.
Footnote :
For those who have never abandoned their knickers in their jeans the risk is that you put the jeans on next time not realising a pair of knickers is already occupying space down the leg somewhere.
Jezzay.
Haven't worked out out yet whether or not this was a compliment but a colleague I just happened to end up in bed with once said : "You're one of those unusual women who look loads better with their clothes off."
Jezzay.
Sort of Speed-mating then?
Mmmnnnn.......
Jezzay
Oh I may not be that far from you geographically but I'm a long long way away in age. Thank you anyway for the thought. Great body.
I'm afraid it is a bit quiet round here. It may be the 'villagy-ness' of the place - people worried about being spotted and exposed. I have travelled away for my partying. But there are lots of couples around. You'll do OK. As long as you turn up when you have agreed to meet them.
Jezzay.
How did "22,833 deaths arising from: traffic accidents" turn into how safely we cross the road?!!!
It's to do with you having no chance when some mad speed freak is hurtling down a motorway in a powerful car and answering his mobile at the same time. As a nation we have quietly accepted this huge level of slaughter as acceptable so that we can get to A from B at our own convenience. Unprotected driving - far more dangerous than a blow-job in a club.
Jezzay.
I saw a very moving documentary some years ago about a guy with similar issues to you. After much debate wih his friends and within himself he decided to go to the Netherlands. Not only did this get him around the seedy/sordid side of prostitution in this country (because of our blinkered attitudes and legal restrictions) but his researches had located a agency which specialised in disabilities. And of course there isn't a health risk because of their institutionalised checks.
Clearly the cameras were excluded from the room but afterwards he seemed to be a very happy bunny indeed!!!
Jezzay.
Never had kids but when the neighbours' kids were all young they would often come with me when I took my dog for a walk. I slowly sussed that this was jumped on (pardon the pun) by the parents as a golden opportunity.
Which made me realise there is a niche for the baby-taker-outerer. You don't want to go out to a candle-lit dinner/movie/Status Quo tribute band. You want to stay in and get bathed and dressed up and play like what we singles do!!
So any entrepreneurial hard-up baby-sitters out there - pay heed.
Jezzay.
If he's for real I'm never moving house!
Jezzay
It's very VERY important to me that I'm not recognised. This is an easily accessible site. I found it when I first did a Google on 'Dogging' because I didn't know what it was. I work in IT with a lot of very internet-wise people. I'm - to them - a solid, reliable, professional, mature spinster-type and they need to know nothing about my real/private life.
I also engage in the community on a volunteer basis and it is even more vitalt there that this side of me is secret.
It matters so much to me that at the last party I went to at a club, when I was photographed I immediately stopped what I was doing (to the disappointment of a few gentlemen I might add) and stormed out in tears. I had to be shown the photographs being deleted before I relaxed again. And I will never go back there.
So please don't accuse me of drawing unwanted attention to myself.
Jezzay.
Thing is.. regardless of the widely-held view on SH that unprotected sex between strangers is a no-no, it is going on. We all know this. Many of us have started out with good intentions and then thought - 'Well, hey, he/she seems OK. I'm sure they can't be HIV positive. And really, this condom business is seriously getting in the way.' And we also know that even if penetrative sex is being protected there are many, many instances of unprotected oral sex which also carries risk. I have only been to three clubs and not many more parties (so invite me!!!) but have NEVER seen a condom used for oral sex.
But as the original post shows AIDS is not rampaging. So does this mean the risk is being exaggerated for some reason?
Jezzay.
Andy,
I'm too far away to be a candidate. Just wanted to say your post is nice. Very cool. Others can learn from this. Hope you've had some PMs.
Jezzay.