We are looking for a long term relationship with friendship just as important as the sex.

We enjoy sexy wining and dining, sexy outfits, photos, videos (making and watching), toys, oral, games, some role play, watching and being watched, threesomes, foursomes, nudist beaches etc.

She is very bi with the right lady in the right circumstances, he's orally bi. We are very clean and discrete and you must be too and non smokers.

Initially we would keep the ultimate for ourselves but everything is possible if we can find the right couple and the friendship develops.