Boy, I'm having a really hard time making up my mind.
If any of the contestants would care to try to persuade me into her camp I'd be more than happy to listen. I should point out that I agree completely with Oscar Wilde:
I can resist anything except temptation.
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Using a dildo is penetrative sex, Les. If you take one out of one orifice and put it in another either unsheathed or without changing the condom you risk cross-infection should one of the participants be carrying an infection.
Ergo, not much more safe than using a condom for any penis involved but not for any toys. Or fingers for than matter.
To dismiss the possibility of such cross-infection, as most people seem to do, is realy the part of the debate I'm trying to engage in. Not statistical ratios of which is most likely, but the fact that all carry a chance, most ignore those possibilities and endanger others whilst doing so feeling safe. That some seem to do so (and I'm not referring to anyone when I say this) whilst sporting a superior attitude to others' risk assessment actually adds to the danger. Why? Because it blinds them to other possibilities. Your last post pointed out a new one to me - via the eye. How many would never dream of letting a new playmate cum inside them, but would allow them to cum on their face? Ever wondered about what might happen if your back, for example, got scratched during sex then one of the participants came over it?
All I'm saying is we need to be aware of all the risks and to not blind ourselves along the lines that only the penis spreads disease. It is statistically significantly more likely that a child-abuser will be male, but it doesn't mean that the possibility of a female abuser should be ignored because of it. Back when I worked in child care I attended a course about spotting the signs of abuse. The facilitator constantly referred to abusers as male. The father, he, him and so on. Whne I complained about this the statistics were quoted at me and I was told to shut up by the others in our staff. Even after I pointed out that the only two cases of abuse, one physical & one sexual, we'd had to deal with were perpetrated by women. Nothing I said could persuade either the facilitator or the others on the course to stop thinking of abusers as solely being male. I feel much the same in this debate.
In case anyone was wondering, and since none have answered, no, I can't say yes to my question. Here's another question. Ladies, how would you feel if a playmate pulled out a pair of surgical gloves and refused to touch any wet surface of your body without wearing them in the name of safe sex? I bet you'd be offended. Now ask why.
I ran a post about the effectiveness of condoms within a group sex scenario a while back and am glad to see that this one has not been hijacked by the 'aids is going to kill you if you ever have sex without a rubber' brigade.
Whilst I prefer to use a prophylactic outside my LTR I am not convinced that there is a point to it, especially when there is more than one female involved, as has already been mentioned here. We don't use dental dams, latex gloves, put condoms on dildos or switch protection between partners, usually. I know of some who do the latter, but it's not that common. As soon as you do that then making the guy wear one is pointless. The same is true of the moment an unsheathed dildo is shared between women.
It is not uncommon for women to want bareback, either and I could - if I weren't a gentleman - name a lady who has been VERY vehement in some of these discussions regarding using condoms but was very stroppy when I wanted to use one with her.
It's not really very helpful to make wild threats about guys balls if they so much as suggest wanting to do so, either. No matter what the manufacturers say it doesn't feel the same for us when wearing one, just the same as there are women who don't like the feel of a latex dildo, so it will always be a desirable option to go bareback. Treating someone who wants to with contempt is showing a lack of understanding of others' desires that I find strange on a site dedicated to diversity of sexual practice. (Someone who insists in the face of objections is a different matter.) Again, as mentioned, there are also problems with allergies and getting hold of condoms that are totally hypo-allergenic if required is not always easy.
I guess I'm really saying that there are grey areas - especially in the kind of scenarios in which we find ourselves and we must consider the full implications of STDs and their transmissibility. The penis is not, despite what some would seem to believe, the only carrier of infection. Your fingers, your mouth and your toys are all as likely and unless you're protecting them all and changing the protection between every participant then you're just throwing stones inside the greenhouse when you're contemptuous of someone who wants to go bareback.
When I first started coming here it was all in the forum. Lately, though, I've been spending more time in the chatrooms.
There certainly are a lot of cliquey people there and it can be hard to get into them, but I've had more good chats and made more meets that I ever did either in the forums or even by replying to ads. Being able to directly chat with people makes it a lot easier, especially than replying to ads most of which just ignore you.
Obviously, being a single male I don't get a huge number of whispers, so I probably don't understand how bad it can be but if you want to avoid it just look for a room that says 'no whispering'. The downside is that some of the room ops can be a little heavy-handed with the kick button. Especially where directing is concerned. Most of them seem to confuse the term 'direction' with polite requests (and before anyone asks, I've never been booted from a room for doing it). Just tonight I saw a guy get booted for asking a girl "Can we see some more, please?. By the time she'd said "If you're nice" he'd been booted for directing. No warning, no complaint from the girl just :kick:. I imagine that could put noobs off very easily.
There are a lot of advantages to the forums, tho'. Not least that you don't 'miss' what your friends say and it's easy to follow one thread at a time. I've gone positively schizo trying to keep up some nights, but I can be like that using a chat client with one person who can type faster than I can :silly:
I once ran a poll in the forums asking how many people in the forums also used the chat rooms. Never even got looked at. It's nice to see that the barriers are coming down.
Oh! I can usually be found in the Scottish rooms if anyone wants to gab.
If you're using the Google toolbar make sure it allows popups on the site, too. I've found that can cause trouble here especially with chat.
Nope, you're an optical illusion...
Here goes:
The London Underground in Rush hour
The top of the Blackpool Tower
In the audience during the Rocky Horror Show in several venues around the UK. (once standing beside her boyfriend & he didn't know. :twisted: )
Many of the Castles around Scotland, preferably above the main gate.
In casualty.
On stage in Panto with the back end of the cow.
In the back of a hearse going down the M8.
In a pulpit.
They're probably the most unusual ones for me.
So did the 3rd/4th thing go ahead, then?
I came back here from teh other place too late to make it, but I'd love to hear if it happened & if there're any plans for a repeat?
We had a few;
She came down the aisle to music from Edward Scissorhands,
Then we had My Love Is Like a Red, Red Rose by Eddi Reader and we went out to the Throne room Music from Star Wars.
Mixed bunch or what?
Can you imagine the UK courts making this descision?
I'm shivering with antici...
I'm thrilled for you both and would love to come along, work permitting.
Probably going to be the best thing either of you have ever done if my own experience is anything to go by!
Dead Ringer for Muff
Muff for Sale
Will You Still Muff Me Tomorrow?
Is This Muff?#Muff Hurts (Only if you're doing it wrongly)
Movies are fun, too:
Muff, Actually
Muff is a Four-Letter Word
In the Name of Muff
When you go down the road of hymns and other religious quotes it gets really sick:
Jesus Muffs Me (this I know)
God is Muff
Muff thy Neighbour
Jesus Muffs the Little Children
For God so Muffed the world that he gave his only begotten son.
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I thought of this one: Crazy Little Thing Called Muff.
Then thought about the lyrics:
This thing called muff I just can't handle it
This thing called muff I must get round to it
I ain't ready
Crazy little thing called muff
This thing (this thing) called muff (called muff)
It cries (like a baby)
In a cradle all night
It swings (woo woo)
It jives (woo woo)
It shakes all over like a jelly fish
I kinda like it
Crazy little thing called muff
There goes my baby
She knows how to Rock'n'Roll
She drives me crazy
She gives me hot and cold fever
Then she leaves me in a cool cool sweat
I gotta be cool relax get hip!
Get on my tracks
Take a back seat
Hitch hike
And take a long ride on my motor bike
Until I'm ready
Crazy little thing called muff
I gotta be cool relax get hip!
Get on my track's
Take a back seat
Hitch hike
And take a long ride on my motor bike
Until I'm ready (ready Freddie)
Crazy little thing called muff
This thing called muff I just can't handle it
This thing called muff I must get round to it
I ain't ready
Crazy little thing called muff...
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Not my story-thank god- but a mate once woke to the wonderful sensation of a tongue going at it like the clappers on his bell-end. He enjoyed it for as long as he could, but having beenon the elctric soup the night before and having avery full bladder he couldn't take any more. So he said "Not now, LIsa." and reached down to push his girlfriend's head away. Only to grab a hold of their kitten.
Thanks to Lucy & Ken for a really fun night.
Those of you who didn't make it along, you missed a great one. Especially the bemused and, on occasion, slightly worried looks of the bar staff as they figured out that there wasn't really a birthday party happening.
So many kilts on so few Scots is a rare sight indeed. As I pointed out on the night; Scots today usually only wear the kilt to weddings and sporting events and I reckon a munch has to count as some kind if combination of the two!
When's the next one?
Silly boys. Don't you know that the kilt was invented and worn by Highlanders? A mountain-dwelling people. It's warmer under there than it is in trousers.
I still won't be wearing mine, but I explained why elsewhere...
Good for you.
Hope the best of your past is the worst of your future together.
Got a few things on that afternoon, but I'll do me damnedest to find to me to drop by & say 'Hello'. :cheers:
