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Just wanted to mention that I was glad that my post made some sense, it was late and the thought process was a little fuzzy :lol: !!
this may be me being a little bit insensitive, but i dont mean to be. but feel free to not ansew if you dont want to.
with the "stone" femme and butch thing, does the butch get any PHYSICAL pleasure? i know that obviously you get the emotional pleasure and the close feeling, but if the femme does not touch you in a sexual way, how do you get sexual satisfaction? i really am interested in this, i have been googling and everything.
from what i have read now ( but i may be not understanding i guess) the stone fem is going to be getting sexual pleasure and seems to be getting a whale of a time lol.
is it because the emotional feeling of giving is more important than the sexual satisfaction for a stone butch? and for the stone fem, is it a feeling that they are atracted to the person, but are not atracted to females? if that makes sense!
i know what i am trying to ask, but it is not coming across well in words.

It's a difficult thing to explain WBB, and to be honest unless you look at American sites you are not likely to find a lot of info about stone behaviour as its not really discussed on UK boards and the communities are not as prominent here.
The way I see it is that stone behaviour is powered by psychological feeling. It can be women who have issues with their image, their sexuality, their gender assignment or its just what does it for them - i.e. who they are. The way I then see it is that as it exists as a state of mind then the body doesn't need the sexual gratification it would ordinarily need/seek if someone was in a reciprocal sexual relationship.
The perception I have is that a lot of (stone)butch/(stone)femme relationships do mimic traditional gender roles, an ex of mine (a high femme) got involved with a butch as close to the dictionary definition of stone as I've ever met. As my ex had been in a lot of nasty relationships she basically wanted someone to protect her (and was quite open about it after a few weeks of us being together)- I wanted an equal and she wanted to be looked after in a way that I couldn't deal with - I didn't want the 'little lady at home with the tea ready' thing, but as far as I know she's still happy with the other woman now.
Its a bizarre thing really, and I'm well aware that it would come across that the stonefemme really wants to be living with a man even though that isn't the case. The gender of their partner is still important.
I suppose its the bit of a lot of lesbian relationships that is 'missing' if you like. Lesbians in my experience tend to have interdependent relationships - i.e. we both go downstairs if we think there's a burglar :wink: whereas the butch (stone or otherwise) generally perceives theselves as the protector of the femme.
I am going to stop now as I don't know if this is still on track or if I'm rambling!!!
not rambling at all, between your point of view and kiss.s explanations, i feel like i am understanding now.
my thoughts are that it seems to be about people getting what THEY want out of a relationship/sexual encounter, rather than what society expects them to get.
cant be anything wrong in that!
thanks for taking the time to explain.
WBB ( who must be a femme - cos she would NEVER go downstairs to catch the burglar! :lol: )
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