Late Night Friday/Early Morning Saturday

7 Aug 2009

This seems to be the worse time for drunken single blokes to come into the chat rooms (particularly the BBW room on server 1) and cause havoc by whispering without asking and then getting insulting when the females tell them they're not interested. It happens nearly every single week. Yet, there are never any ops around to sort them out. I looked on all 3 servers but couldn't find a single op online. They may have been in rooms with over 70 people in watching the fun. If they're about, then surely they should be patrolling all 3 servers and ready to help to sort out the numpties.

8 Aug 2009

have you tried looking in the forums for their purple colour in the list of people in the forum ... a bit faster than trawling through the rooms searching for an op

8 Aug 2009

:thumbup:
Yup, that's where you'll find us if we're available:

And I know it doesn't solve the immediate problem but there are a few other things you can do about it:
Make sure the room is hosted so if necessary they can be kicked for whispering without permission and/or being abusive
Turn whispers off
Submit a support ticket or send a pm to Admin with details of the room name, approx time of the incident and what happened. They'll look into it for you

8 Aug 2009

There's a list of the chat room ops here. It might be worth adding them to your favourites so you can see when they're on line. ;-)

8 Aug 2009

Quote by Cubes
There's a list of the chat room ops here. It might be worth adding them to your favourites so you can see when they're on line. ;-)

I added them all, at , and not one were online, isnt there some sort of rota. rolleyes

8 Aug 2009

The chat ops do the job voluntary without any pay and sometimes with loads of abuse so we now and again have a life too.
Most people on here have my mobile and they text me if there are any problems and if I am near a pc I sign on and deal with their problems right away.
And if there are no ops on line than all you need to do is copy and paste the abuse/problem, with the room name/server and approximate time then send it to either a chat ops or admin and it will get dealt with.

8 Aug 2009

Quote by flower411
Yeah ... but that still doesn`t answer the question about how we know who the room host is and why we`re not allowed to know !!!
It`d be a REALLY useful tool for all :thumbup:

I know, but I was trying to help out the OP. If you want an enhancement then you have the ideal chance to propose it using Admin's recent request for feedback on your homepage.

Swinging Heaven is the number one alternative UK lifestyle site, as such we are constantly looking for ways to make the site better. We would welcome any feedback or feature requests as we are in the process of making substantial improvements to the website, good or bad we want to hear from you.

:thumbup:

8 Aug 2009

Quote by goldsmith
There's a list of the chat room ops here. It might be worth adding them to your favourites so you can see when they're on line. ;-)

I added them all, at , and not one were online, isnt there some sort of rota. rolleyes

Did you actually need an op at or are you just rolling your eyes for fun?! dunno

I was in the pub! :mrgreen: Didn't realise I had to schedule it in with you before I went... I'll be sure to let you know what I'm doing tomorrow! wink

8 Aug 2009

Quote by goldsmith
I added them all, at , and not one were online, isnt there some sort of rota.

We are just members that have buttons that log in and out the same way you do so I'm confused. Why would be need to log in on a rota when you don't need to?
Its not a paid role. Its not like having a job so how can you set talking to mates to a rota dunno

DG, I'll talk to you in 3 weeks then the rota clashes :giggle:

9 Aug 2009

Nice to see the mods have such a professional atitude.
Surely the answer is to have more mods that cover the times when the current ones aren't online. That way, the problem with drunken, abusive single males on a Friday night/Saturday morning wouldn't be a problem.

10 Aug 2009

dave surley an option at this time of night would be to only go in a room that was hosted or to open one yourself and moderate that yourself. but be careful and make sure you know the rules. i have seen so many room hosts just ramdomly boot people with what seam to be no good reason other than they are single males.

10 Aug 2009

Quote by Dave_Desert229
Surely the answer is to have more mods that cover the times when the current ones aren't online.

We all go online when we can, sometimes its at different times every day so how would your suggestion work??

10 Aug 2009

Quote by Dirtygirly
There's a list of the chat room ops here. It might be worth adding them to your favourites so you can see when they're on line. ;-)

I added them all, at , and not one were online, isnt there some sort of rota. rolleyes

Did you actually need an op at or are you just rolling your eyes for fun?! dunno

I was in the pub! :mrgreen: Didn't realise I had to schedule it in with you before I went... I'll be sure to let you know what I'm doing tomorrow! wink

I dont think that remark was necessary at all. All I was saying, is that it was mentioned that we perhaps should save ops profiles in our favourites so we could get hold of someone when needed. And that at the time I did this, there were none online. That's all!
No I didnt need an op at the time, but after I added you all, I checked the list, and noticed none were about. Nothing more than an observation really - and certainly nothing that warrants such a sarcastic response.
I am aware that you all do it voluntarily, and its admirable that you do. Keep up the good work
:wink:

10 Aug 2009

Quote by Dawnie
I added them all, at , and not one were online, isnt there some sort of rota.

We are just members that have buttons that log in and out the same way you do so I'm confused. Why would be need to log in on a rota when you don't need to?
Its not a paid role. Its not like having a job so how can you set talking to mates to a rota dunno

DG, I'll talk to you in 3 weeks then the rota clashes :giggle:
Ahh, thats where I am obviously mistaken, I was under the impression that mods and ops were there, in their given capacity, to make sure the site runs smoothly as well as having their own fun too. This is obviously not the case, again my mistake. wink

10 Aug 2009

Quote by goldsmith
I added them all, at , and not one were online, isnt there some sort of rota.

We are just members that have buttons that log in and out the same way you do so I'm confused. Why would be need to log in on a rota when you don't need to?
Its not a paid role. Its not like having a job so how can you set talking to mates to a rota dunno

DG, I'll talk to you in 3 weeks then the rota clashes :giggle:
Ahh, thats where I am obviously mistaken, I was under the impression that mods and ops were there, in their given capacity, to make sure the site runs smoothly as well as having their own fun too. This is obviously not the case, again my mistake. wink

And many have two or more accounts.. this one for Op'ing, this one for fun...
Seems that a nerve has been touched somewhere

10 Aug 2009

Quote by Dave_Desert229
Surely the answer is to have more mods that cover the times when the current ones aren't online. That way, the problem with drunken, abusive single males on a Friday night/Saturday morning wouldn't be a problem.

Correct! Although strickly speaking the OPs look after the chatroom and the Mods look after the forum. Unless its Sarge and myself that are able to do both confused

If any member wishes to speak with admin and explain why they think they might make a good OP, or Mod, please drop admin a PM or send in a support ticket and have a natter with him :thumbup:

10 Aug 2009

Quote by Dawnie
Surely the answer is to have more mods that cover the times when the current ones aren't online. That way, the problem with drunken, abusive single males on a Friday night/Saturday morning wouldn't be a problem.

Correct! Although strickly speaking the OPs look after the chatroom and the Mods look after the forum. Unless its Sarge and myself that are able to do both confused

If any member wishes to speak with admin and explain why they think they might make a good OP, or Mod, please drop admin a PM or send in a support ticket and have a natter with him :thumbup:
Good idea Dawnie :thumbup:

10 Aug 2009

Quote by goldsmith
There's a list of the chat room ops here. It might be worth adding them to your favourites so you can see when they're on line. ;-)

I added them all, at , and not one were online, isnt there some sort of rota. rolleyes

Did you actually need an op at or are you just rolling your eyes for fun?! dunno

I was in the pub! :mrgreen: Didn't realise I had to schedule it in with you before I went... I'll be sure to let you know what I'm doing tomorrow! wink

I dont think that remark was necessary at all. All I was saying, is that it was mentioned that we perhaps should save ops profiles in our favourites so we could get hold of someone when needed. And that at the time I did this, there were none online. That's all!
No I didnt need an op at the time, but after I added you all, I checked the list, and noticed none were about. Nothing more than an observation really - and certainly nothing that warrants such a sarcastic response.
I am aware that you all do it voluntarily, and its admirable that you do. Keep up the good work
:wink:
And equally I didn't think your :roll: was necessary... quits hey?! :wink:

10 Aug 2009

Quote by Dirtygirly
And equally I didn't think your was necessary... quits hey?!

When I first joined an online forum back in 1992 I was told by the site owner to ignore the emoticon that people put at the end of their text and just read the words.
That makes a re-read of this thread very interesting <no rolling eyes or wink>
I have a job, and I have a family so do occasionally log out of the site. Saying that, if I'm in the country and have t'interweb connection I log in every day.
I do have several accounts. However if I was in a non opping account and somebody asked for help, or I saw something that required action, no matter what I was doing, or who I was talking to, I would log in and do whatever was required.
I totally agree with previous posts that more chatroom ops are required. And when suitable applicants are found the are recruited into the ranks.
Ian

10 Aug 2009

Quote by woohoo

Surely the answer is to have more mods that cover the times when the current ones aren't online.

We all go online when we can, sometimes its at different times every day so how would your suggestion work??
As I said, more ops. If the current ops all log off to go to bed or whatever at midnight, then it needs people who are regularly online til -3 AM. As I said in my original post, the problem seems to start at about midnight when they've been out for a skinful and come home the worse for wear. They know they can get away with it because the ops are unavailable.

10 Aug 2009

Quote by Ian

And equally I didn't think your was necessary... quits hey?!

When I first joined an online forum back in 1992 I was told by the site owner to ignore the emoticon that people put at the end of their text and just read the words.
That makes a re-read of this thread very interesting <no rolling eyes or wink>
I have a job, and I have a family so do occasionally log out of the site. Saying that, if I'm in the country and have t'interweb connection I log in every day.
I do have several accounts. However if I was in a non opping account and somebody asked for help, or I saw something that required action, no matter what I was doing, or who I was talking to, I would log in and do whatever was required.
I totally agree with previous posts that more chatroom ops are required. And when suitable applicants are found the are recruited into the ranks.
Ian
Likewise. For future reference, I'm generally around way more than I should be so if you drop me a PM I get an email notification and if I'm at work or online but not logged in then I'll come in and check my PMs and help out if I can.
Indeed... perhaps I'll take a leaf out of your book and ignore the emotes, as you say, it does totally change the reading of a few posts!
*resists the urge to wink*
:giggle:

10 Aug 2009

Quote by Dave_Desert229

Surely the answer is to have more mods that cover the times when the current ones aren't online.

We all go online when we can, sometimes its at different times every day so how would your suggestion work??
As I said, more ops. If the current ops all log off to go to bed or whatever at midnight, then it needs people who are regularly online til -3 AM. As I said in my original post, the problem seems to start at about midnight when they've been out for a skinful and come home the worse for wear. They know they can get away with it because the ops are unavailable.
Well if there are people who are online till the wee small hours and feel they want to apply then that's exactly what they should do. I have a real job that pays the mortgage and if I stayed up till 3am on a week night I wouldn't be fit for work in the morning. lol

Maybe we should have an informal 'ask the Ops' night in chat and people could ask any questions they had about becoming an Op?

10 Aug 2009

Quote by Dirtygirly

Surely the answer is to have more mods that cover the times when the current ones aren't online.

We all go online when we can, sometimes its at different times every day so how would your suggestion work??
As I said, more ops. If the current ops all log off to go to bed or whatever at midnight, then it needs people who are regularly online til -3 AM. As I said in my original post, the problem seems to start at about midnight when they've been out for a skinful and come home the worse for wear. They know they can get away with it because the ops are unavailable.
Well if there are people who are online till the wee small hours and feel they want to apply then that's exactly what they should do. I have a real job that pays the mortgage and if I stayed up till 3am on a week night I wouldn't be fit for work in the morning. lol

Maybe we should have an informal 'ask the Ops' night in chat and people could ask any questions they had about becoming an Op?
I have a full time job, too. However, I don't have to start til midday at the earliest and I don't finish til most nights. So by the time I get home, have something to eat and relax for a while, I don't feel ready for bed until 3am.

10 Aug 2009

Quote by Dave_Desert229
I have a full time job, too. However, I don't have to start til midday at the earliest and I don't finish til most nights. So by the time I get home, have something to eat and relax for a while, I don't feel ready for bed until 3am.

So is this a roundabout application sort of then? :giggle:

10 Aug 2009

I'm not a Mids room regular! flipa

10 Aug 2009

Quote by flower411
I'm not a Mids room regular!

Kin ell !!! :shock:
The first answer I`ve had to that jibe !!!!
I`ve bin postin it for months now !!! wink

I'd take it as a sure sign that everyone else is ignoring your jibe then (or indeed a Mids room regular)! lol

10 Aug 2009

Quote by Dirtygirly

I have a full time job, too. However, I don't have to start til midday at the earliest and I don't finish til most nights. So by the time I get home, have something to eat and relax for a while, I don't feel ready for bed until 3am.

So is this a roundabout application sort of then? :giggle:
Could be! lol

10 Aug 2009

Quote by flower411
It does seem a bit odd that whenever there is a complaint about not being able to find an op in chat we get fed the same old line about how all the ops and mods are volunteers !!
If one was to question the AUP one would be told how important it all is !!
If it`s SO important ...shouldn`t it be policed all the time ???
I`m genuinely confused ....I`ve seen ops in chat behave as if they were dealing with life and death situations ...but when anybody suggests that there should be ops available at all times it suddenly becomes less urgent :roll:
A bit of consistancy would be nice ....the AUP is either ...
Very important and should be enforced by the ops and mods ...
OR
It`s just some stuff that we`ll enforce when it suits us ...

I agree, you do seem a bit confused. :P :giggle:
Apologies if this is a little out of context, but the thread's moved on while I've spent the last 2 hours "pecking" at the keyboard typing out bleedin' War and Peace. :lol2:
OK the AUP is important as it sets the tone for how people should conduct themselves while using the site.
At the moment we are volunteers and we do the very best we can to ensure that all aspects of the site that we are responsible for run as smoothly as we can possibly make them, but if we were to alter the way that this place is staffed and enforce a rota system to ensure it's 'policed' all the time I'd (personally) have to choose between op-ing here or my current career and I'd guess that almost all the ops/mods would have to make the same choices.
If you're going to ask me to give up my paying job the one that puts a roof over my head and food on the table, or make me stay awake for the nights that I'm rota'd on, then I think it's only fair that I get some form of financial recompense for forcing me to do shift work.
But wait! Where's the money going to come from? It's probably far too much to come from current wage budgets (because I work for a 24-hour service and know how expensive it is to maintain. Far and away the biggest part of the budget is the wages bill.), so we'll have to generate some more money ...... now where's that going to come from? confused

:? :?
Open to suggestions (but I think you'll probably guess who will be asked to foot the bill :small-print: ). ;)
@ Dave_Desert229. If there's not an op around when you need one and someone's causing problems then please send a support ticket/PM to an op stating that room title, server and time and we will check the logs and deal with as appropriate. ALL conversations in chat are logged and we do very often suspend accounts and ban individuals after the event (sometimes several days after the event, but it does happen). If we don't know what was said and where then we can't act on it.
I really am not trying to be condescending or inflammatory here (promise), but there are two sides to every tale and I'm trying to give my opinion and maybe there should be more ops around at night (oh and I was logged into SH all last night while at work and only received 1 request to have a room closed), but it's fair I feel to ask people to make a little effort in support of the site that they pay good money for. I'm not saying "You have a go if you think you can do better." ('cos someone's bound to do better than me and leave me looking like an arse redface

), but that if you see something happening take 2 mins out to report it and do your bit for site social responsibility, that's part of the reason why I became an op (the other was the uniform :rascal: ).
It's not too much to ask to log the room details (we don't even need any copies of room text) and drop it to admin or an op and maybe if we work together we can start to get these Friday night/Saturday morning drunken idiots banned permanently. :thumbup:

10 Aug 2009

And there is the sensible voice who said all the things that you need to know. :thumbup:
worship

:worship: :worship:
And on that note... I'm going to bed! wave

10 Aug 2009

Quote by Dirtygirly
And there is the sensible voice who said all the things that you need to know. :thumbup:
:worship: :worship:
And on that note... I'm going to bed!

So am I ..... and no nicking the bloody duvet tonight DG. mad

Night all :wave: