I agree Kent, food farming, the way we do it at the moment uses more energy than we actually get from the food. (I aint spending my life searching Journals-find your own references). I recall we crossed the more in than out threshold in the seventies.
Bit of a worry innit. Good jobs these boffins spend time thinking rather than hugging trees.
just call me a cynic.
this is what Darling Said.
"In order to help the car industry and retail trade, I can announce that a scrappage scheme will be implemented next month.
It will provide motorists with a £2,000 discount on new vehicles bought when they trade in cars over ten years old.
It will be a time-limited scheme until March 2010. "
this is what Darling meant.
the government will provide £1000, the motor industry will provide the other £1000, some help eh . and i wonder if the cost of a new car will rise to cover it. so you effectively only get £1000 off
You are a cynic Jaq but my oh my somebody has a delightful bum.
Firstly, just because something (cows) does as much damage as something else (cars) doesnt mean nothing should be done about it.
Second - does anyone know if this pay back thingy work when buying a new bike as well?
We really like the idea of getting £2000 off a new car!!!!
Thats only as we've been saving hard to buy one for cash next year!!!
What with £3000 stashed away in the savings account & the prospect of the same again & a maybe a little bit more by next april....
We're very happy with Gordy lol.....
(though I wont vote for him).
Can I trade in my hubby and get £2000 off a new one?
He's over 10 years old, has an MOT (although is likely to fail his next one due to a dodgy back), and says he feels only fit for the scrap yard.
It's official. Hardly anyone's taking up the £2000 offer (well according to the BBC news).
I asked a friend who has a car over 10 years old if they'd considered it. They told me the reason they drive an old banger is because they can't afford a 'new' car, especially as they'd lose more than £2000 just taking it off the forecourt!
well..only started today....and the report from reuters I read says already sales are up 25% on last year for this month. Its mostly bottom end new cars as thats what people can afford. Bit still good and healthy result.
Surely anything that gets old, petrol guzzling, heavy polluting cars off the street should be a welcomed.
as can been seen from below....which is copy from reutiers site...they have only temporarily pulled out....this is because they quibbling about when they get the £2000 off the goverment. It is to be paid every quarter..where Ford and Honda want it every month....but as can seen...still very much committed to it !!
A spokesman for Ford said that despite the last-minute hitch, it "remains committed to this scheme to stimulate sales within the sector and help protect jobs."
A Honda spokesman said the company had instructed dealers not to register any cars under the scheme until there was "clarity" on a number of points.
What gets me is the fact that there has never been so many "New cars" stockpiled and being left for months some over a year! all over Britain. If there needs to be a movement of these cars so as production can be maintained then why not just sell off the existing stock at really low prices with half decent HP schemes. At the moment the stock is just losing money.
OK i can see the arguements against this though in my mind I think they are weaker than the ones for.
i agree with you lost,
next year my car will be 10 years old, but as they have to have a full mot etc, after getting through that and paying for that work imlikely to just hang on to the car,seems stupid to scrap it when its road worthy for another year.
anyhow, while i understand the reasoning behid this scheme to get old more pouluting cars off the road, unless there is a good finance deal i couldnt afford to buy a new car, the deal id get would eat into the £2000 just in intrest.
so im more likely to sell mine for about £1500 cash and buy second hand ( newer) with cash and try and get a better deal.
what about if i want to by a gas guzzler new car? do i still get the 2k?
why am i typing this as i cant afford the car ive got let alone a new one lol
xx fem xx
