Brown shits on Bliar

Quote by jumptoit
GNV you live in France and obviously love it, so why do you continually slag off the politicians and government and various other things you dislike about the UK, are things so rosey in France that all the politicians continually get it right, i mean there are never strikes or riots or immigration problems there are they?!?!?
Just wondered and thats why i am asking.
Cassie

Quote by Kaznkev
No way are they worse now!
Igrew up in newcastle,the poverty and lack of hope were so thick you could cut them with a like blyth are still suffering from the mines closing
still remember on my first trip to london age 14 seeing a temp agency and my uncle having to explain wat it was,i was a bright kid but couldnt understand why there were more jobs than people
And lets not even go into the falling down schools,cuts in nurse and doctor training places TO PAY FOR TAX CUTS and the refusal to allow councils to invest in their housing stock,which has led to the housing shortages of today

Quote by Staggerlee_BB
I grew up in South Yorkshire ....no miners here not after about '86 anyway.
You're right about the public spending

Quote by kentswingers777
GNV you live in France and obviously love it, so why do you continually slag off the politicians and government and various other things you dislike about the UK, are things so rosey in France that all the politicians continually get it right, i mean there are never strikes or riots or immigration problems there are they?!?!?
Just wondered and thats why i am asking.
Cassie

"I think we've been through a period where too many people have been given to understand that if they have a problem, it's the government's job to cope with it. 'I have a problem, I'll get a grant.' 'I'm homeless, the government must house me.' They're casting their problem on society. And, you know, there is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first. It's our duty to look after ourselves and then, also to look after our neighbour. People have got the entitlements too much in mind, without the obligations. There's no such thing as entitlement, unless someone has first met an obligation."

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And of course the conservative party never packed the house of lords with its own cronies.
No prime minister is elected.
The prime minister is the leader of the party that forms the government.
Obviously, there is an election coming.

Quote by BrightonGeezer
I grew up in South Yorkshire ....no miners here not after about '86 anyway.
You're right about the public spending

Senior lobbyists told PRWeek they were aware of 'advanced discussions' regarding the elevation of the 20 individuals. Some of them are tipped for ministerial roles.
One leading public affairs agency, Mandate Communications, said it had obtained the information through discussions with Tory MPs and advisers at the Conservative Party conference last week.
Mandate is now looking to strengthen its relationships with the 20 potential peers, many of whom could be set for ministerial posts in a Conservative government.
1. Sir Peter Gershon – Government efficiency expert. Being considered for a Ministerial role making some of the toughest spending-cuts decisions facing an incoming Conservative administration.
2. Stuart Rose – Marks & Spencer Chairman whom the Tories plan to recognise for both his business acumen and his profile amongst the corporate responsibility community thanks to Marks & Spencer’s “Plan A”.
3. Jonathon Porritt – friend of the Prince of Wales and environmental campaigner. Being considered for post Copenhagen summit roving “Green Envoy” role.
4. Michael Spencer – critical lynchpin of Conservative election planning, leading party “ambassador” to the City and responsible for restoring Conservative financial health in his role as Party Treasurer. Cameron wants to keep those relationships friendly in the first few tough years of a new Government.
5. DeAnne Julius – Chair of Chatham House and former member of the Bank of England Monetary Policy Committee, will add significant gravitas – and gender balance – to the Conservatives in the House of Lords.
6. Angela Knight – former Conservative MP and current head of the British Bankers’ Association. Her appointment will send a signal to the banking sector that the Conservatives plan to work with banks to encourage recovery and seek to avoid demonising them. But it also shows that the Conservatives want a banking “insider” to help sell their vision for the new regulatory regime.
7. Ann Widdecombe – a reward for years of service in the Commons and also a symbol to the right wing of the Conservative Party that David Cameron has not forgotten that they helped his rise to the leadership.
8. Sir Howard Bernstein – Chief Executive of Manchester City Council, host to this year’s Conservative Party Conference.
9. Sir Richard Dannatt – former Chief of the Defence Staff. Respected for his independence; David Cameron hopes to rebuild bridges between government and the military brass that have strained under Labour.
10. Sir John Tusa – not a natural Tory, but as the leader of the Conservative Taskforce on the Arts in 2007, Tusa is an ambassador between the Conservative Party and the naturally left-leaning arts establishment.
11. Bill Emmott – former editor of the Economist and commentator on the growth of Chinese economic and political power. Being considered to advise the Conservative frontbench foreign policy team.
12. Sir Alan Haselhurst – recognition that there is a continued role for this respected Conservative Parliamentarian who had, until just a few months ago, been considered the favourite to become Speaker of the House of Commons.
13. Sir John Major – previously refused a peerage when offered. Now being convinced to take the position to give “elder statesman” support to a young new Prime Minister.
14. Harpal Kumar – whilst the Cancer Research UK CEO will be at pains to retain his independence, the Conservatives are keen to make a strong gesture to the campaigning community by elevating this leading charity sector figure.
15. Jill Kirby – Director of the Centre for Policy Studies and responsible for advancing Conservative thinking across a range of policy areas.
16. Robin Wight – Advertising industry legend (and President of Mandate’s parent communications group, Engine). A former Conservative Parliamentary candidate. Mooted as a link to the creative industries and symbol that the new Conservative Party is not afraid to include a man whose wardrobe includes purple and pink Oswald Boateng suits.
17. Sir Simon Milton – central figure of the new Conservative local government establishment.
18. David Ross – co-founder of the Carphone Warehouse and another senior business figure who has been close to the Conservative leadership.
19. Tim Berners-Lee – the man behind the World Wide Web contributed to Labour’s Digital Britain, but the Conservatives want his credibility behind their policies to implement the next stage in the country’s digital development.
20. Kirsty Allsopp – presenter of Location, Location, Location, famed for her pashminas, Allsopp has already been advising the Conservatives on housing matters. The daughter of a Peer, the Lords should hold no fear for the famous property developer, and her elevation would add a populist touch to proceedings.

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And of course the conservative party never packed the house of lords with its own cronies.
No prime minister is elected.
The prime minister is the leader of the party that forms the government.
Obviously, there is an election coming.

Senior lobbyists told PRWeek they were aware of 'advanced discussions' regarding the elevation of the 20 individuals. Some of them are tipped for ministerial roles.
One leading public affairs agency, Mandate Communications, said it had obtained the information through discussions with Tory MPs and advisers at the Conservative Party conference last week.

Quote by JTS
It makes no difference to me, nor to those who live abroad.
Anything labour does now, or is doing now, has been done before by conservative govs.
Or will be done in the future by whatever govs there are.
Until the lords is done away with and replaced by an elected house, hopefully soon.
Nothing is new in politics.
600 crooks ruling over 60 million saps.

Quote by JTS
It was a conservative government that signed Britain into the common market, which morphed into the european union.
The conservatives make a lot of questioning eu membership, but they will not remove this country from the eu.
Factually, if the country left the eu it would slump to third world status immediately.
Taxation barriers would immediately go up.
The billions saved in eu donations would be dwarfed by the loss of exports and tax barriers.
Almost certainly the welfare state would have to be severely pruned and many public institutions would not survive.
Even more of a worry is that Germany would almost certainly become the dominant state, with all the historical risk that entails.
Probably several other states would leave the eu at the same time: Poland and Denmark, and maybe Italy.

Quote by GnV
It was a conservative government that signed Britain into the common market, which morphed into the european union.
The conservatives make a lot of questioning eu membership, but they will not remove this country from the eu.
Factually, if the country left the eu it would slump to third world status immediately.
Taxation barriers would immediately go up.
The billions saved in eu donations would be dwarfed by the loss of exports and tax barriers.
Almost certainly the welfare state would have to be severely pruned and many public institutions would not survive.
Even more of a worry is that Germany would almost certainly become the dominant state, with all the historical risk that entails.
Probably several other states would leave the eu at the same time: Poland and Denmark, and maybe Italy.