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Can we afford a little present for the Queen?
Buying the Queen a new yacht is a daft idea: there are lots of other projects we can spend £60 million on
Should we cough up £60 million to pay for a royal yacht for the Queen? I have to say that in these times of financial austerity and belt-tightening, I would have imagined that a campaign to buy one of the world’s richest women a new pleasure boat would be a charity that might struggle. I’d like to see it put into one of those Waitrose charity competitions to see how it fares.

Has any one asked her if she actually wants one
dunno
or is this just Micheal Gove trying to get a 'headline', when he should actually be doing his job, plus trying to sort out Education and negotiating on pensions in that industry :doh:
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Has any one asked her if she actually wants one :doh:

It would not be a surprise if we asked first wink
know of 1 going for spares or repair
does she reely need one at all dunno
i mean where would she go with it? surely a nice new plane would be much more economical for her maj? lol
Of course we should buy her a new yacht, and the aeroplane someone mentioned, she lives in London therefore we have no choice but to spend money on her, like we did the firework display in London for Londoners on NYE, did your council do you a nice firework display in the Town, City, Village where you live ? I am guessing most are saying no.
£15 Billion on the final bill for the Olympics, yes some will make money from it, some areas will be improved, mostly Londoners and London areas.
Our Nations capital is also our Nations biggest cash grabbing, self indulgent bunch of hypocrits that our Nation knows.
MOD said we can't afford any new helicopters when they were requested by our Generals trying to take care of our soldiers, but in the same week we opened a new Law Court in London that cost £55 Million just to refurbish it so that 12 Judges could use it.
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Of course we should buy her a new yacht, and the aeroplane someone mentioned, she lives in London therefore we have no choice but to spend money on her, like we did the firework display in London for Londoners on NYE, did your council do you a nice firework display in the Town, City, Village where you live ? I am guessing most are saying no.
£15 Billion on the final bill for the Olympics, yes some will make money from it, some areas will be improved, mostly Londoners and London areas.
Our Nations capital is also our Nations biggest cash grabbing, self indulgent bunch of hypocrits that our Nation knows.
MOD said we can't afford any new helicopters when they were requested by our Generals trying to take care of our soldiers, but in the same week we opened a new Law Court in London that cost £55 Million just to refurbish it so that 12 Judges could use it.

We spent new years eve on camp with some friends, and watched a nice firework disply put on by the Royal Signals.
Dorset coast line is hosting the sailing so I guess we have and will also benefited from this.
I guess we are the exception, rather than the rule though
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Of course we should buy her a new yacht, and the aeroplane someone mentioned, she lives in London therefore we have no choice but to spend money on her, like we did the firework display in London for Londoners on NYE, did your council do you a nice firework display in the Town, City, Village where you live ? I am guessing most are saying no.

oh dear let me have a look. yep was right you are nowhere near the CAPITAL are you? well three years ago me and mrs star went to see the fireworks and there were peeple from all over the country there. It is not just a london thing you know. pop down next year. stay at a nice hotel and see in the sights and sounds of new year in one of the best cities in the world. staying in the midlands is not good for you lol
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£15 Billion on the final bill for the Olympics, yes some will make money from it, some areas will be improved, mostly Londoners and London areas.

mostly londoners? i refer you to the reply above. peeple will be coming from all over england and may i say europe and possibly places like america etc. you are a bit jealous of london it seems.dunno
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Our Nations capital is also our Nations biggest cash grabbing, self indulgent bunch of hypocrits that our Nation knows.

oh dear it is all getting a bit boring now. we live near london, we love london and would not want to live anywhere else. you it seems would love to be able to live somehwere else. LONDON :giggle:
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MOD said we can't afford any new helicopters when they were requested by our Generals trying to take care of our soldiers, but in the same week we opened a new Law Court in London that cost £55 Million just to refurbish it so that 12 Judges could use it.

london again. what is it you hate so much about london fgs? seems the greeny eyed monster is lurking in the deep in the depths of sh towers.:notes:
sorry it is repetative. as leslie crowther used to say " come on down " :grin:
you have the NEC. is that not enough? :lol:
pop down to us next new years eve. we can show you a few sights and the fireworks and then back to your hotel for a nice fumble between all of us.:thumbup:
Isn't most of this country's economy derived from work in the heart of our nations great capital?
I live in Plymouth and commute to Newcastle and have contracts in London. And am very thankful for them indeed!!
A new royal yacht, built with private funding, is being considered by the prime minister, Downing Street says.
The government would "react favourably" to the Future Ship Project which aims to build a royal yacht for hosting royal events.
The BBC understands David Cameron has given his "full support" to the plan.
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A new royal yacht, built with private funding, is being considered by the prime minister, Downing Street says.
The government would "react favourably" to the Future Ship Project which aims to build a royal yacht for hosting royal events.
The BBC understands David Cameron has given his "full support" to the plan.

bet it will be built in fucking london bluefish rotflmao
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A new royal yacht, built with private funding, is being considered by the prime minister, Downing Street says.
The government would "react favourably" to the Future Ship Project which aims to build a royal yacht for hosting royal events.
The BBC understands David Cameron has given his "full support" to the plan.

bet it will be built in fucking london bluefish rotflmao
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There maybe fireworks and a party when/if they launch it lol
Hope it is built here, better to keep such things in this country than abroad
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A new royal yacht, built with private funding, is being considered by the prime minister, Downing Street says.
The government would "react favourably" to the Future Ship Project which aims to build a royal yacht for hosting royal events.
The BBC understands David Cameron has given his "full support" to the plan.

bet it will be built in fucking london bluefish rotflmao
:laughabove:
There maybe fireworks and a party when/if they launch it lol
Hope it is built here, better to keep such things in this country than abroad
It will be as it will be designated as an RN vessel. Either barrow or on the clyde....but the best bespoke yacht builders in this country is down in devon at the royal dockyard!
If I live to 80 odd can I have a boat?
Seriously - what should be done to celebrate this event is local museums and libraries should be funded permanently. She or her family can go and visit them all to pull the little curtain off the plaque - but they MUST be kept open.
Her grateful nation to buy her a £80 Million yacht to celebrate? When did we suddenly fall back into Victorian times?
And don't fall for that rubbish about 'public funding'. It won't be enough - they will pull in tax money, MY MONEY, to cover the difference and then spend more of my money feeling it and feeding the crew.
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If I live to 80 odd can I have a boat?

why?
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Her grateful nation to buy her a £80 Million yacht to celebrate? When did we suddenly fall back into Victorian times?

dont blame her maj. show me anywhere where she has said that she has wanted anything. have a word with the right honourable gentlemen in the commons who wants to honour the fact she has been our queen for 60 yeers.
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And don't fall for that rubbish about 'public funding'. It won't be enough - they will pull in tax money, MY MONEY, to cover the difference and then spend more of my money feeling it and feeding the crew.

no OUR money not just your money. unless you earn as much and contribute like say the chelsea owner does to the tax system dunno
the queen deserves a medal being queen to this country for 60 yeers. all the money she brings in, the history. still some would say that britains history is being forgotten to please others. i say if a boat is what it takes to show the gratitude to the queen for 60 yeers of bloody hard work, then give her for the week and one for weekends :thumbup:
i am not a great royalist but even i can see she has done more service for this country than most peeple can only ever dream about. she deserved not just a boat but a big medal to.
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Of course we should buy her a new yacht, and the aeroplane someone mentioned, she lives in London therefore we have no choice but to spend money on her, like we did the firework display in London for Londoners on NYE, did your council do you a nice firework display in the Town, City, Village where you live ? I am guessing most are saying no.

oh dear let me have a look. yep was right you are nowhere near the CAPITAL are you? well three years ago me and mrs star went to see the fireworks and there were peeple from all over the country there. It is not just a london thing you know. pop down next year. stay at a nice hotel and see in the sights and sounds of new year in one of the best cities in the world. staying in the midlands is not good for you lol
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£15 Billion on the final bill for the Olympics, yes some will make money from it, some areas will be improved, mostly Londoners and London areas.

mostly londoners? i refer you to the reply above. peeple will be coming from all over england and may i say europe and possibly places like america etc. you are a bit jealous of london it seems.dunno
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Our Nations capital is also our Nations biggest cash grabbing, self indulgent bunch of hypocrits that our Nation knows.

oh dear it is all getting a bit boring now. we live near london, we love london and would not want to live anywhere else. you it seems would love to be able to live somehwere else. LONDON :giggle:
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MOD said we can't afford any new helicopters when they were requested by our Generals trying to take care of our soldiers, but in the same week we opened a new Law Court in London that cost £55 Million just to refurbish it so that 12 Judges could use it.

london again. what is it you hate so much about london fgs? seems the greeny eyed monster is lurking in the deep in the depths of sh towers.:notes:
sorry it is repetative. as leslie crowther used to say " come on down " :grin:
you have the NEC. is that not enough? :lol:
pop down to us next new years eve. we can show you a few sights and the fireworks and then back to your hotel for a nice fumble between all of us.:thumbup:
The NEC is between the Cities of Birmingham and Coventry, about 1.5 hours from the City of Stoke on Trent.
You didn't really use the old "jealousy" kop out did you, I guess that is always a good one to use when you don't have a good answer to something. pop down to London, no thank you, I cannot stand the place and yes I have been many times, the only City in the Country who think they can ask for independancy from the rest of England, personally I prefer Stoke on Trent where my 9 room house (not including kitchen, loo and bathroom and 3 car garage) would be put on the market for a staggering £120,000, in most London areas you could add another 0 to that, and for what, a smog filled city that has to impose smog taxes on vehicles, I am happy where I am thanks.
Are we jealous no, but we do begrugde the constant news we here about "London to get new .......?
its much the same north south divide here in wales ... most of any serious money spent on anything is spent down south cardiff way as opposed to ooop norf angelsey to chester
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You didn't really use the old "jealousy" kop out did you, I guess that is always a good one to use when you don't have a good answer to something. pop down to London, no thank you, I cannot stand the place and yes I have been many times, the only City in the Country who think they can ask for independancy from the rest of England, personally I prefer Stoke on Trent where my 9 room house (not including kitchen, loo and bathroom and 3 car garage) would be put on the market for a staggering £120,000, in most London areas you could add another 0 to that, and for what, a smog filled city that has to impose smog taxes on vehicles, I am happy where I am thanks.
Are we jealous no, but we do begrugde the constant news we here about "London to get new .......?

and your valid point is exactly dunno
oh and btw, the taxes on vehicles is as we all know a european directive to save the planet, but we all know it is nothing more than another tax. so be thankful that by living where you do that it is a tax you do not have to
the rest of your reply frankly comes from someone who does not know anything about london! your last paragraph is well, laughable rotflmao:rotflmao:
Is she the Queen of London? No. She is the Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
So the 'celebrations' if there must be any, should be equally spread throughout the Kingdom. That includes Skye, John O'Groats, Land's End, Angelsey, Northern Ireland, Maidenhead, Scarborough, Crewe and all the rest of the places where the people whose taxes are paying for it live. Surely that's only fair?
Saying 'anyone can go to London to watch'. Sure we could, the point is we shouldn't have to. (£50 for each person on the train, £5 underground tickets, overpriced food, £100 for one night in a hotel that's on top of the £35 each way for me to get to a train station - total for me alone about £250) It's OUR Monarchy too. Except it isn't is it - we just pay for it and are expected to 'show our gratitude' anyway.
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Is she the Queen of London? No. She is the Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

you are correct :notes:
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So the 'celebrations' if there must be any, should be equally spread throughout the Kingdom.

i am sure there will be celebrations up and down the country, and i am sure that instead of moaning about it but spend your time at your local council. where i am sure they will tell you of all the celebrations that YOUR local borough or town will be laying on. i take it from the bold bit above that your obviusly not a lover of any celebrations as to our queen yes OUR queen celebrating 60 years on the throne? go on hop on a bus to your local council, i am sure there is something for you to do lol they may even be looking for some volunteers wink
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Saying 'anyone can go to London to watch'. Sure we could, the point is we shouldn't have to. (£50 for each person on the train, £5 underground tickets, overpriced food, £100 for one night in a hotel that's on top of the £35 each way for me to get to a train station - total for me alone about £250) It's OUR Monarchy too. Except it isn't is it - we just pay for it and are expected to 'show our gratitude' anyway.

then dont show your gratitude and stay at home or go swimming or something similar. have you any idea how that sounds? nobody is being forced to do anything they do not want to, and all the moaners out there i bet will take the bank holiday that comes with those celebrations :twisted:
next some will be moaning about the olympics and the cost for peeple to get to london. it is the capital city, where would you like it held, manchester or birmingham? :doh:
yes i bet some moaners will still moan while they have the day off with full pay. i think this site shoulod have a very angry face emotion. :notes:
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it is the capital city

So? For the majority of us it is just a place that is expensive to get to, expensive to stay in and has very little to offer that can't be found anywhere else in the UK at a much better price and in much pleasanter surroundings. Ever been to York? Now THAT's a lovely city and worth visiting. Granted there are places I would less prefer to visit than London - such as Runcorn - but it certainly isn't my first choice for any visit.
And, yes we are forced to 'show our gratitude' by the fact that our taxes are being used to demonstrate it. There are people losing their DLA and cannot get out of their homes without relying on the uncertain favours of friends and neighbours, there are libraries closing, support groups for parents of dying children limiting how many people they can help (the list goes on) and for that to be the case and public money going to a shindig is disgusting.
As I have mentioned - there are many ways this can be celebrated, such as supporting libraries and museums, creating open parks for people to enjoy, providing new buildings for organisations that help the helpless - every one of them better than a party or a boat for the use of one person.
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it is the capital city

So? For the majority of us it is just a place that is expensive to get to, expensive to stay in and has very little to offer that can't be found anywhere else in the UK at a much better price and in much pleasanter surroundings. Ever been to York? Now THAT's a lovely city and worth visiting. Granted there are places I would less prefer to visit than London - such as Runcorn - but it certainly isn't my first choice for any visit.
yes have been to york. not as expensive as london i grant you but the cost of the train fares there. it cost me and mrs star £50 return EACH. then the cost of the hotel and then a meal etc. We spent over £400 on a weekend there. that amount for a trip to york fgs. you get the piucture? where ever anyone goes to in the uk, if it is a distance to get there it is going to cost a lot of money, and still will not have the buzz and the excitement that london does :thumbup:
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And, yes we are forced to 'show our gratitude' by the fact that our taxes are being used to demonstrate it. There are people losing their DLA and cannot get out of their homes without relying on the uncertain favours of friends and neighbours, there are libraries closing, support groups for parents of dying children limiting how many people they can help (the list goes on) and for that to be the case and public money going to a shindig is disgusting.

you want something to moan about then channel all of your energy into this one. a shindig? a shindig? it is a celebration for EVERYONE to mark 60 years of our queen. because you and a few others in general think it is a waste of money, thankfully your voices will not be heard as the majority will out vote you, and the celebrations will go ahead. will you be taking the day off as a bank holiday?

now that buys a lot of library's!
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As I have mentioned - there are many ways this can be celebrated, such as supporting libraries and museums, creating open parks for people to enjoy, providing new buildings for organisations that help the helpless - every one of them better than a party or a boat for the use of one person.

as i have given you a link to look at above. shindig indeed. innocent
who are help the helpless anyways? i needed help 3 yeers ago when i lost my house through losing my job. nobody helped me as i got myself up off the floor. i earn not even the average salary yet i still love london. i love what london has and what it brings to the table. it is the heart of the uk. the heart beat and the brains. york has a few pretty buildings and not a great deel more to be honest. london is the financial capital of the world, and it held the best fireworks display this yeer as well. some even moaned about that expense as well. :sad:
To be honest I don't know why I'm getting so cross about it - I have no say in the matter. Hopefully it will be too nice a day on the extra bank holiday (I assume that's when the flotilla and such like will happen) to to stay indoors and watch the telly. I'll probably spend the day on the allotment - I got loads of digging done on last year's royal wedding.
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To be honest I don't know why I'm getting so cross about it - I have no say in the matter. Hopefully it will be too nice a day on the extra bank holiday (I assume that's when the flotilla and such like will happen) to to stay indoors and watch the telly. I'll probably spend the day on the allotment - I got loads of digging done on last year's royal wedding.

with full pay i hope? wink
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As I have mentioned - there are many ways this can be celebrated, such as supporting libraries and museums, creating open parks for people to enjoy, providing new buildings for organisations that help the helpless - every one of them better than a party or a boat for the use of one person.

The Future Ship Project for the 21st Century (FSP21), which is the project that David Caameron has shown interest in, is not a boat for the use of one person. For those that couldn't be bothered to follow the link that Bluefish provided, I have copied and pasted the article below.
Background
During the 1990s a small group of professionals set up the Cadland Consortium to develop their concept of a large, gracious sailing ship as a successor to HMY Britannia. Their Royal Sail Training Ship (RSTS) proposals would have allowed about 2,000 young people each year, from all walks of life, to enjoy the benefits of adventure training under sail whilst at the same time assisting with national and international events.
The RSTS would have provided a secure and stately venue for Royal visits and associated industrial and commercial activities. On occasions the young people, who would have been called Queen’s Cadets, would act as young ambassadors for the UK.
There would have been no procurement cost to the Government and about £40m of the £65m build cost had been found from private sources before any other fundraising efforts. The running costs would have been found from the sponsorship of the Queen's Cadets by industry, individuals and voluntary organisations, all having demonstrated strong support for the concept.
After much deliberation the Conservative Government decided to go ahead with a conventional powered replacement for HMY Britannia, funded by the Government. When the Labour Government came to power it decided that HMY Britannia would not be replaced.
Noting the continued interest in the idea of a large national sail training ship, the Cadland Consortium decided to re-focus its ideas, initiating discussions with universities and education authorities about the overall educational benefits which could be derived from combining academic and practical studies with adventure training under sail. This had been undertaken with outstanding success on a smaller scale in other countries. They named their concept the Future Ship Project for the 21st Century (FSP21).
Education
FSP21 will offer unique opportunities to provide flexible and responsive programmes for a wide range of young people who would benefit from this style of education and activity. The FSP21 project will positively link young people between school and the world of work, school and university, university and post-graduate studies and research. Course lengths will be varied to suit the trainee, ranging from two weeks for the adventure training function through to a number of weeks for professional training, about three months for those pursuing academic studies and up to 12 months for maritime trainees.
Environment
The University of the Oceans will undertake research into the environment and health of the oceans. The scientific facilities will be used by students pursuing a variety of environmental related courses including oceanography, climate change, meteorology and fishery conservation.
The ship will also demonstrate how renewable energy resources can be used in the maritime industry. Its design will embody the spirit of the Rio ’92 Convention and incorporate not only the environmental protection requirements of the International Maritime Organisation but also all possible steps to reduce emissions to their lowest practical level. In operational terms this will achieve ‘zero emission’ for much of the lifetime of the vessel. Initially diesel electric, in the future internal and propulsion power will be generated from photovoltaics in the sails and around the hull.
Life skills
Through living, learning and working with others, participants aboard the ship will learn key life skills as well as studying academic and vocational courses. Overall the University of the Oceans will develop confidence, communication skills and promote team building.
Who benefits
The University of the Oceans will provide unique opportunities for flexible and responsive education and adventure training programmes for over 1,000 young people a year:
Those who leave school at 16.
Those continuing at school after GCSEs.
Those undertaking professional courses (NVQs, etc).
Young people from youth and cadet organisations.
Young people from industry.
Under-graduates and graduates pursuing higher degrees.
Trainees from the maritime industry.
Those who aim to work in the sail training industry
The ship will provide high quality and flexible facilities for conferences and exhibitions, which will be entirely suited to national and international events.
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Having read the post I think that is a 'good thing' but it clearly isn't what the idiot Gove was suggesting. This is him quoted on "My suggestion would be a gift from the nation to her majesty; thinking about David Willetts's excellent suggestion of a royal yacht, and something tangible to commemorate this momentous occasion."
Downing Street rejected Gove's suggestion.
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Downing Street rejected Gove's suggestion.

Shame they didn't reject his job application.
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If she wants a boat let her buy her own