as the cost of fuel continues to rise are peeple on here taking any steps to reduce there fuel costs?
a litre of diesel and £100 to now fill up an average family car. soon there will be another 3p a litre increase in the twice yeerly fuel rises through taxation.
where will this end and what happened to the fuel lobbies who stopped tankers from leaving fuel depots when the price reeched 80p a litre? surely something must be done and i get tired of the governments blaming the rising prices on problems in the middle east. the tax on a litre of fuel is massive and surely the government should be at least looking at freezing fuel duty and looking at ways to bring the tax on fuel down a bit as this affects everyone of us.
from filling out own cars up to having to pay higher prices in the shops as the haulage companies try and claw back the fuel rises through delivery charges. this in turn gets added on to food prices. surely something has to be done before fuel reaches £2 a litre, not a gallon but a litre.
what would others here like to see be done about the cost of fuel and do peeple now only use there car for urgent use or are peeple still using there cars just as much as say 3 yeers ago?
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Silent taxation I think it is generally called. I do think it hurts business really more than anything else. This in turn causes prices to rise at the shops, as the cost of delivery is now increasing.
On a personal level, I do make less use of the car. maybe a good thing in some ways. my supermarket is only a mile up the road, and so I more often than not walk up there. Tends to mean I go each day and spend money, rather than doing one big weekly shop, as i wouldn't be able to carry that many bags !!!
Not alot we can do, other than lobby your MP for a change really.
On a personal level, I do make less use of the car. maybe a good thing in some ways. my supermarket is only a mile up the road, and so I more often than not walk up there. Tends to mean I go each day and spend money, rather than doing one big weekly shop, as i wouldn't be able to carry that many bags !!!
Not alot we can do, other than lobby your MP for a change really.
Sex God
quite ironic when you think that the USA pays 49p on average a litre
but then roll on the hydrogen car Toyota currently runs two models in the USA and i doubt those greedy in taxes and oil are aware the time is nigh
but then roll on the hydrogen car Toyota currently runs two models in the USA and i doubt those greedy in taxes and oil are aware the time is nigh
Sex God
Quote by Lizaleanrob
quite ironic when you think that the USA pays 49p on average a litre
but then roll on the hydrogen car Toyota currently runs two models in the USA and i doubt those greedy in taxes and oil are aware the time is nigh
Trouble is by the time the likes of me will be able to afford a Hydrogen/Alternative fuel car they will be old hat and almost defunct......
i have a motorbike which is 11 years old and i use it daily.
when i bought it a full tank cost me about £6-£7 to fill.
now its
a month going to work costs round £100 just in fuel and its only a 500cc bike.
i sold my 1000cc because the cost of running it was just getting stupid.
i was out of work for about 2 months and in that time my council tax was reduced from £120 a month to £4.i got help with my rent etc
and with the increase in gas and electric i can see why people sometimes are better off not working and claiming benefits.
not the correct way to live but with all these increasing demands on your income i can understand why some people cannot work because they would be worse off.
and thats sad in itself.
when i bought it a full tank cost me about £6-£7 to fill.
now its
a month going to work costs round £100 just in fuel and its only a 500cc bike.
i sold my 1000cc because the cost of running it was just getting stupid.
i was out of work for about 2 months and in that time my council tax was reduced from £120 a month to £4.i got help with my rent etc
and with the increase in gas and electric i can see why people sometimes are better off not working and claiming benefits.
not the correct way to live but with all these increasing demands on your income i can understand why some people cannot work because they would be worse off.
and thats sad in itself.
I think we pay far to much for our fuel, i use my car less because of the price of fuel, i have to use it for work and to do the food shopping but we rarely go on days out that mean a long journey, such as going chams, London etc. We now tend to stay closer to home for social activities. Food bills are far more now to, supermarkets have increased their prices to cover the cost of fuel. I live in hope that the price will go down !
Sex God
funny how Morrison's can afford to give 15p/litre off when you spend £60 or more in Morrison's
filled Liza's car up and saved £12
my point is at 15/litre off they are still not selling petrol at a loss
filled Liza's car up and saved £12
my point is at 15/litre off they are still not selling petrol at a loss
We shop at tesco and they occasionally give fuel discounts when you have spent a set amount in the shop but it never amounts to much discount and they also have lowered the Tesco club card points they give you for petrol now so we have started using a local petrol station in our village because it cost the same there and is often more convient. Its annoying that a big company such as tesco cant sell fuel a bit cheaper !
Sex God
The price of diesel in rural filling stations is, on average, 4p more than in urban areas, a new survey has shown.
Quote by Bluefish2009
The price of diesel in rural filling stations is, on average, 4p more than in urban areas, a new survey has shown.
Just like the yokels will start brewing their own hooch if Cameron gets his way with minimum pricing per unit on alcohol, country folk will start 'brewing' their own diesel.
The UK Government have got this very very wrong.
Sex God
Quote by GnV
The price of diesel in rural filling stations is, on average, 4p more than in urban areas, a new survey has shown.
Just like the yokels will start brewing their own hooch if Cameron gets his way with minimum pricing per unit on alcohol, country folk will start 'brewing' their own diesel.
The UK Government have got this very very wrong.
But look at it from the Governments point of view;
Less journeys mean less wear and tear on the roads = less repair costs! Winner
Less journeys mean less accidents = less cost to emergency services and hospitals! Winner
Less journeys mean less fuel imports, helping our balence of trade! Winner.
And not forgetting it helps towards the Goverments ultimate goal, to turn us all into North Koreans. Think about it........in North Korea you get up, go to work, then go home, there are no entertainment venues for the ordinary people and they have no private cars.
So in Britain, all the pubs are closing down, football clubs are going bust and no one can afford to drive anywhere.................
Yes the above paragraph is tongue in cheek..............so far !!
John
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Rural Dorset motorists worst off in postcode pricing lottery at petrol pumps
Sex God
Quote by Geordiecpl2001
The price of diesel in rural filling stations is, on average, 4p more than in urban areas, a new survey has shown.
Just like the yokels will start brewing their own hooch if Cameron gets his way with minimum pricing per unit on alcohol, country folk will start 'brewing' their own diesel.
The UK Government have got this very very wrong.
But look at it from the Governments point of view;
Less journeys mean less wear and tear on the roads = less repair costs! Winner
Less journeys mean less accidents = less cost to emergency services and hospitals! Winner
Less journeys mean less fuel imports, helping our balence of trade! Winner.
And not forgetting it helps towards the Goverments ultimate goal, to turn us all into North Koreans. Think about it........in North Korea you get up, go to work, then go home, there are no entertainment venues for the ordinary people and they have no private cars.
So in Britain, all the pubs are closing down, football clubs are going bust and no one can afford to drive anywhere.................
Yes the above paragraph is tongue in cheek..............so far !!
John
you forgot
less duty on fuel ................ lose lose
less duty on road tax as less cars on the road .......lose lose
fewer accidents ,fewer car repairs fewer car sales and less road works all mean fewer workers means fewer taxes and more unemployment benefit lose, lose :haha:
off to open a bike shop
Quote by Lizaleanrob
you forgot
less duty on fuel ................ lose lose
less duty on road tax as less cars on the road .......lose lose
fewer accidents ,fewer car repairs fewer car sales and less road works all mean fewer workers means fewer taxes and more unemployment benefit lose, lose :haha:
and the government care because
:dunno::dunno:Quote by Lizaleanrob
off to open a bike shop
if enough peeple ditched there cars for bikes rob, they would put a 500% levy on buying bikes. as voters and taxpayers the only time governments listen is just before an election when they want your vote. after they are in they then go about doing the opposite of what they promised they would do.
the car driver and the smoker and the drinker has always been in the front line every budget day. only now the car and the ability to be able to aford to drive it, is coming to an end for many many peeple. once that happens the government better watch there backs as voters have long memorys.
Sex God
think they have all ready got a new fuel for when petrol runs out.
but they wont bring it on the market cos it would make mass of peeps out of work...
but they wont bring it on the market cos it would make mass of peeps out of work...
Sex God
there's plenty of oil in shale oil but it's just a case of working out how to extract it
one site in the US is estimated to have years worth :eeek:
one site in the US is estimated to have years worth :eeek:
when america nato and israel attack iran, petrol and diesel will be £5 a litre if we are lucky. anyway, more tax is needed to cut family allowance and invalidity beneft, cut pensions and drive up the cost of food and energy. we never had it so good.
dave says iran has got missiles that can hit london so we gotta send them peace bombs. obama (barry soereto) says they gotta bomb syria to create safe havens for the rebels and he is going to arm them ?
v.a.t. is only 20% income tax and national insurance only comes to 30% ish and carbon tax on gas and electricity is only 1.5%. my local authority is only putting up the community charge by !0% and inheritance tax is only 40% and me road fund licence (tax) only goes up 20 quid or so a year. and bankers who from off shore holding companies pay no tax and enjoy record bonuses for fucking up the international banking system have had to be bailed out from us taxpayers cos otherwise the whole system would come crashing down. mmmm scrachin me ed, how does all that work then ? must be them pesky foreigners agen.
as i said before. you aint seen nothin yet.
dave says iran has got missiles that can hit london so we gotta send them peace bombs. obama (barry soereto) says they gotta bomb syria to create safe havens for the rebels and he is going to arm them ?
v.a.t. is only 20% income tax and national insurance only comes to 30% ish and carbon tax on gas and electricity is only 1.5%. my local authority is only putting up the community charge by !0% and inheritance tax is only 40% and me road fund licence (tax) only goes up 20 quid or so a year. and bankers who from off shore holding companies pay no tax and enjoy record bonuses for fucking up the international banking system have had to be bailed out from us taxpayers cos otherwise the whole system would come crashing down. mmmm scrachin me ed, how does all that work then ? must be them pesky foreigners agen.
as i said before. you aint seen nothin yet.
Sex God
Oh God, here we go again 
Quote by GnV
same old same old.....
So how did you vote in the survey then
somehow gnv i doubt if gulson was the one and only person so far to vote, it should be higher to stop peeple from using there cars.
but i can think of a couple who may have voted that way. funny though as that person who voted that way, i bet my little pinky testicles
that they own a car and drive it every day. I don't know what I pay for a litre or a gallon of Diesel, the simple fact I face is that if I need it I have to pay the price but I am this way because I rarely use my car, it is 18 months old and has less than 5000 miles on the clock so with that kind of useage it is not worth me caring, I sympathise with those that have to do a lot of mileage and especially those in London who have to pay to park outside thier home or to travel around the area they live in, I am against this form of taxation, of course if your a politician you can claim it back as expenses and don't even have to pay road tax for your 1st vehicle so it's not bad for everyone and as a politician you can even claim back your fuel costs for getting to and from work so at least some people can stay above the poverty line and still run a car comfortably, oh and you can claim back any interest you pay on purchasing your car and the VAT element of purchasing it, service costs, new tyres etc.
Quote by MidsCouple24
I don't know what I pay for a litre or a gallon of Diesel, the simple fact I face is that if I need it I have to pay the price but I am this way because I rarely use my car, it is 18 months old and has less than 5000 miles on the clock so with that kind of useage it is not worth me caring, I sympathise with those that have to do a lot of mileage and especially those in London who have to pay to park outside thier home or to travel around the area they live in, I am against this form of taxation, of course if your a politician you can claim it back as expenses and don't even have to pay road tax for your 1st vehicle so it's not bad for everyone and as a politician you can even claim back your fuel costs for getting to and from work so at least some people can stay above the poverty line and still run a car comfortably, oh and you can claim back any interest you pay on purchasing your car and the VAT element of purchasing it, service costs, new tyres etc.
ah so your are one of the two then?
Quote by MidsCouple24
and especially those in London who have to pay to park outside thier home or to travel around the area they live in
i think we have done the london does everything wrong talk.
i think you will find that london is not the only place where your comments are correct. there are plenty of other places where you would have to pay or have a permit to park outside your house. they are not all in london you will be suprised to heer. :doh:
these are not just in london where parking outside your home is a problem. i have a permit that is given to me by my local council. no charges for me and i live in london :thumbup:
seems paying to park even in your area costs money.
Quote by MidsCouple24
, of course if your a politician you can claim it back as expenses and don't even have to pay road tax for your 1st vehicle so it's not bad for everyone and as a politician you can even claim back your fuel costs for getting to and from work so at least some people can stay above the poverty line and still run a car comfortably, oh and you can claim back any interest you pay on purchasing your car and the VAT element of purchasing it, service costs, new tyres etc.
Are you sure about these facts?
Look at page 26, on the following link
"9.4 Other than at paragraph below, no claims will be payable for the cost of the MP's daily commute to and from a place of work. This includes journeys between:
a. Westminster and an MP's residence in the London Area; or b. an MP's constituency residence and their constituency office."
It goes on to say:
" Private cars, motorcycles or bicycles may be used as an alternative to public transport where there is a specific need or it is cost-effective to do so. An MP undertaking a journey by private transport as the driver, will be reimbursed in accordance with the rates set out in IPSA's guidance.
Where more than one MP travels in the same car, only one of the MPs may submit a claim for the cost of each journey."
There is also a table of motor mileage rates, which is 45p per mile for the 1st 10K miles. This is exactly the same allowance that anyone using their own car for business purposes can claim from their employer without it being subject to tax.
The items you state, ie claiming back interest on purchasing the car, service costs etc etc are the costs that businesses can set off against tax.
Sex God
Quote by gulsonroad30664
you aint seen nothin yet.
That's true - for all your 'the end is nigh' ranting, WE AIN'T SEEN NONE OF IT YET.
Do you really think anyone is reading your crap for its factual content?
Sex God
Quote by Bluefish2009
The price of diesel in rural filling stations is, on average, 4p more than in urban areas, a new survey has shown.
Funny I just looked for an old post on the subject of discounts for fuel in Rural areas but didnt find it. Anyway
the point I wanted to make was the last few times I have stayed with the in laws which is in a very rural area we have done many more miles but used far less fuel. At home I do home to work twice daily which is about 8 miles and local shopping school run etc. Whilst I was at the inlaws I was doing either a 60 mile round trips to the coast or a 30 mile round trips to relatives daily plus the shopping etc. Ive done my tax for the months and I used less fuel whilst away :0 Its all that 5th gear driving. Pff to rural discounts. 
Sex God
Fossil fuels are far too cheap
Sex God
Quote by tweeky
The price of diesel in rural filling stations is, on average, 4p more than in urban areas, a new survey has shown.
Funny I just looked for an old post on the subject of discounts for fuel in Rural areas but didnt find it. Anyway
the point I wanted to make was the last few times I have stayed with the in laws which is in a very rural area we have done many more miles but used far less fuel. At home I do home to work twice daily which is about 8 miles and local shopping school run etc. Whilst I was at the inlaws I was doing either a 60 mile round trips to the coast or a 30 mile round trips to relatives daily plus the shopping etc. Ive done my tax for the months and I used less fuel whilst away :0 Its all that 5th gear driving. Pff to rural discounts.I am not sure how you could get into 5 gear in rural areas?
Of course most vehicles are more fuel efficient on longer trips once in a high gear. Try some shorter trips down some real rural roads where 2nd and 3rd are required perhaps this may give a better picture
Sex God
Quote by Bluefish2009
The price of diesel in rural filling stations is, on average, 4p more than in urban areas, a new survey has shown.
Funny I just looked for an old post on the subject of discounts for fuel in Rural areas but didnt find it. Anyway
the point I wanted to make was the last few times I have stayed with the in laws which is in a very rural area we have done many more miles but used far less fuel. At home I do home to work twice daily which is about 8 miles and local shopping school run etc. Whilst I was at the inlaws I was doing either a 60 mile round trips to the coast or a 30 mile round trips to relatives daily plus the shopping etc. Ive done my tax for the months and I used less fuel whilst away :0 Its all that 5th gear driving. Pff to rural discounts.I am not sure how you could get into 5 gear in rural areas?
Of course most vehicles are more fuel efficient on longer trips once in a high gear. Try some shorter trips down some real rural roads where 2nd and 3rd are required perhaps this may give a better picture
Ive worked in and travelled to much of the country from northern Scotland to the south of England and west Wales. In my experiences there are not many areas where you are driving anything more than 20% of the time in windy little roads. You cant get any more rural than where my Mother in law lives the roadd is not even named yet it joins with lots of small but long roads where the traffic does 50-60 all the way to the next town.
Rural fuel reduction big mistake. Perhaps it should be based on people who only live near bendy roads with no A roads in sight :lol: . In my experiences those places are few and far between. This is the UK after all where if two things exists someone builds a relatively straight road between them.
Sex God
Quote by tweeky
The price of diesel in rural filling stations is, on average, 4p more than in urban areas, a new survey has shown.
Funny I just looked for an old post on the subject of discounts for fuel in Rural areas but didnt find it. Anyway
the point I wanted to make was the last few times I have stayed with the in laws which is in a very rural area we have done many more miles but used far less fuel. At home I do home to work twice daily which is about 8 miles and local shopping school run etc. Whilst I was at the inlaws I was doing either a 60 mile round trips to the coast or a 30 mile round trips to relatives daily plus the shopping etc. Ive done my tax for the months and I used less fuel whilst away :0 Its all that 5th gear driving. Pff to rural discounts.I am not sure how you could get into 5 gear in rural areas?
Of course most vehicles are more fuel efficient on longer trips once in a high gear. Try some shorter trips down some real rural roads where 2nd and 3rd are required perhaps this may give a better picture
Ive worked in and travelled to much of the country from northern Scotland to the south of England and west Wales. In my experiences there are not many areas where you are driving anything more than 20% of the time in windy little roads. You cant get any more rural than where my Mother in law lives the roadd is not even named yet it joins with lots of small but long roads where the traffic does 50-60 all the way to the next town.
Rural fuel reduction big mistake. Perhaps it should be based on people who only live near bendy roads with no A roads in sight :lol: . In my experiences those places are few and far between. This is the UK after all where if two things exists someone builds a relatively straight road between them.
My work involves travel also, in fact my bill for business fuel last financial year was just over £6'
I don't think I did say rural fuel reduction, if I did that was not my intention. What I would like to see at the very least is equality. I have seen many reports some as much as 5 or 6 pence a litre more in some rural areas. Below is one such article
THE Countryside Alliance selected 30 councils from those under the Government classification of 'very rural' and 30 from the classification 'major urban'.
They used a price comparison website and found the cheapest price for a litre of diesel in rural areas costs 4p more than the cheapest in urban areas.
Dylan Sharpe, media officer for the Alliance said: "In urban areas, the cheapest prices are around 130p, whereas in rural areas it's 144p.
"It may not sound like much, but a full tank can be £6 more."
Sex God
Sorry but if it cost's more to get the product there then it's naturally going to have to be priced higher....
A news article I saw said they pay 4p a litre more and there was a move to get them a reduction of 5p per litre...
So why all of a sudden should they pay less ?
A news article I saw said they pay 4p a litre more and there was a move to get them a reduction of 5p per litre...
So why all of a sudden should they pay less ?
