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I am sure that all of us are moved by what has happened in that country with the earthquake, but I have hesitated before sending any money - "everybody" has their hands out - PayPal, Smooth Radio, Red Cross, they are all competing against each other.
As best I am able, I support a few charities each year, including a childrens' hospice, but I do wonder if this sort of appeal is more properly for Governments to finance rather than individuals - especially as I suspect the operation will not be all that well run!.
Anyone have any strong views, please?
Plim :sad:
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Haiti - a case for charity?
Sex God
America forces have now taken over the airport and with it the control of aid landing and being disputed. So far aid has not gotten out to the people in need. It looks like that will not change in the near future. Sadly it looks like there will be a lot more death before aid starts to move in quantity.
For a nation that has made so much history, resent years have been a disaster.
Disasters are one thing I do give money to, but this time I am not sure it will get where it is needed.
Travis
For a nation that has made so much history, resent years have been a disaster.
Disasters are one thing I do give money to, but this time I am not sure it will get where it is needed.
Travis
A heart rending situation now happening.
I was so shocked to see such mass poverty and total despair.
I will give as millions of others will and I hope it eases their pain, but it won't ease their suffering.
Mother nature can be a powerful destructable force but money alone cannot stop all their problems.
Yes money and food and water will help save those still living but, we should worry about the long term stability of this country.
I still am shocked at such poverty on the doorstep of the richest and most powerful nation on the planet.
I hope that the money will make a difference, but at times human nature baffles me.
I hope the help reaches these people quickly and saves as many lives as possible.
I was so shocked to see such mass poverty and total despair.
I will give as millions of others will and I hope it eases their pain, but it won't ease their suffering.
Mother nature can be a powerful destructable force but money alone cannot stop all their problems.
Yes money and food and water will help save those still living but, we should worry about the long term stability of this country.
I still am shocked at such poverty on the doorstep of the richest and most powerful nation on the planet.
I hope that the money will make a difference, but at times human nature baffles me.
I hope the help reaches these people quickly and saves as many lives as possible.
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A heart rending situation now happening.
I was so shocked to see such mass poverty and total despair.
I will give as millions of others will and I hope it eases their pain, but it won't ease their suffering.
Mother nature can be a powerful destructable force but money alone cannot stop all their problems.
Yes money and food and water will help save those still living but, we should worry about the long term stability of this country.
I still am shocked at such poverty on the doorstep of the richest and most powerful nation on the planet.
I hope that the money will make a difference, but at times human nature baffles me.
I hope the help reaches these people quickly and saves as many lives as possible.
Be assured that your monetary contribution will reach the pockets of those least affected by the earthquake in double quick time....
Me a cynic? nah...
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A heart rending situation now happening.
I was so shocked to see such mass poverty and total despair.
I will give as millions of others will and I hope it eases their pain, but it won't ease their suffering.
Mother nature can be a powerful destructable force but money alone cannot stop all their problems.
Yes money and food and water will help save those still living but, we should worry about the long term stability of this country.
I still am shocked at such poverty on the doorstep of the richest and most powerful nation on the planet.
I hope that the money will make a difference, but at times human nature baffles me.
I hope the help reaches these people quickly and saves as many lives as possible.
Be assured that your monetary contribution will reach the pockets of those least affected by the earthquake in double quick time....
Me a cynic? nah...
Hey thats not fair,i hear that all the money will be used to rebuild the country,starting with the Presidential Palace of course...anything left over (only the finest marble from Italy will do) will be put into off shore accounts for a rainy day!
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A heart rending situation now happening.
I was so shocked to see such mass poverty and total despair.
I will give as millions of others will and I hope it eases their pain, but it won't ease their suffering.
Mother nature can be a powerful destructable force but money alone cannot stop all their problems.
Yes money and food and water will help save those still living but, we should worry about the long term stability of this country.
I still am shocked at such poverty on the doorstep of the richest and most powerful nation on the planet.
I hope that the money will make a difference, but at times human nature baffles me.
I hope the help reaches these people quickly and saves as many lives as possible.
Be assured that your monetary contribution will reach the pockets of those least affected by the earthquake in double quick time....
Me a cynic? nah...
Hey thats not fair,i hear that all the money will be used to rebuild the country,starting with the Presidential Palace of course...anything left over (only the finest marble from Italy will do) will be put into off shore accounts for a rainy day!
and they have precious few of those
We mustn't allow ourselves to become desensitised by the amount of natural disasters, this is a tragedy just like 2004 Tsunami and Hurricane Katrina. I had a small glimpse of how equipped we are here, should the forces of unexpected extreme weather strike. In 1987 the tail end of a hurricane caused absolute havoc here in Brighton and other parts of the south. Recently the whole country ground to a halt and people post their lives just because it snowed.
So just imagine what it will be like when it is eventually our turn. Not funny is it?
So just imagine what it will be like when it is eventually our turn. Not funny is it?
I hope to be a bit more optimistic about this.
Many " charities " especially African ones, tend to see money raised not go to where it was intended. Government armies tend to take supplies and money raised, and the real sufferers never see anything.
But I hope this can be a different case.
No point in saying about Palaces and money not getting there, so why bother?
If everyone took that attitude many more people in disasters such as this, and other things would suffer much more than they would otherwise.
Try and be a bit more positive eh?
Many " charities " especially African ones, tend to see money raised not go to where it was intended. Government armies tend to take supplies and money raised, and the real sufferers never see anything.
But I hope this can be a different case.
No point in saying about Palaces and money not getting there, so why bother?
If everyone took that attitude many more people in disasters such as this, and other things would suffer much more than they would otherwise.
Try and be a bit more positive eh?
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Ouch, that is going to upset someone!
And in any case if it isn't a European country why should Europeans rule? On the flip side I wonder how many Zimbabweans regret booting the Brits out in favour of Mugabe..
None of this is relevant, there has been a tragedy that has destroyed the life of those who survived, it wasn't their fault, so why not bung em a few quid?
Sex God
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Oh dear - not sure what happened here?
Anyway, thank you to all those who have contributed to this thread. Interesting how some posters brought in the problems with UK authorities dealing with the snow as an organisation parallel
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Someone told me today (and I haven't had a chance to check the facts, so forgive me if I am inaccurate) that in the tsunami in 2004, around 230,000 people died in about 11 countries.
200,000+ are feared dead in Haiti.
Dunno... that just put it into sharp context for me.
200,000+ are feared dead in Haiti.
Dunno... that just put it into sharp context for me.
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Interesting how some posters brought in the problems with UK authorities dealing with the snow as an organisation parallel
I didn't mean to detract from the tragedy by drawing a parallel with our recent weather "problems". The point I was trying to make is that here in the UK we have yet to suffer such a tragedy. The way the world is changing it is bound to be in our future, so WTF are we going to do when we can't even deal with a little snow?
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How many Muslim countrys are contributing to the Haiti relief effort?
I don't quite understand the relevance of the question, or why this seems to be such an issue for some, but I've asked the internets for you, and seems like quite a few?
N x x x ;)
the americans have now 16,000 plus troops in place in haiti, total control of the airport, airspace and air traffic control, and total control of sea surrounding haiti. they are holding up relief and medical aid from landing and distribution from the airport, and next to control and restrict any land route with their troops as well as to suppress any uprising or rioting of people becoming more desperate by the day. their purpose is total control of the economy and privatisation of all the infrastructure and using the force of military and conditional aid. well established formula emanating from the "chicago school" and milton friedmans philosophy of "shock therapy". they will probably get away with it but they certainly will be seen to have done it.
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the americans have now 16,000 plus troops in place in haiti, total control of the airport, airspace and air traffic control, and total control of sea surrounding haiti. they are holding up relief and medical aid from landing and distribution from the airport, and next to control and restrict any land route with their troops as well as to suppress any uprising or rioting of people becoming more desperate by the day. their purpose is total control of the economy and privatisation of all the infrastructure and using the force of military and conditional aid. well established formula emanating from the "chicago school" and milton friedmans philosophy of "shock therapy". they will probably get away with it but they certainly will be seen to have done it.
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At first that seems a bit harsh, but I must confess I'm coming round to thinking just a bit that way - I became a little suspicious when a couple of days in, their spokesman said they wouldn't parachute in water because it would cause a riot with people fighting for it. Well, why couldn't they parachute troops in to keep the peace and then the water an hour or so later for the trops to give out once they had the queues formed?
Also, I cannot help think of all these other international situations, mainly wars of course, that the Americans become involved in - never a happy state of affairs.
Plim :sad:
That's the good old USA for you, not the people the govt. They screwed us after WW2 and have screwed umpteen other countries since. With us they just waited till we had borrowed all their old War 1 hardware before entering WW2 then crippled us with the repayments. Of course nowadays they are naming sure that all other nations conform to world democracy (capitalist greed), Haiti will recove but will end up firmly on America's back pocket.
