Honorary knighthood for IRA supporter !!!

9 Mar 2009

Quote by neilinleeds
Kent, Republican does not necessarily mean IRA terrorist does it? It's perfectly possible to believe in the political aims of Irish Nationalism, and yet be a staunch opponent of paramilitary violence. Confusing the two is a favoured tactic of those who would try and tar all nationalists with the same brush, and does a disservice to those who have fought for nationalist aims using only democratic means while simultaneously fighting the violence within their own communities.
Neil x x x ;)

I think the two go hand in hand.
The IRA used violence to try and gain its political aims. I believe Republicans are sympathetic to the IRA, and all its uses of trying to force the British Governments hands.
I bet there were very few Republicans, who were sympathetic when the Brighton bombing happenened. I bet there were very few who thought that to bomb the top politicians of the Tory party, including and mainly because of, Thatcher,were sympathetic to those injured.
The Irish issue is a complex one as we all know. I just hope that the deaths of those two soldiers, does not bring a return to the bad old days of Northern Ireland. But I feel that because of the religious feelings there, it is only a very small step away, from happening all over again.

9 Mar 2009

Quote by jumptoit
The cause of all wars in my opinion are religion and governments

I will accept the "governments" part, but not religion, I may be wrong, and please, correct me if I am, but wasn't the Falklands war territorial?

9 Mar 2009

Quote by kentswingers777
Kent, Republican does not necessarily mean IRA terrorist does it? It's perfectly possible to believe in the political aims of Irish Nationalism, and yet be a staunch opponent of paramilitary violence. Confusing the two is a favoured tactic of those who would try and tar all nationalists with the same brush, and does a disservice to those who have fought for nationalist aims using only democratic means while simultaneously fighting the violence within their own communities.
Neil x x x ;)

I think the two go hand in hand.
The IRA used violence to try and gain its political aims. I believe Republicans are sympathetic to the IRA, and all its uses of trying to force the British Governments hands.
I bet there were very few Republicans, who were sympathetic when the Brighton bombing happenened. I bet there were very few who thought that to bomb the top politicians of the Tory party, including and mainly because of, Thatcher,were sympathetic to those injured.
The Irish issue is a complex one as we all know. I just hope that the deaths of those two soldiers, does not bring a return to the bad old days of Northern Ireland. But I feel that because of the religious feelings there, it is only a very small step away, from happening all over again.
well i didn't lose any sleep over that one!

9 Mar 2009

Quote by essex34m
The cause of all wars in my opinion are religion and governments

I will accept the "governments" part, but not religion, I may be wrong, and please, correct me if I am, but wasn't the Falklands war territorial?The Falklands war was about an easy victory to prop up an Argentinian Government. Politics.
....but if you can get religion in on your side it makes the killing more justified!

9 Mar 2009

Quote by Mr-Powers
Kent, Republican does not necessarily mean IRA terrorist does it? It's perfectly possible to believe in the political aims of Irish Nationalism, and yet be a staunch opponent of paramilitary violence. Confusing the two is a favoured tactic of those who would try and tar all nationalists with the same brush, and does a disservice to those who have fought for nationalist aims using only democratic means while simultaneously fighting the violence within their own communities.
Neil x x x ;)

I think the two go hand in hand.
The IRA used violence to try and gain its political aims. I believe Republicans are sympathetic to the IRA, and all its uses of trying to force the British Governments hands.
I bet there were very few Republicans, who were sympathetic when the Brighton bombing happenened. I bet there were very few who thought that to bomb the top politicians of the Tory party, including and mainly because of, Thatcher,were sympathetic to those injured.
The Irish issue is a complex one as we all know. I just hope that the deaths of those two soldiers, does not bring a return to the bad old days of Northern Ireland. But I feel that because of the religious feelings there, it is only a very small step away, from happening all over again.
well i didn't lose any sleep over that one!
Well well....... I wondered how long it would take you to appear. :shock:
I thought we was talking about Republicans? Or are YOU one? If not a typical example of Mr Powers being well........Mr Powers I suppose.

9 Mar 2009

Quote by essex34m
The cause of all wars in my opinion are religion and governments

I will accept the "governments" part, but not religion, I may be wrong, and please, correct me if I am, but wasn't the Falklands war territorial?
Mostly, the wars in the middle east are of religious (and therefore territorial) origin. The two aspects cannot be separated easily in my view.
NI is religious (Catholic/Protestant) and is territorial in that the Catholics want to see one Ireland but the Protestants, British subjects, wish to remain under British rule (if I understand this complex subject correctly).
But the religion/territory duplex is not always the case.
The Falklands war was purely territorial as Essex says. A British protectorate was illegally invaded by a military Junta which laid claim to the territory.
Without examining the rights or wrongs of the Argentinian claim to the territory, the British Government had little alternative but to defend its sovereign rights and the freedom of its people.
What would we do if Spain were to invade Gibraltar? There is no religious aspect to Spain's claim to the territory unlike the position in NI (except that both Spain and Ireland are essentially Catholic countries) but in both cases, there are deep underlying feelings about returning the lands to the "original" owners, as it were. Gibraltarians wish to retain British Sovereignty as do the people of NI.

9 Mar 2009

Quote by kentswingers777
Kent, Republican does not necessarily mean IRA terrorist does it? It's perfectly possible to believe in the political aims of Irish Nationalism, and yet be a staunch opponent of paramilitary violence. Confusing the two is a favoured tactic of those who would try and tar all nationalists with the same brush, and does a disservice to those who have fought for nationalist aims using only democratic means while simultaneously fighting the violence within their own communities.
Neil x x x ;)

I think the two go hand in hand.
The IRA used violence to try and gain its political aims. I believe Republicans are sympathetic to the IRA, and all its uses of trying to force the British Governments hands.
I bet there were very few Republicans, who were sympathetic when the Brighton bombing happenened. I bet there were very few who thought that to bomb the top politicians of the Tory party, including and mainly because of, Thatcher,were sympathetic to those injured.
The Irish issue is a complex one as we all know. I just hope that the deaths of those two soldiers, does not bring a return to the bad old days of Northern Ireland. But I feel that because of the religious feelings there, it is only a very small step away, from happening all over again.
well i didn't lose any sleep over that one!
Well well....... I wondered how long it would take you to appear. :shock:
I thought we was talking about Republicans? Or are YOU one? If not a typical example of Mr Powers being well........Mr Powers I suppose.
what would you expect...you used a poor example,to get my sympathy and understanding.

9 Mar 2009

Quote by Mr-Powers
Kent, Republican does not necessarily mean IRA terrorist does it? It's perfectly possible to believe in the political aims of Irish Nationalism, and yet be a staunch opponent of paramilitary violence. Confusing the two is a favoured tactic of those who would try and tar all nationalists with the same brush, and does a disservice to those who have fought for nationalist aims using only democratic means while simultaneously fighting the violence within their own communities.
Neil x x x ;)

I think the two go hand in hand.
The IRA used violence to try and gain its political aims. I believe Republicans are sympathetic to the IRA, and all its uses of trying to force the British Governments hands.
I bet there were very few Republicans, who were sympathetic when the Brighton bombing happenened. I bet there were very few who thought that to bomb the top politicians of the Tory party, including and mainly because of, Thatcher,were sympathetic to those injured.
The Irish issue is a complex one as we all know. I just hope that the deaths of those two soldiers, does not bring a return to the bad old days of Northern Ireland. But I feel that because of the religious feelings there, it is only a very small step away, from happening all over again.
well i didn't lose any sleep over that one!
Well well....... I wondered how long it would take you to appear. :shock:
I thought we was talking about Republicans? Or are YOU one? If not a typical example of Mr Powers being well........Mr Powers I suppose.
what would you expect...you used a poor example,to get my sympathy and understanding.
From you Sir? Not a lot really with comments like that. But heyho.....all good things come to those that wait. wink

9 Mar 2009

Quote by kentswingers777
Kent, Republican does not necessarily mean IRA terrorist does it? It's perfectly possible to believe in the political aims of Irish Nationalism, and yet be a staunch opponent of paramilitary violence. Confusing the two is a favoured tactic of those who would try and tar all nationalists with the same brush, and does a disservice to those who have fought for nationalist aims using only democratic means while simultaneously fighting the violence within their own communities.
Neil x x x ;)

I think the two go hand in hand.
The IRA used violence to try and gain its political aims. I believe Republicans are sympathetic to the IRA, and all its uses of trying to force the British Governments hands.
I bet there were very few Republicans, who were sympathetic when the Brighton bombing happenened. I bet there were very few who thought that to bomb the top politicians of the Tory party, including and mainly because of, Thatcher,were sympathetic to those injured.
The Irish issue is a complex one as we all know. I just hope that the deaths of those two soldiers, does not bring a return to the bad old days of Northern Ireland. But I feel that because of the religious feelings there, it is only a very small step away, from happening all over again.
well i didn't lose any sleep over that one!
Well well....... I wondered how long it would take you to appear. :shock:
I thought we was talking about Republicans? Or are YOU one? If not a typical example of Mr Powers being well........Mr Powers I suppose.
what would you expect...you used a poor example,to get my sympathy and understanding.
From you Sir? Not a lot really with comments like that. But heyho.....all good things come to those that wait. wink

tell me,did you see miners crying in the streets when they heard the terrible news about the bombing in Brighton?
Or maybe parents or wives of service men who died in the Falklands...i don't think so!
so are they all republic sympathisers?

9 Mar 2009

No.....just unsympathetic tossers. Remember Mrs Tebbit? I wonder how those same people would have felt, had that of been their Mother. I digress on this topic Sir!

9 Mar 2009

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
This is getting sick...you lot ought to be ashamed of yourselves
Maybe some will get the message that this site is predominantly for Swingers to have enjoyment and share a common bond....
Threads like this are destructive to the general morale of this place and deserve to be kept in the domain of political and media sites ( like the comment section of the site the article gets linked from.
tell me if im wrong!!!!

9 Mar 2009

Quote by DeeCee
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
This is getting sick...you lot ought to be ashamed of yourselves
Maybe some will get the message that this site is predominantly for Swingers to have enjoyment and share a common bond....
Threads like this are destructive to the general morale of this place and deserve to be kept in the domain of political and media sites ( like the comment section of the site the article gets linked from.
tell me if im wrong!!!!

no your absolutely right...

9 Mar 2009

thanx...
next!!! wink

9 Mar 2009

Well the last time I looked this WAS forum.
I will not bother telling people excatly what that word means.
I will let you Google it.

9 Mar 2009

Quote by kentswingers777
Well the last time I looked this WAS forum.
I will not bother telling people excatly what that word means.
I will let you Google it.

yes your right...its a forum
shame we seem to have lost our direction as to what this site really should be about.

9 Mar 2009

Quote by Mr-Powers
Well the last time I looked this WAS forum.
I will not bother telling people excatly what that word means.
I will let you Google it.

yes your right...its a forum
shame we seem to have lost our direction as to what this site really should be about.
Sex? dunno

*looks for knitting needles* wink

9 Mar 2009

Quote by kentswingers777
Well the last time I looked this WAS forum.
I will not bother telling people excatly what that word means.
I will let you Google it.

i dont need to google it Mr Garnett... sorry Kentswingers!!!
It might be a forum, but that doesnt mean to say that that you are using it correctly/
nor do i think your childish petulance is any way to justify the annoyance you cause other members.
It clearly says that it is a "cafe" for " general chit chat" etc etc not an extension of the Gaunt Show, The Sun, The mail.... etc...etcs, comment section. Which is more suited to the sort of debate that youre having than a forum frequented by people who log in to quench their desire/interest in swinging as opposed to politics.
If you honestly think that more than 10 members appreciate your thread content then you are in dream world.
If im the only person with bollox enough to say it.... then so be it...
but I know that many members share my view.

9 Mar 2009

I thought this site was an "Adult" run community,for adults to meet and get to know each other?
This forum section is The Cafe and not Lets Meet Up or Dogging, now call me silly but i dont think this section of the forum would last very long if we were just to chat about "Cafes" as the title would suggest,so assume that this is a general views forum about anything and everything we want to chat about or debate as "Adults" and get to know each other, where as the dogging and lets meet up, the ad sections and the chatrooms are used for sex related items?
Now has anyone been to Bettys for tea and scones lately?

9 Mar 2009

Quote by jumptoit
Now has anyone been to Bettys for tea and scones lately?

No, we had finger food, drink and played trivial pursuit lol

9 Mar 2009

Quote by DeeCee
Well the last time I looked this WAS forum.
I will not bother telling people excatly what that word means.
I will let you Google it.

i dont need to google it Mr Garnett... sorry Kentswingers!!!
It might be a forum, but that doesnt mean to say that that you are using it correctly/
nor do i think your childish petulance is any way to justify the annoyance you cause other members.
It clearly says that it is a "cafe" for " general chit chat" etc etc not an extension of the Gaunt Show, The Sun, The mail.... etc...etcs, comment section. Which is more suited to the sort of debate that youre having than a forum frequented by people who log in to quench their desire/interest in swinging as opposed to politics.
If you honestly think that more than 10 members appreciate your thread content then you are in dream world.
If im the only person with bollox enough to say it.... then so be it...
but I know that many members share my view.
your not the only going to say it...Kent...give it a rest for a change,let people have their say without you jumping on them for "god for bid it" disagreeing with you or your continual links to the Sun webpage...i really think you do it just to get people on here to argue with you!

9 Mar 2009

Quote by Mr-Powers
i really think you do it just to get people on here to argue with you!

No flies on you are there sunshine?

9 Mar 2009

Oh Essex you deviant you..... finger food and board games well i never.
Now back to Bettys they do a lovely meringue thingy with fresh cream, strawberrys and chocolate shavings oh its divine you really should try it.....

9 Mar 2009

Quote by Mr-Powers
Well the last time I looked this WAS forum.
I will not bother telling people excatly what that word means.
I will let you Google it.

yes your right...its a forum
shame we seem to have lost our direction as to what this site really should be about.
Pray educate us Mr-Powers...
If the content was inappropriate or unwelcome by the owners, I'm sure the Moderators would deal with it appropriately confused

9 Mar 2009

Quote by essex34m
i really think you do it just to get people on here to argue with you!

No flies on you are there sunshine?
thats because my shit doesn't stink wink

but seriously though,this constant point scoring is dulling this place!

9 Mar 2009

Quote by jumptoit
Oh Essex you deviant you

Thats one of the nicest things ever said to me, thank you, it truly means a lot.
And I'm being serious smile

9 Mar 2009

Quote by GnV
Well the last time I looked this WAS forum.
I will not bother telling people excatly what that word means.
I will let you Google it.

yes your right...its a forum
shame we seem to have lost our direction as to what this site really should be about.
Prey educate us Mr-Powers...
If the content was inappropriate or unwelcome by the owners, I'm sure the Moderators would deal with it appropriately confused

not if it within the AUP...still if i wanted to hear some of the shit that goes on here...i'd pop over to Gumtree.

9 Mar 2009

Quote by GnV
If the content was inappropriate or unwelcome by the owners, I'm sure the Moderators would deal with it appropriately

i wouldnt be tooooo sure of that !!!!
perhaps they are ambivalent...
or similar to the government who time and time again are slated for "not doing enough".
Does it not bother you or kent that other member are fed up!!!
or doesnt it matter because the "government" arent doing anything about it?

9 Mar 2009

Mr Powers where is this gumtree???? does it do nice buns.
Oh Essex i am sure its not, however you could easily open your own cafe with the buns you have on show.

9 Mar 2009

Actually Mr-Powers, that was really a request..
"Pray educate us ... as to what this site really should be about."

9 Mar 2009

Quote by DeeCee

If the content was inappropriate or unwelcome by the owners, I'm sure the Moderators would deal with it appropriately

i wouldnt be tooooo sure of that !!!!
perhaps they are ambivalent...
or similar to the government who time and time again are slated for "not doing enough".
Does it not bother you or kent that other member are fed up!!!
or doesnt it matter because the "government" arent doing anything about it?
I bow to your superior knowledge about that DeeCee..
you are clearly an expert in these matters :yawn:
Indeed, there are those who take the management of topics they don't like into their own hands in order to get it locked if the Moderators don't seem to accord with their own "take" on it :shock: