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Quote by Steve
And now they are set to receive legal aid to fight their cases in court
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How the heck did they get legal aid ffs?
People like this earning a minimum of 65 grand a year getting legal aid?
Now I know that corruption is almost everywhere.
Quote by kentswingers777
And now they are set to receive legal aid to fight their cases in court
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How the heck did they get legal aid ffs?
People like this earning a minimum of 65 grand a year getting legal aid?
Now I know that corruption is almost everywhere.
thier probably skint now the`ve had to pay it all back :violin:
Probably got it stashed away in some secret bank account....well we all know how dishonest they are.
They got legal aid because thats how the criminal court system works, it even says that if you glance at the article for 30 seconds. Bafflement bemusement and bluster is so easily caused by lack of knowledge.
I am gonna start a petition to parliament that ensures that all future legislation includes the caveat "unless this will cause outrage anmongst a tiny minority of people who purport to enjoy alternative sexual preferences".
Quote by flower411
To be honest I`d be more interested to know if they are using solicitors and barristers who don`t normally deal with legal aid cases.

probably the opposite answer to : are they guilty or not
the probability is you know the answer before you ask the question wink
It will not help their case in the eyes of most of the public, they have allegedly attempted to steal tax payers money and now use tax payers money to defend them selves
Quote by flower411
It will not help their case in the eyes of most of the public, they have allegedly attempted to steal tax payers money and now use tax payers money to defend them selves

Lucky for them that they don`t give a shit about the public then lol
What a sad state of affairs
Remember when Tony Blair swept into office, grandiosely proclaiming to drive sleaze from office. Well Tone, it looks like you jolly well failed to get your house in order.
Let's have a look at what these 3 are up in front of the beak for:
Jim Devine - submitted claims for £8700 using false invoices
Elliot Morley - claimed £16800 for a mortgage that had already been paid off
David Chaytor - claimed £13000 for a mortgage that had already been paid off
All allegedly of course.
It really makes you sick how these leaches can act in the manner they have, living off the tax payer for years and then expecting us to fund their defence having got caught with their hands well and truly in the till.
I really hope they (and the Tory who isn't claiming legal aid) get found guilty and sentenced to the full 7 year prison term. Chances of that happening - virtually nil.
Quote by swcpl2005
Remember when Tony Blair swept into office, grandiosely proclaiming to drive sleaze from office. Well Tone, it looks like you jolly well failed to get your house in order.
Let's have a look at what these 3 are up in front of the beak for:
Jim Devine - submitted claims for £8700 using false invoices
Elliot Morley - claimed £16800 for a mortgage that had already been paid off
David Chaytor - claimed £13000 for a mortgage that had already been paid off
All allegedly of course.
It really makes you sick how these leaches can act in the manner they have, living off the tax payer for years and then expecting us to fund their defence having got caught with their hands well and truly in the till.
I really hope they (and the Tory who isn't claiming legal aid) get found guilty and sentenced to the full 7 year prison term. Chances of that happening - virtually nil.

I would say it is less than nil.
It's a difficult one to call but I think I am right in saying that the legal aid is assist them in their claim for the right to exercise Parliamentary Privilege - a point of Law, not to assist them in their defence of the improper claim of expenses (although inextricably linked as it will decide in the end who has the right to "try" them).
Some may feel that there is little difference between the two - David Cameron clearly so in public - but nonetheless, it is about defending a perceived ancient and legal right and needs to be cleared up. That often involves the use of public funds.
Now identified, it's likely in the meantime that such PP will be legislated out in the next Parliament to avoid it as an issue for the future by whichever party comes into power.
The Statute Books are laden with such ancient rights which have never been repealed. If they exist in law, there is no reason not to exploit them despite how abhorrent others might feel about it.
Thanks to all those who have contributed to this thread. By the way, I don't know how these people can get Legal Aid on such high earnings, I suppose it must be on disposable income after these mortgages (that have been paid off lol )
Plim :sad: :sad:
Quote by GnV
It's a difficult one to call but I think I am right in saying that the legal aid is assist them in their claim for the right to exercise Parliamentary Privilege - a point of Law, not to assist them in their defence of the improper claim of expenses (although inextricably linked as it will decide in the end who has the right to "try" them).
Some may feel that there is little difference between the two - David Cameron clearly so in public - but nonetheless, it is about defending a perceived ancient and legal right and needs to be cleared up. That often involves the use of public funds.
Now identified, it's likely in the meantime that such PP will be legislated out in the next Parliament to avoid it as an issue for the future by whichever party comes into power.
The Statute Books are laden with such ancient rights which have never been repealed. If they exist in law, there is no reason not to exploit them despite how abhorrent others might feel about it.

I'll have to get a google search going, but I read a story how an MP in the 18th Century got away with a bang to rights offence as the accuser was challenged to trail by combat. Since the accused was an expert swords man, the accuser shit his pants and withdrew the claim. Parliament then changed the law about the trail by combat.
I do hope this is real and not one of those myths that I believe is true lol
Dave_Notts
Quote by Dave__Notts
It's a difficult one to call but I think I am right in saying that the legal aid is assist them in their claim for the right to exercise Parliamentary Privilege - a point of Law, not to assist them in their defence of the improper claim of expenses (although inextricably linked as it will decide in the end who has the right to "try" them).
Some may feel that there is little difference between the two - David Cameron clearly so in public - but nonetheless, it is about defending a perceived ancient and legal right and needs to be cleared up. That often involves the use of public funds.
Now identified, it's likely in the meantime that such PP will be legislated out in the next Parliament to avoid it as an issue for the future by whichever party comes into power.
The Statute Books are laden with such ancient rights which have never been repealed. If they exist in law, there is no reason not to exploit them despite how abhorrent others might feel about it.

I'll have to get a google search going, but I read a story how an MP in the 18th Century got away with a bang to rights offence as the accuser was challenged to trail by combat. Since the accused was an expert swords man, the accuser shit his pants and withdrew the claim. Parliament then changed the law about the trail by combat.
I do hope this is real and not one of those myths that I believe is true lol
Dave_Notts
he left his entrails dangling as he ran then dunno