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I may have to contact him regarding the laws on unions I'm sure Bertie would be more than happy to help :twisted:
i'm liking the fact that the cuts to save money may well cost us in the long run from unconvicted people running round the streets which will be free from cctv, after dna and other important data is removed from use! wohoooo lol
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boo i missread the title,i was hoping it might involve his wife :twisted:

:laughabove::laughabove:
Thanks you made me smile, that is the second thread I have opened and the second smile lol
*serious head*
Let's hope the idea lives up to it's promise,Labour enacted (or began the process of enacting) many ridiculous paranoid laws in the past few years , if only some of them are repealed it's still got to be a good thing
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*serious head*
Let's hope the idea lives up to it's promise,Labour enacted (or began the process of enacting) many ridiculous paranoid laws in the past few years , if only some of them are repealed it's still got to be a good thing

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Most of this looks quite good to me also
Theresa May offers police more powers in 'radical' deal;
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Most of this looks quite good to me also
Theresa May offers police more powers in 'radical' deal;

Now there's a dangerous thing..giving police more powers,only if they are made more accountable for their actions and then only with caution
i think clegg just went bang

im wondering how the one trick pony councils will raise further taxes
:doh::doh::doh:
Again can't disagree with Jeeves I've long been an advocate of replacing council tax with a local income tax
Lets hope that actions speak louder than words eh?
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Most of this looks quite good to me also
Theresa May offers police more powers in 'radical' deal;

Now there's a dangerous thing..giving police more powers,only if they are made more accountable for their actions and then only with caution
People who stay within the law have nothing to fear :giggle: think I read that some where here?
Like I said MOST, in fact it is the only part I dislike.
yes i await the arrival of double yellow lines in my drive :giveup:
Yeah and councils halving the size of my rubbish bin, so I can only get two baked bean tins and a box of dog biscuits in there, without it being full up, and then collected once a month, as opposed to once a week like it used to be.
dont worry folks, we are not about to get a constitution and bill of rights that we presently do not have, out of the hearts of the condems.
on the contrary, it is certain to be a big smokescreen for more repressive legislation.
by the way kenty, thatcherism, it would be more accurate to say monetarism, never left, so you dont need to bring it back. it never left.
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Most of this looks quite good to me also
Theresa May offers police more powers in 'radical' deal;

Now there's a dangerous thing..giving police more powers,only if they are made more accountable for their actions and then only with caution
People who stay within the law have nothing to fear :giggle: think I read that some where here?
Like I said MOST, in fact it is the only part I dislike.
I think there's at least one Brazilian family who might disagree with you
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Most of this looks quite good to me also
Theresa May offers police more powers in 'radical' deal;

Now there's a dangerous thing..giving police more powers,only if they are made more accountable for their actions and then only with caution
People who stay within the law have nothing to fear :giggle: think I read that some where here?
Like I said MOST, in fact it is the only part I dislike.
I think there's at least one Brazilian family who might disagree with you
I could not agree more :thumbup:
Are you saying that living near to a terrorist is not a good enough reason to be shot dead, several times dunno
You can see my thoughts on that here; http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/304347.html
the thing is that Jean Charles de Menezes was shot because procedure wasn't followed...making the police more autonomous would I strongly suspect make breakdowns in procedure far more common
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the thing is that Jean Charles de Menezes was shot because procedure wasn't followed...making the police more autonomous would I strongly suspect make breakdowns in procedure far more common

Agreed, but believe she is only returning powers they used to have for minor offences, SNIP; She confirmed that she intends to return charging decisions to the police for minor offences
And all the other points, in my view, are good! No?
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I'll have to wait and see.

Well we can all criticise some thing with the help of hindsight
I do not trust the police and I do not trust the torys' I'm being quite magnanimous in giving them the chance to prove me wrong lol
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the thing is that Jean Charles de Menezes was shot because procedure wasn't followed...making the police more autonomous would I strongly suspect make breakdowns in procedure far more common
jean charles de menezes was assassinated because he worked as a contract electrician on the london underground and saw something he should'nt have done related to the 7/7 bombings staggers and killing him was no procedural error.
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the thing is that Jean Charles de Menezes was shot because procedure wasn't followed...making the police more autonomous would I strongly suspect make breakdowns in procedure far more common
jean charles de menezes was assassinated because he worked as a contract electrician on the london underground and saw something he should'nt have done related to the 7/7 bombings staggers and killing him was no procedural error.
noooooooooooo not the new world order theory again banghead:banghead::banghead:
I'm not a great believer in conspiracies of any sort Gulson....but whichever is true it doesn't really change my argument..the key to any change in policing is accountability
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the thing is that Jean Charles de Menezes was shot because procedure wasn't followed...making the police more autonomous would I strongly suspect make breakdowns in procedure far more common
jean charles de menezes was assassinated because he worked as a contract electrician on the london underground and saw something he should'nt have done related to the 7/7 bombings staggers and killing him was no procedural error.
noooooooooooo not the new world order theory again banghead:banghead::banghead:mmmm, how strange. i do not subscribe to any theory about or related to a "new world order" i wonder where you got that idea from ? cant even make a connection. i will have to think harder.
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the thing is that Jean Charles de Menezes was shot because procedure wasn't followed...making the police more autonomous would I strongly suspect make breakdowns in procedure far more common
jean charles de menezes was assassinated because he worked as a contract electrician on the london underground and saw something he should'nt have done related to the 7/7 bombings staggers and killing him was no procedural error.
noooooooooooo not the new world order theory again banghead:banghead::banghead:mmmm, how strange. i do not subscribe to any theory about or related to a "new world order" i wonder where you got that idea from ? cant even make a connection. i will have to think harder.
I rarely discount any theory's.
The word conspiracy's is normally used by those who don't like the theory, to make it sound like those who pose the theory are trouble makers...Or that's my theory any way
in the public domain and well documented.
jean charles was a contract electrician, brazilian working in london.
the day after his murder, the metropolitan police public statement said a terrorist suspect had been followed, on a hot day, wearing a big jacket with wires hanging out of it and chased down a subway jumping over barriers and when cornered was shot in the belief he was going to set off a bomb as i recall.
at the public hearing, it was found that he did not have a big jacket on, that he did not jump barriers, that he was restrained by one officer on the tube and another fired 6 bullets into him and eye witnesses said he did not resist.
i, and his family call that murder not procedural error and i still cant see a connection with a new world order. i thought new world order was gordon brown's favourite saying.