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Quote by starlightcouple
It's not impossible, so stack the cards in your favour.

nothing is impossible but hardly unlikely. i will take the gamble on not bothering to stack up and save my money for fuel to get me to work. :thumbup:
Hardly unlikely = not likely :lol2: Double negatives see :small-print:
What I think mids was saying in addition, was that when or if a fuel strike or other unplanned event hits, he will be well prepared and won't have to waste fuel touring E13 trying to find scarce supplies.
But hey, he's a big boy (or so I'm led to believe) wink so he can answer that for himself.
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But hey, he's a big boy (or so I'm led to believe) wink so he can answer that for himself.

if he is that much of a big boy i will pass him over to mrs star. he wont be bothering about stocking up his supplies after an hour with mrs star rotflmao
So many people do not read what others say, I said I have foodstocks and supplies of materials for various reasons, it is cheaper to buy in bulk so I often use a cash and carry (still a member from the days when I had a guest house), BOGOF and other offers make stocking up a very good incentive and cost effective, times of need come for a variety of reasons some of which I stated, fuel strikes, exceptional weather, collapse of economies in Countries which supply goods to our supermarkets, panic buying by others when something does go in short supply (I remember the early 70s when you couldn't get sugar or toilet roll due to industrial action amongst many other daily products) I don't suggest everyone stocks up on a few essentials but I like to.
As for Nuclear War, I am actually on the 40-50 mile fringe of many "first strike targets" Manchester Airport, Telford (a major army supply depot) (Cosford a useable runway and airforce base) Stafford (ditto), Birmingham airport, the Oil refineries on the Welsh Coast, so fall out would be the biggest threat in the event of strike on mainland UK, however the thread is about a strike in Iran, again meaning fallout would be a problem not a direct hit on this area, as was the case with Belarus, Norway, Sweden and many other areas following the Chernobyl disaster.
Did you know that in Switzerland every building has to be built with a Nuclear Bunker beneath it, they must comply to current Swiss regulations with bombproof doors etc, public building are used for building emergency shelters or emergency hospitals, barracks etc but all private houses have to have thier Nuclear Bunker sorted before the rest of the building is constructed, The Company I worked for a few years ago in Verbier were fined for removing one of the bombproof doors in thier cellar/bunker.
I am sorry fella but it sounds a wee bit bonkers to me but hey ho when I am bein contaminated you will get the last laff I spose.
mids i do not mean to sound like i am mocking you in anyway but, i thought i would make you aware of something.
if a nuclear bomb was dropped onto the centre of the uk, those stocks that you have saved up for will not mean a thing, you will not be here to enjoy them. what kind of bomb would you think another country would drop on us dunno
study the utter devastation on hiroshima. then times that devastation by a 100 at leest and that is what you are dealing with. i am sorry but what you are doing is the same as someone stocking piling petrol on the off chance that one day they make take there test, and then one day actually buying a car. at 75 that person may just be a bit to long in the tooth to start.
if a person was stocking up on tinned food as lorry drivers were going on national strike, or there was three months worth of very heavy snow forecast i would say what you are doing is sensible. but sorry what you are doing to me is not sensible but as ben would say " a wee bit bonkers " i would say slightly without any foundation and complete bonkersness. still mids it takes all sorts. :bounce:
still send me a pm of your address and if i were to survive and you not, at leest i would know where to go for my dinner wink
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So many people do not read what others say, I said I have foodstocks and supplies of materials for various reasons, it is cheaper to buy in bulk so I often use a cash and carry (still a member from the days when I had a guest house), BOGOF and other offers make stocking up a very good incentive and cost effective, times of need come for a variety of reasons some of which I stated, fuel strikes, exceptional weather, collapse of economies in Countries which supply goods to our supermarkets, panic buying by others when something does go in short supply (I remember the early 70s when you couldn't get sugar or toilet roll due to industrial action amongst many other daily products) I don't suggest everyone stocks up on a few essentials but I like to.

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f a nuclear bomb was dropped onto the centre of the uk, those stocks that you have saved up for will not mean a thing, you will not be here to enjoy them. what kind of bomb would you think another country would drop on us

innocent
Nuclear bomb dropping is not the only reason why goods go in short supply, it never has been and with increasing anomalies of weather there are more good reasons for having "a little in reserve".
A couple of Christmas's ago I came to the rescue of a swingers club who with only 2 hours notice realised they hadn't ordered the buffet for the evening, in that 2 hours I used stock to supply a buffet for over 200 people, most of whom thought it was better than the usual one supplied, probably true but it cost more than they usually allocated as a budget but did not mind as they put thier members before the cost that night.
It is nice when you get those "ooh I just fancy some ...... urges" day or night I usually have some of it somewhere smile
If there is a sudden shortage of fuel (unrest in the middle east, long term strikes etc) I have things to keep me going even when the stores cannot get deliveries, in severe weather I don't have to worry about getting to the shops, French farmers blockading UK Ports, financial collapse of some countries economies, I save money, seems like a harmless bit of forward planning to me.
Aye it would be a funny old world if we were all the same.
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Aye it would be a funny old world if we were all the same.

now aint that the truth ben lol
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Nuclear bomb dropping is not the only reason why goods go in short supply, it never has been and with increasing anomalies of weather there are more good reasons for having "a little in reserve".

and the topic of the thread is ? rolleyes
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A couple of Christmas's ago I came to the rescue of a swingers club who with only 2 hours notice realised they hadn't ordered the buffet for the evening, in that 2 hours I used stock to supply a buffet for over 200 people, most of whom thought it was better than the usual one supplied, probably true but it cost more than they usually allocated as a budget but did not mind as they put thier members before the cost that night.

a bit of tinned ham and a few packets of dry nuts mids i am sure is a lot better than some of the food served at swingers clubs rotflmao
Quote by MidsCouple24
It is nice when you get those "ooh I just fancy some ...... urges" day or night I usually have some of it somewhere smile

our kitchen cupboards and our fridge are usually stocked with things that ether one of us would quench our hunger dont need a supermarket in me cellar lol
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If there is a sudden shortage of fuel (unrest in the middle east, long term strikes etc) I have things to keep me going even when the stores cannot get deliveries, in severe weather I don't have to worry about getting to the shops, French farmers blockading UK Ports, financial collapse of some countries economies, I save money, seems like a harmless bit of forward planning to me.

i got it mids your...

:giggle:innocent
giggles perhaps old enough to be him lol but have to be honest, I couldn't single handed beat the Vietnamese or Agfhan armies, it would take at least 2 British soldiers wink
Quote by MidsCouple24
giggles perhaps old enough to be him lol but have to be honest, I couldn't single handed beat the Vietnamese or Agfhan armies, it would take at least 2 British soldiers wink

:thumbup::thumbup:
i love your sense of humor mids
Dunno about rambo, I was thinking of this guy:

Your cellar full of food wont help when the graboids turn into ass-blasters!
i would think that a dirty bomb would be a far more realistic nuclear attack than a full on nuclear missile attack blink
ooooo we like dirty :rascal:
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i would think that a dirty bomb would be a far more realistic nuclear attack than a full on nuclear missile attack blink

That depends on the aim of your attack, in this instance Israel does not want to attack Iran, it's people in general or it's infrastructure, it has stated that it simply wants to destroy thier ability to develop nuclear weapons of thier own, so the attack will be on that facility, deep underground in the desert, they could hit it with conventional bombs(bunker busters) but this is estitmated to require at least 7 direct hits on a target the size of a house, bunker busters are not smart weapons and accuracy to that degree is extremely difficult, Iran has an impressive Airforce trained by the RAF at Farnborough and an extensive anti air missile system making this option extremely risky both for pilots and for the chances of getting the job done.
These are what some news site are saying about the current situation
Azerbaijan had granted Israel use of some airbases for an Israeli attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities—thereby helping Israel solve problems of refueling its planes and making an attack much more feasible.
Azerbaijan is a small, mostly Shiite Muslim country on Iran’s northern border. It has long been concerned about Iran’s treatment of the ethnic Azeri population living there. Azerbaijan is also one of the few Muslim countries having close economic and strategic ties with Israel.

BBC News - Israel's PM Benjamin Netanyahu has warned he will not countenance a long delay in launching an attack on Iran's nuclear sites.
He told Israel's Channel 2 station he did not have a stopwatch, but added: "This is not a matter of days or weeks. It is also not a matter of years."
He said the threat of Iranian nuclear weapons had to be removed.
Mr Netanyahu has just returned from the US, where President Barack Obama said there was still time for diplomacy.
Iran insists its nuclear programme is for purely peaceful purposes but many Western nations and Israel fear it is making weapons.

Gas Prices Could Double
According to U.S. government estimates, about 20 percent of the oil traded worldwide passes through the Persian Gulf, bordered by Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states. If Israel were to bomb Iran, oil prices would immediately go up. If Iran responded by attacking oil tankers going through the Persian Gulf, says Clarke, gasoline prices for U.S. consumers could double.
"You could see very quickly Iranian commandos and their small boats attacking tankers, attacking oil platforms," said Clarke. "You could see mines being laid in the Gulf."

Jed might have to use some of his food stocks (Reuters) lol
Quote by MidsCouple24
i would think that a dirty bomb would be a far more realistic nuclear attack than a full on nuclear missile attack blink

That depends on the aim of your attack, in this instance Israel does not want to attack Iran, it's people in general or it's infrastructure, it has stated that it simply wants to destroy thier ability to develop nuclear weapons of thier own, so the attack will be on that facility, deep underground in the desert, they could hit it with conventional bombs(bunker busters) but this is estitmated to require at least 7 direct hits on a target the size of a house, bunker busters are not smart weapons and accuracy to that degree is extremely difficult, Iran has an impressive Airforce trained by the RAF at Farnborough and an extensive anti air missile system making this option extremely risky both for pilots and for the chances of getting the job done.
surely though mids, if you are aware of where there underground bunkers are, or you know they are building them there, then surely iran would have other facilities? such as in built up areas around say Tehran?
for we in the west can surely remember that these muslim states do like to use humans as there shields when the going gets tough. also they are a bit partial to taking hostages from the west.
so if those things were to happen what would you suggest then mids. let us speculate that they have underground bunkers in the center of Tehran would israel still attack? for me this is more than possible as iran i am sure will think that just like with iraq and afghanistan, that the west is likely to attack them at some stage. if that happens let us hope and prey here in the west that they do not have nuclear capabilities for i am sure they will use them at the first sign of an attack by either israel or the uk or the usa.
According to popular world opinion the bunkers that Israel want to take out are only those located in remote desert places, these house Irans Nuclear projects, the alledged building of nuclear missiles, Heavy water, plutonium storage facilities etc. Your right Iran will have many military bunkers and probably in populated areas but Israel is only (at the moment) planning to take out the nuclear facilities, they may still do this with conventional weapons if they think they can achieve thier objective but what can you say when a Nation like Iran says it is going to wipe out your own Nation at it's first available opportunity, I suppose it is hardly surprising that Israel is planning a pre-emptive strike.
Of course the rest of the world is trying to negotiate with both sides to prevent this happening but I really cannot see Iran giving up it's plans to become a nuclear power.
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According to popular world opinion the bunkers that Israel want to take out are only those located in remote desert places, these house Irans Nuclear projects, the alledged building of nuclear missiles, Heavy water, plutonium storage facilities etc. Your right Iran will have many military bunkers and probably in populated areas but Israel is only (at the moment) planning to take out the nuclear facilities, they may still do this with conventional weapons if they think they can achieve thier objective but what can you say when a Nation like Iran says it is going to wipe out your own Nation at it's first available opportunity, I suppose it is hardly surprising that Israel is planning a pre-emptive strike.

when you say world opinion mids, who are you talking about. have you got any links to support this " world opinion ", or is this opinion based on what the americans believe?
show me some links mids and then peeple on here can make there own minds up as to the validity of your claim.
Quote by MidsCouple24
Of course the rest of the world is trying to negotiate with both sides to prevent this happening but I really cannot see Iran giving up it's plans to become a nuclear power.

the rest of the world is exactly who mids?
no iran will not give up its right to become a nuclear power. why is it that the super powers who btw do have nuclear power, think they are the worlds police as in who they deem can have that nuclear power? for me i am just as worried about pakistan and they do have nuclear power. this same country who was hiding the worlds most wanted man in bin bag laden. the man who destroyed the twin towers in america heartlands. still pakistan harboured this man. I as i say am just as worried about this other unstable land that is pakistan.

just ask any questions you have on there as there are tons of pages, by world opinion I meant the self styled experts and the accepted experts on Middle Eastern affairs, who know a lot more about the current situation than I do. lol
Quote by starlightcouple
According to popular world opinion the bunkers that Israel want to take out are only those located in remote desert places, these house Irans Nuclear projects, the alledged building of nuclear missiles, Heavy water, plutonium storage facilities etc. Your right Iran will have many military bunkers and probably in populated areas but Israel is only (at the moment) planning to take out the nuclear facilities, they may still do this with conventional weapons if they think they can achieve thier objective but what can you say when a Nation like Iran says it is going to wipe out your own Nation at it's first available opportunity, I suppose it is hardly surprising that Israel is planning a pre-emptive strike.

when you say world opinion mids, who are you talking about. have you got any links to support this " world opinion ", or is this opinion based on what the americans believe?
show me some links mids and then peeple on here can make there own minds up as to the validity of your claim.
Quote by MidsCouple24
Of course the rest of the world is trying to negotiate with both sides to prevent this happening but I really cannot see Iran giving up it's plans to become a nuclear power.

the rest of the world is exactly who mids?
no iran will not give up its right to become a nuclear power. why is it that the super powers who btw do have nuclear power, think they are the worlds police as in who they deem can have that nuclear power? for me i am just as worried about pakistan and they do have nuclear power. this same country who was hiding the worlds most wanted man in bin bag laden. the man who destroyed the twin towers in america heartlands. still pakistan harboured this man. I as i say am just as worried about this other unstable land that is your evidence of pakistan harbouring osama bin liner the sandal i saw floating in the gulf after his body was dumped at sea after his capture ? that story was total and utter nonesense.
osama bin laden was a cia asset up until his death in or around 2001. he had absolutely no connection with the 9/11 atrocities. that was done by 16 saudi's, 1 kuwati and a syrian. the f.b.i. know this because they found the green saudi passport of the lead highjacker at ground zero in perfect condition. see 9/11 commission report. there is absolutly no evidence connecting osama bin laden with 9/11 and no f.b.i. claim to that effect.
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just ask any questions you have on there as there are tons of pages, by world opinion I meant the self styled experts and the accepted experts on Middle Eastern affairs, who know a lot more about the current situation than I do. lol

oh sorry mids the way you was speaking i thought you had a proper source that you had used, you know like a proper link that you could have given me.
obviously you have not. i shall not bother using google as i am sure that if you look hard enough you will find anything a person wants to find on there. :notes:
Nobody is forcing you to take part in this debate, you can ignore it, but the threat of using Nuclear Weapons in a first/pre-emptive strike is big news and there is a lot being written about it, it is on many news channels and everywhere else as is to be expected
here are a few relative links
U.S., Israelis are willing to risk nuclear war with Iranians

Is This Threat Different From All Other Threats?

Can Brazil Stop Iran?

Iran threatens pre-emptive action against Israel
Iran has threatened to launch pre-emptive action against Israel in the event of an attack on its nuclear facilities, raising the tempo in an increasingly bellicose exchange of rhetoric with the Jewish state.

Israel Threatens Iran Over Nuclear Research
Just as I was saying about stocking up for all sorts of problems Mother Nature has struck again, not in a bad way but in the way I said of abnormal weather conditions, we have just enjoyed a week of brilliant sunshine and summer weather, now in April it is snowing in Stoke, ok more sleat than snow, and a feeble attempt but unusual nevertheless and a timely warning that you just never know for sure what Mother Nature will bring next, I recall at least 2 earthquakes in the UK in recent years, something which surprised many of the Islands inhabitants especially some in Birmingham who had houses severley damaged. Cheers for the back up Mother Nature your cheques in the post lol
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Just as I was saying about stocking up for all sorts of problems Mother Nature has struck again, not in a bad way but in the way I said of abnormal weather conditions, we have just enjoyed a week of brilliant sunshine and summer weather, now in April it is snowing in Stoke, ok more sleat than snow, and a feeble attempt but unusual nevertheless and a timely warning that you just never know for sure what Mother Nature will bring next, I recall at least 2 earthquakes in the UK in recent years, something which surprised many of the Islands inhabitants especially some in Birmingham who had houses severley damaged. Cheers for the back up Mother Nature your cheques in the post lol

Unusual, but not unheard of
the west and its proxy (israel) will not attack iran until it has overturned/changed the regime in syria. take a step back and look at the geostrategic situation from a solely western corporate point of veiw.
to stop future developement of the brics you must control africa and eurasia's resourses and prevent trade with the brics and maintain preponderance. read kissinger and bzrezinski and you will understand more clearly the events unfolding. arab spring, libya, syria, somalia, sudan, iran, after having experienced osama to get afghanistan, weapons of mass destruction to get iraq, protection of civilians and humanitarianism to flatten libya and same for syria.
the western leaders dont give a phuck about protecting civilians abroad or at home. they care about profit and war makes plenty of that for some.
western special forces are the syrian free army and paid mercenaries and ciaquader.
the libyan rebels are paid mercenaries, western special forces, al ciaquader and traitors from the previous regime filling their own pockets while most libyans now struggle to feed themselves while the oil flows out for free. nato reparations.
the taliban (afghanis) are likely patriots fighting occupation. al quaeder means data base in arabic. it is the data base of the mujahadeen fighters, recruited, armed, trained and financed by the c.i.a. as a policy of zibignew bzrezinski to expel the soviets out of afghanistan.
am i so old and you so young that these events have taken place in my lifetime and not yours. am i mistaken in joining up the dots ?
how can intelligent human beings with the ability to operate keyboards not see what is taking place unless literally, they were born yesterday and have no foreknowledge ?
if you wish to prevent thermo nuclear catastrophe, you must first wise up. by becoming aware to these machinations, the politicians take fright of your awareness. while you swallow the lies and bullshit, they do more of the same. wake up.
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...another unintelligable rant

blink:blink::blink:
Can anyone smell the coffee yet dunno
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the west and its proxy (israel) will not attack iran until it has overturned/changed the regime in syria. take a step back and look at the geostrategic situation from a solely western corporate point of veiw.
to stop future developement of the brics you must control africa and eurasia's resourses and prevent trade with the brics and maintain preponderance. read kissinger and bzrezinski and you will understand more clearly the events unfolding. arab spring, libya, syria, somalia, sudan, iran, after having experienced osama to get afghanistan, weapons of mass destruction to get iraq, protection of civilians and humanitarianism to flatten libya and same for syria.
the western leaders dont give a phuck about protecting civilians abroad or at home. they care about profit and war makes plenty of that for some.
western special forces are the syrian free army and paid mercenaries and ciaquader.
the libyan rebels are paid mercenaries, western special forces, al ciaquader and traitors from the previous regime filling their own pockets while most libyans now struggle to feed themselves while the oil flows out for free. nato reparations.
the taliban (afghanis) are likely patriots fighting occupation. al quaeder means data base in arabic. it is the data base of the mujahadeen fighters, recruited, armed, trained and financed by the c.i.a. as a policy of zibignew bzrezinski to expel the soviets out of afghanistan.
am i so old and you so young that these events have taken place in my lifetime and not yours. am i mistaken in joining up the dots ?
how can intelligent human beings with the ability to operate keyboards not see what is taking place unless literally, they were born yesterday and have no foreknowledge ?
if you wish to prevent thermo nuclear catastrophe, you must first wise up. by becoming aware to these machinations, the politicians take fright of your awareness. while you swallow the lies and bullshit, they do more of the same. wake up.

when's the x factor back on ??
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when's the x factor back on ??

Was it ever off?
I say bring back Opportunity Knocks with Hughie Green and Monica Rose :crazy: