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Conflict can only be sorted by dialogue, the big stick approach never works.
Maybe if someone was to sit down with the protaginists and actually communicate we would get somewhere...
Seems like another " lets knock the Yanks thread "?
We all can have as much to say about the troops being sent, but it won't make a jot of difference.
The Yanks are right to be there as to pull out now would be madness. More troops will hopefully mean the job can be done better and quicker.
At least the Yanks have some balls unlike France and Germany, who only have a token ammount out there.
While we have troops out there, lets hope they seriously kick some Taliban arse!!
Quote by john469
Perhaps you enjoy the poppies that grow in far greater numbers than they ever did under the Taliban?
Some would say that The Taliban only wiped out 90% of the poppy production to inflate the price of their own stockpiles and to settle vendettas against rival warlords.
But that would be a conspiracy theory !!
And it doesn`t explain why the American and allied forces have encouraged the reintroduction of poppy growing ....One would have assumed that a reduction in heroin reaching European and American shores would be a good thing ....but hey ho ...
I`ve no doubt an explanation will be forthcoming.

The sad thing is, Kenty wont even have the first clue of the numbers.
There is no more to be said other than the Bushes, Blairs and Obamas of this world are drug lords; lieutenants paid in full by their Windsor Rothschild masters.
Never underestimate a wise man!!
Your second comment is so laughable that it really does not even warrant an answer.
Your saying more silly things the more you post Johny!
Quote by john469
Perhaps you enjoy the poppies that grow in far greater numbers than they ever did under the Taliban?
Some would say that The Taliban only wiped out 90% of the poppy production to inflate the price of their own stockpiles and to settle vendettas against rival warlords.
But that would be a conspiracy theory !!
And it doesn`t explain why the American and allied forces have encouraged the reintroduction of poppy growing ....One would have assumed that a reduction in heroin reaching European and American shores would be a good thing ....but hey ho ...
I`ve no doubt an explanation will be forthcoming.

The sad thing is, Kenty wont even have the first clue of the numbers.
There is no more to be said other than the Bushes, Blairs and Obamas of this world are drug lords; lieutenants paid in full by their Windsor Rothschild masters.
Never underestimate a wise man!!
Your second comment is so laughable that it really does not even warrant an answer.
Your saying more silly things the more you post Johny!
So, let me get this correct.
After the illegal invasion of Afghanistan, let me ask you who you paint as responsible for the MASSIVE increase in heroin hitting our shores?
YOU have proof of this? Not a newspaper artical BUT hard evidence?
Cant wait for you to drop the ball here.
The taliban have done FUCK ALL to you, yet you sit there and spout the base imperialistic bullshit you do?
Firstly they pose a threat to our society, and seeing as I live in that society, it COULD affect me! Now if you want to start being rude, I am a master at that game. I have seen your ramblings in some of your other replies where smugness and rudeness seem to come as second nature to you!
As I said, have you ever served?
IF I have that is none of your business, but is my business....nosey parker ain't ya! lol lol
Quote by flower411
Perhaps you enjoy the poppies that grow in far greater numbers than they ever did under the Taliban?
Some would say that The Taliban only wiped out 90% of the poppy production to inflate the price of their own stockpiles and to settle vendettas against rival warlords.
But that would be a conspiracy theory !!
And it doesn`t explain why the American and allied forces have encouraged the reintroduction of poppy growing ....One would have assumed that a reduction in heroin reaching European and American shores would be a good thing ....but hey ho ...
I`ve no doubt an explanation will be forthcoming.

The sad thing is, Kenty wont even have the first clue of the numbers.
There is no more to be said other than the Bushes, Blairs and Obamas of this world are drug lords; lieutenants paid in full by their Windsor Rothschild masters.
Never underestimate a wise man!!
Your second comment is so laughable that it really does not even warrant an answer.
Your saying more silly things the more you post Johny!
So, let me get this correct.
After the illegal invasion of Afghanistan, let me ask you who you paint as responsible for the MASSIVE increase in heroin hitting our shores?
Cant wait for you to drop the ball here.
The taliban have done FUCK ALL to you, yet you sit there and spout the base imperialistic bullshit you do?
As I said, have you ever served?
OI Bog off !! He`s said before in other threads that he`s never served !!
He`s just happy to talk up the deployment of our young men in invasions of other countries so they can come back in body bags.
I want to know how he or the famous Gaunty are going to explain the increase in heroin production after the taliban had reduced it by an incredible amount !!
Oi YOU....that is fucking bang out of order....you really are a nasty bit of work mr Flower!!!!!!!!
When are they going to get you off this site??
Quote by flower411
Perhaps you enjoy the poppies that grow in far greater numbers than they ever did under the Taliban?
Some would say that The Taliban only wiped out 90% of the poppy production to inflate the price of their own stockpiles and to settle vendettas against rival warlords.
But that would be a conspiracy theory !!
And it doesn`t explain why the American and allied forces have encouraged the reintroduction of poppy growing ....One would have assumed that a reduction in heroin reaching European and American shores would be a good thing ....but hey ho ...
I`ve no doubt an explanation will be forthcoming.

The sad thing is, Kenty wont even have the first clue of the numbers.
There is no more to be said other than the Bushes, Blairs and Obamas of this world are drug lords; lieutenants paid in full by their Windsor Rothschild masters.
Never underestimate a wise man!!
Your second comment is so laughable that it really does not even warrant an answer.
Your saying more silly things the more you post Johny!
So, let me get this correct.
After the illegal invasion of Afghanistan, let me ask you who you paint as responsible for the MASSIVE increase in heroin hitting our shores?
Cant wait for you to drop the ball here.
The taliban have done FUCK ALL to you, yet you sit there and spout the base imperialistic bullshit you do?
As I said, have you ever served?
OI Bog off !! He`s said before in other threads that he`s never served !!
He`s just happy to talk up the deployment of our young men in invasions of other countries so they can come back in body bags.
I want to know how he or the famous Gaunty are going to explain the increase in heroin production after the taliban had reduced it by an incredible amount !!
Oi YOU....that is fucking bang out of order....you really are a nasty bit of work mr Flower!!!!!!!!
When are they going to get you off this site??
So which bit isn`t true ??
You keep telling us that our troops are going to "kick Taliban arse" and they ARE coming back in body bags and you have stated that you have never served !
If you did your research properly, you would see that Kenty actually said "let's HOPE they kick Taliban arse", quite different to what you claim. You really are a sad piece of work Flower, you bang on about hatred but it's quite obvious where the hatred lies, you just can't leave it alone, can you?
And before you retort that I'm one of Kenty's gang, I'm nothing of the sort, I'm just sick to death of the type of shit that you constantly stir up in these forums.
Quote by flower411
Perhaps you enjoy the poppies that grow in far greater numbers than they ever did under the Taliban?
Some would say that The Taliban only wiped out 90% of the poppy production to inflate the price of their own stockpiles and to settle vendettas against rival warlords.
But that would be a conspiracy theory !!
And it doesn`t explain why the American and allied forces have encouraged the reintroduction of poppy growing ....One would have assumed that a reduction in heroin reaching European and American shores would be a good thing ....but hey ho ...
I`ve no doubt an explanation will be forthcoming.

The sad thing is, Kenty wont even have the first clue of the numbers.
There is no more to be said other than the Bushes, Blairs and Obamas of this world are drug lords; lieutenants paid in full by their Windsor Rothschild masters.
Never underestimate a wise man!!
Your second comment is so laughable that it really does not even warrant an answer.
Your saying more silly things the more you post Johny!
So, let me get this correct.
After the illegal invasion of Afghanistan, let me ask you who you paint as responsible for the MASSIVE increase in heroin hitting our shores?
Cant wait for you to drop the ball here.
The taliban have done FUCK ALL to you, yet you sit there and spout the base imperialistic bullshit you do?
As I said, have you ever served?
OI Bog off !! He`s said before in other threads that he`s never served !!
He`s just happy to talk up the deployment of our young men in invasions of other countries so they can come back in body bags.
I want to know how he or the famous Gaunty are going to explain the increase in heroin production after the taliban had reduced it by an incredible amount !!
Oi YOU....that is fucking bang out of order....you really are a nasty bit of work mr Flower!!!!!!!!
When are they going to get you off this site??
So which bit isn`t true ??
You keep telling us that our troops are going to "kick Taliban arse" and they ARE coming back in body bags and you have stated that you have never served !
If you did your research properly, you would see that Kenty actually said "let's HOPE they kick Taliban arse", quite different to what you claim. You really are a sad piece of work Flower, you bang on about hatred but it's quite obvious where the hatred lies, you just can't leave it alone, can you?
And before you retort that I'm one of Kenty's gang, I'm nothing of the sort, I'm just sick to death of the type of shit that you constantly stir up in these forums.
Max .... is that really the best you can come up with ?
You constantly appear in threads where the other 777 is stiring and accuse the other people of causing the problems !!
I have a feeling you actually believe the stuff you come out with .....I`ve said it in private ...now I`ll say it in public ...
You really should take more water with it !!
More water with what? Are you trying to insinuate that I have a drink problem? Isn't that your specialist area?
Yes I actually do believe the stuff I come out with, I wouldn't bother posting otherwise. If you really can't see that it's actually YOU that's striiring it here then you are more of a sad case than I thought.
Quote by Max777
Perhaps you enjoy the poppies that grow in far greater numbers than they ever did under the Taliban?
Some would say that The Taliban only wiped out 90% of the poppy production to inflate the price of their own stockpiles and to settle vendettas against rival warlords.
But that would be a conspiracy theory !!
And it doesn`t explain why the American and allied forces have encouraged the reintroduction of poppy growing ....One would have assumed that a reduction in heroin reaching European and American shores would be a good thing ....but hey ho ...
I`ve no doubt an explanation will be forthcoming.

The sad thing is, Kenty wont even have the first clue of the numbers.
There is no more to be said other than the Bushes, Blairs and Obamas of this world are drug lords; lieutenants paid in full by their Windsor Rothschild masters.
Never underestimate a wise man!!
Your second comment is so laughable that it really does not even warrant an answer.
Your saying more silly things the more you post Johny!
So, let me get this correct.
After the illegal invasion of Afghanistan, let me ask you who you paint as responsible for the MASSIVE increase in heroin hitting our shores?
Cant wait for you to drop the ball here.
The taliban have done FUCK ALL to you, yet you sit there and spout the base imperialistic bullshit you do?
As I said, have you ever served?
OI Bog off !! He`s said before in other threads that he`s never served !!
He`s just happy to talk up the deployment of our young men in invasions of other countries so they can come back in body bags.
I want to know how he or the famous Gaunty are going to explain the increase in heroin production after the taliban had reduced it by an incredible amount !!
Oi YOU....that is fucking bang out of order....you really are a nasty bit of work mr Flower!!!!!!!!
When are they going to get you off this site??
So which bit isn`t true ??
You keep telling us that our troops are going to "kick Taliban arse" and they ARE coming back in body bags and you have stated that you have never served !
If you did your research properly, you would see that Kenty actually said "let's HOPE they kick Taliban arse", quite different to what you claim. You really are a sad piece of work Flower, you bang on about hatred but it's quite obvious where the hatred lies, you just can't leave it alone, can you?
And before you retort that I'm one of Kenty's gang, I'm nothing of the sort, I'm just sick to death of the type of shit that you constantly stir up in these forums.
Max .... is that really the best you can come up with ?
You constantly appear in threads where the other 777 is stiring and accuse the other people of causing the problems !!
I have a feeling you actually believe the stuff you come out with .....I`ve said it in private ...now I`ll say it in public ...
You really should take more water with it !!
More water with what? Are you trying to insinuate that I have a drink problem? Isn't that your specialist area?
Yes I actually do believe the stuff I come out with, I wouldn't bother posting otherwise. If you really can't see that it's actually YOU that's striiring it here then you are more of a sad case than I thought.

Some people cant handle it Max.
Hence why all the crap comes out of an evening.
Johny it seems your last post was edited TEN yes I did say TEN times!
You got other sites then apart from Google??
That has to be a record for editing a post...but am sure with your Google skills, you can show us links saying different!
Trying to be a smart arse really suits you.
Being extremely rude seems to be a trait you do very well too.smackbottom
Quote by john469
Johny it seems your last post was edited TEN yes I did say TEN times!
You got other sites then apart from Google??
That has to be a record for editing a post...but am sure with your Google skills, you can show us links saying different!
Trying to be a smart arse really suits you.
Being extremely rude seems to be a trait you do very well too.smackbottom

No, I edited the post twice, once for spelling, and once to correct the coded tag.
The '5' figure is a result of my OCD.
To wit, one of the rituals I currently have, is that I - when editing a forum post - have to leave the 'edited' number on a multiple of five ie: 5, 10 or 25 in some cases.
Feel free to go back over my post history to check if ya doubt me.
Nice to see thats all you have; far be it from me to call you a wanker, not my stylesmile
But of course it is ok to call someone a " fuckwit "?
Your a strange old cookie! Nice pic btw. wink
Quote by flower411

Ark who is calling the kettle black...
You just get the hump when people jump to my defence,a bit like the people who pm me regularly those ones you scoff about.
As I have said you are in last chance saloon here,and not if but when it does happen, I for one will raise a glass or two.
Scotch your tipple?
Quote by john469
Johny it seems your last post was edited TEN yes I did say TEN times!
You got other sites then apart from Google??
That has to be a record for editing a post...but am sure with your Google skills, you can show us links saying different!
Trying to be a smart arse really suits you.
Being extremely rude seems to be a trait you do very well too.smackbottom

No, I edited the post twice, once for spelling, and once to correct the coded tag.
The '5' figure is a result of my OCD.
To wit, one of the rituals I currently have, is that I - when editing a forum post - have to leave the 'edited' number on a multiple of five ie: 5, 10 or 25 in some cases.
Feel free to go back over my post history to check if ya doubt me.
Nice to see thats all you have; far be it from me to call you a wanker, not my style smile
If you say so Johny. There is only one on this thread though, but it would coincide with lots of Googles equals lots of edits.
Quote by kentswingers777
Johny it seems your last post was edited TEN yes I did say TEN times!
You got other sites then apart from Google??
That has to be a record for editing a post...but am sure with your Google skills, you can show us links saying different!
Trying to be a smart arse really suits you.
Being extremely rude seems to be a trait you do very well too.smackbottom

No, I edited the post twice, once for spelling, and once to correct the coded tag.
The '5' figure is a result of my OCD.
To wit, one of the rituals I currently have, is that I - when editing a forum post - have to leave the 'edited' number on a multiple of five ie: 5, 10 or 25 in some cases.
Feel free to go back over my post history to check if ya doubt me.
Nice to see thats all you have; far be it from me to call you a wanker, not my style smile
If you say so Johny. There is only one on this thread though, but it would coincide with lots of Googles equals lots of edits.
When someone makes a claim like that I get suspicious............so I looked through half of his 124 posts on this forum. I was amazed to see that he was spot on with what he said. Some had 5, some 10 with one that was edited 40 times. It amazes me what things happen in the human mind.
It is a subject that I have been reading into (personal level and not study of any kind)........looks like I have OCD, as well as other types of issues, to look into now
Dave_Notts
Was my account deactivated of late?
No it was not..
Was any of my posts cleaned? No they were not.
Were any of my comments taken off? No they were not.
Whose were I wonder? Gone quite.
Does that answer your question?
You bleat on about Max, but seems you have a matey in Johny.
You both seem lovely people.
Quote by Dave__Notts
Johny it seems your last post was edited TEN yes I did say TEN times!
You got other sites then apart from Google??
That has to be a record for editing a post...but am sure with your Google skills, you can show us links saying different!
Trying to be a smart arse really suits you.
Being extremely rude seems to be a trait you do very well too.smackbottom

No, I edited the post twice, once for spelling, and once to correct the coded tag.
The '5' figure is a result of my OCD.
To wit, one of the rituals I currently have, is that I - when editing a forum post - have to leave the 'edited' number on a multiple of five ie: 5, 10 or 25 in some cases.
Feel free to go back over my post history to check if ya doubt me.
Nice to see thats all you have; far be it from me to call you a wanker, not my style smile
If you say so Johny. There is only one on this thread though, but it would coincide with lots of Googles equals lots of edits.
When someone makes a claim like that I get suspicious............so I looked through half of his 124 posts on this forum. I was amazed to see that he was spot on with what he said. Some had 5, some 10 with one that was edited 40 times. It amazes me what things happen in the human mind.
It is a subject that I have been reading into (personal level and not study of any kind)........looks like I have OCD, as well as other types of issues, to look into now
Dave_Notts
I used to have an OCD problem. The number four was my sticking point. It's enough to drive you even madder.
Johnny- you can beat it, I did. And four is far more important than five :giggle:
*will not edit post four times*
Quote by john469

I used to have an OCD problem. The number four was my sticking point. It's enough to drive you even madder.
Johnny- you can beat it, I did. And four is far more important than five :giggle:
*will not edit post four times*

yeah, I used to be worse - hording stuff - but had a course of CBT.
Its more of a pain in the ass these days, things like checking stuff, or not being able to take the first item on a supermarket shelf (have to grab one from the back lol) and other crap like that LOL
I did CBT too- but all it taught me was the basics of riding a motorbike dunno
I dealt with the OCD alone- whilst keeping it a secret. No one, not even hubby knew I had a problem. If you've got help- it should be even more do-able. Good luck to you. :thumbup:
Quote by flower411

Ark who is calling the kettle black...
You just get the hump when people jump to my defence,a bit like the people who pm me regularly those ones you scoff about.
As I have said you are in last chance saloon here,and not if but when it does happen, I for one will raise a glass or two.
Scotch your tipple?
I`ve no doubt the pair of you wallow in mutual congratulation....have fun ....but just remember ....you`ll be sober in the morning .
As long as you continue to divert attention away from the original post and make out that every post is some kind of personal attack, you`ll be winning.....but eventually people will be able to post in here without you diverting away from the subject.
Flower.........I don't have time to respond in full this morning but will do later. For your information, I was sober last night...........were you?
Quote by kentswingers777
Seems like another " lets knock the Yanks thread "?
We all can have as much to say about the troops being sent, but it won't make a jot of difference.
The Yanks are right to be there as to pull out now would be madness. More troops will hopefully mean the job can be done better and quicker.
At least the Yanks have some balls unlike France and Germany, who only have a token ammount out there.
While we have troops out there, lets hope they seriously kick some Taliban arse!!

Sorry to come in on this late in the day (well, it's actually 09:45 CET and I was sober last night - as indeed I am now) but what's with this constant Franco-German bashing about the numbers of troops deployed in other people's conflicts?
I don't agree with your sentiment that for any of the forces to be pulled out now would be madness.
Quite the contrary.
The Taliban will never be defeated and "kicking Taliban arse" is turning out to be a very expensive pastime both in financial terms and loss of life, neither of which are affordable.
Better in my view for the resources to be deployed on the home front. Maybe there will be a further benefit in stopping the migrants crossing borders and finding their way to Croydon wink
Quote by flower411

Ark who is calling the kettle black...
You just get the hump when people jump to my defence,a bit like the people who pm me regularly those ones you scoff about.
As I have said you are in last chance saloon here,and not if but when it does happen, I for one will raise a glass or two.
Scotch your tipple?
I`ve no doubt the pair of you wallow in mutual congratulation....have fun ....but just remember ....you`ll be sober in the morning .
As long as you continue to divert attention away from the original post and make out that every post is some kind of personal attack, you`ll be winning.....but eventually people will be able to post in here without you diverting away from the subject.
Flower.........I don't have time to respond in full this morning but will do later. For your information, I was sober last night...........were you?
Yes thanks.
Seems a shame then that you act with such venom and vitriol without the aid of alcohol.
Is it some other kind of artificial stimulant that fires you up then ?
Flower, I won't come down to your level, if you want to slander me then go ahead, it's quite obvious that if you have to resort to such pettiness and innuendo, then you really do have a problem.
In answer to the question you asked me, yes I did read Kent's original post and see nothing offensive in it. It may have been his usual bombastic style but nothing offensive. What I DID find offensive, was this "He`s just happy to talk up the deployment of our young men in invasions of other countries so they can come back in body bags." That's totally uncalled for and out of order.
I also saw the other post you made "In some cases this is true but there will always be people who call on the authorities when somebody upsets them and they are unable to cope with a little criticism." To anyone that doesn't know the history between you and Kent, this would probably have little significance but it is a deliberate dig at Kent, in fact this sort of post is your speciality...having sly little digs. You did the same to me the first time we crossed swords, quoting from my profile in a totally unrelated thread and adding a little dig at the end. I chose to ignore it.
I hate to disappoint you but Kenty and I do not sit and congratulate each other, nor do I follow Kent's posts in the hope of stirring up trouble, I think you manage that quite well on your own, but I really don't think there is any point me telling you this, as in your sad little world it probably makes you happy to imagine such things. You also asked me if I believed the things that I posted....I would ask you the same question. Do you honestly believe that you DO NOTdeliberatley stir things up with your posts against Kent ( or anyone else that happens to disagree with you?) If your answer is yes, then you really are delusional.
Deluded is his middle name Max.
His account was stopped as far as I know, his comments towards me some weeks ago were " stripped " from the thread. He has been warned.
IF he does not want to take any notice of that, then when he cannot log on here anymore, maybe he will realise?
Somehow from what has been written since, he has not listened.
I wil not sit back and take some drunken rant, implying I look forward to our young boys coming home in body bags...now that is fucking offensive, but then that is the nature of the man.
As people are aware my step Son will be out there next year....do I want him coming home in a body bag too?
I HAVE complained to admin many times about him, he knows this too....hence the constant digs.
The bottom line Max is that he holds a grudge, as we fell out years ago...many people know this as well.
Still life is too short to hold grudges, but his comment in this thread is what got my back up....offensive in the extreme.
You see with Johny, whilst he can be rude I still respect his comments, and he is a good person to discuss with. Yes he can call me a fuckwit...very funny that is too but....I hold no ill thoughts about him at all.
But with Mr Flower he deliberatly goes out of his way to be nasty, certainly towards me. But that is where grudges come in.
This did seem a let's knock the Yanks thread, and from that is where the nastiness started.
Give some people enough Rope and they will surely hang themselves, and I beleive I will still be here, long after he has gone...unless he seriously changes his attitude.
Now I have to get back to work, as my new 65 inch telly has to be paid for. wink
Quote by flower411
Deluded is his middle name Max.
His account was stopped as far as I know, his comments towards me some weeks ago were " stripped " from the thread. He has been warned.
IF he does not want to take any notice of that, then when he cannot log on here anymore, maybe he will realise?
Somehow from what has been written since, he has not listened.
I wil not sit back and take some drunken rant, implying I look forward to our young boys coming home in body bags...now that is fucking offensive, but then that is the nature of the man.
As people are aware my step Son will be out there next year....do I want him coming home in a body bag too?
I HAVE complained to admin many times about him, he knows this too....hence the constant digs.
The bottom line Max is that he holds a grudge, as we fell out years ago...many people know this as well.
Still life is too short to hold grudges, but his comment in this thread is what got my back up....offensive in the extreme.
You see with Johny, whilst he can be rude I still respect his comments, and he is a good person to discuss with. Yes he can call me a fuckwit...very funny that is too but....I hold no ill thoughts about him at all.
But with Mr Flower he deliberatly goes out of his way to be nasty, certainly towards me. But that is where grudges come in.
This did seem a let's knock the Yanks thread, and from that is where the nastiness started.
Give some people enough Rope and they will surely hang themselves, and I beleive I will still be here, long after he has gone...unless he seriously changes his attitude.
Now I have to get back to work, as my new 65 inch telly has to be paid for. wink

I have no idea why your constant personal attacks on people are allowed in here but they are and we all have to put up with it.
You really are deluded!
I have just spent an hour going through the forum posts where you have either slandered me, or been downright abusive. There are a few I can tell you, and that does not include the " snide " remarks either.
I have been here for a long time now and I cannot remember a thread that was " cleaned " where very offensive remarks were made by YOU and deleted. None of mine were taken out so does that not tell you something?....maybe not.
My account remained intact, and nothing I said was construed as offensive by the Mods or Admin themselves. Maybe you think there is a conspiracy here, where I can get away with anything? That is rubbish as well you know.
My original comment to this thread was that it seemed to ME it was just another knock the Yanks thread, which let's be fair you have given that impression on many occasions.
You are anti war so are anti American...fine but it was a knock the Yanks thread again.
IF you continue with the attitude you have adopted against me, and don't pretend otherwise, you will find your account permanatly de-activated...don't say you have not been warned.
There have been many a thread locked but " cleaned "? Hmmmm.
People may well find my remarks offensive and yes I can be rude, but that is not aimed at one single person...you on the other hand have this big grudge against me....live with it and deal with it!
Quote by flower411

Ark who is calling the kettle black...
You just get the hump when people jump to my defence,a bit like the people who pm me regularly those ones you scoff about.
As I have said you are in last chance saloon here,and not if but when it does happen, I for one will raise a glass or two.
Scotch your tipple?
I`ve no doubt the pair of you wallow in mutual congratulation....have fun ....but just remember ....you`ll be sober in the morning .
As long as you continue to divert attention away from the original post and make out that every post is some kind of personal attack, you`ll be winning.....but eventually people will be able to post in here without you diverting away from the subject.
Flower.........I don't have time to respond in full this morning but will do later. For your information, I was sober last night...........were you?
Yes thanks.
Seems a shame then that you act with such venom and vitriol without the aid of alcohol.
Is it some other kind of artificial stimulant that fires you up then ?
Flower, I won't come down to your level, if you want to slander me then go ahead, it's quite obvious that if you have to resort to such pettiness and innuendo, then you really do have a problem.
In answer to the question you asked me, yes I did read Kent's original post and see nothing offensive in it. It may have been his usual bombastic style but nothing offensive. What I DID find offensive, was this "He`s just happy to talk up the deployment of our young men in invasions of other countries so they can come back in body bags." That's totally uncalled for and out of order.
I also saw the other post you made "In some cases this is true but there will always be people who call on the authorities when somebody upsets them and they are unable to cope with a little criticism." To anyone that doesn't know the history between you and Kent, this would probably have little significance but it is a deliberate dig at Kent, in fact this sort of post is your speciality...having sly little digs. You did the same to me the first time we crossed swords, quoting from my profile in a totally unrelated thread and adding a little dig at the end. I chose to ignore it.
I hate to disappoint you but Kenty and I do not sit and congratulate each other, nor do I follow Kent's posts in the hope of stirring up trouble, I think you manage that quite well on your own, but I really don't think there is any point me telling you this, as in your sad little world it probably makes you happy to imagine such things. You also asked me if I believed the things that I posted....I would ask you the same question. Do you honestly believe that you DO NOTdeliberatley stir things up with your posts against Kent ( or anyone else that happens to disagree with you?) If your answer is yes, then you really are delusional.
When I referred to the original post I was refering to the original post not 777`s post that was written deliberately to try to stir up trouble ..
I am genuinely interested in other peoples views on the fact that Barrack Obama has been awarded the Nobel peace prize and is now sending 30 000 more troops into war ..but as usual you have taken it upon yourself with the rest of the 777 gang to ignore the original post and change the thread to your own agenda !
It`s shame that people can`t start threads in here without personal vitriolic attacks from the two of you but unfortunately that`s just the way it is.
Flower, FFS go out and get yourself help!
This thread needs locking, surely dunno
Perhaps not locking, though it is a further demonstration where one poster has taken the lead away from the intended discussion (not a bad thing in itself generally) with personal comments, and a vitriolic and pointed style which appears informed solely on thier personal impression of the poster quoted, rather than the content of thier posts.
It happens all too often.
It belittles the nature of the forum, and they belittle themselves.
Then this same poster has the temerity to play the victim, the poor little "misunderstood", in what 'appears' to be an attempt to simply get others into trouble.
Childish, arrogant and ignorant.
Surely this type of behaviour, though not strictly an infrigement of the AUP, can be handled by the people with the responcibilty to do so, in such a way as to make it know to be frowned upon?
It makes a mockery of the whole fora.
"victim" indeed!
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on topic:
Flower... My thought about the Nobel and Mr Obama;
the award makes as much of a mockery of the Peace Prize as some of the posts I have seen in responce to your original question.
If it was awarded politically to send a "message" of support of Obama's actions, the intended audience for that message don't give a hoot in the first place.
Obama does not persue peace. Niether do the United States, and niether do any of our western 'powers'.
... in my humble etc.
travesty
lp
I'm sure I just saw the voice of reason, and it was Rolp shaped.
That was some hallucination.
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Perhaps not locking, though it is a further demonstration where one poster has taken the lead away from the intended discussion (not a bad thing in itself generally) with personal comments, and a vitriolic and pointed style which appears informed solely on thier personal impression of the poster quoted, rather than the content of thier posts.
It happens all too often.
It belittles the nature of the forum, and they belittle themselves.
Then this same poster has the temerity to play the victim, the poor little "misunderstood", in what 'appears' to be an attempt to simply get others into trouble.
Childish, arrogant and ignorant.
Surely this type of behaviour, though not strictly an infrigement of the AUP, can be handled by the people with the responcibilty to do so, in such a way as to make it know to be frowned upon?
It makes a mockery of the whole fora.
"victim" indeed!
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lp, your comments re the playing of victim etc could equally apply to more than one poster here. I have reread this thread and whilst Kent's response to the OP may not have been strictly on topic, it is far from being vitriolic, certainly nowhere as vitriolic, pointed or personal as later posts by others.
Posters resorting to childish slander and innuendo also makes a mockery of the fora.
Oh and Flower, if you want my response to your original question, The whole Obama/Nobel thing has been done in a previous thread ( of yours?) to which I have nothing to add.
lp
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Perhaps not locking, though it is a further demonstration where one poster has taken the lead away from the intended discussion (not a bad thing in itself generally) with personal comments, and a vitriolic and pointed style which appears informed solely on thier personal impression of the poster quoted, rather than the content of thier posts.
It happens all too often.
It belittles the nature of the forum, and they belittle themselves.
Then this same poster has the temerity to play the victim, the poor little "misunderstood", in what 'appears' to be an attempt to simply get others into trouble.
Childish, arrogant and ignorant.
Surely this type of behaviour, though not strictly an infrigement of the AUP, can be handled by the people with the responcibilty to do so, in such a way as to make it know to be frowned upon?
It makes a mockery of the whole fora.
"victim" indeed!
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lp, your comments re the playing of victim etc could equally apply to more than one poster here. I have reread this thread and whilst Kent's response to the OP may not have been strictly on topic, it is far from being vitriolic, certainly nowhere as vitriolic, pointed or personal as later posts by others.
Posters resorting to childish slander and innuendo also makes a mockery of the fora.
Oh and Flower, if you want my response to your original question, The whole Obama/Nobel thing has been done in a previous thread ( of yours?) to which I have nothing to add.
lp

I never actually mentioned the highlighted person... but thankyou for coming to the same assumption
... however, the "by others" (highlighted) still very much applies to the person/poster also highlighted above. I shant go to the trouble of quoting the sections, however they are all indeed there.
thank you
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I'm sure I just saw the voice of reason, and it was Rolp shaped.
That was some hallucination.

It couldn't have been me... I'm innocent...
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:thumbup: on both points random,the op was asking a valid question,that was in no way anti american

thank you kindly... It seems that I am not the only person who has this opinion.
I very very nearly started to place a silly comment about... (No! Stop!) ... but stopped myself. As I feel this type of nonsence is as stated, making a mockery of the site, the forum, and dare I say the moderators. This is not a slur in any way. Niether do I wish to take my thoughts to PM as they shine a light onto a behaviour that has no place here.
It's low.
lp
Just so you are all aware, this thread and the posters within it, are being looked at and a decision made on the way forward.
Thanks
Mal
Thank you
lp
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Seems like another " lets knock the Yanks thread "?
We all can have as much to say about the troops being sent, but it won't make a jot of difference.
The Yanks are right to be there as to pull out now would be madness. More troops will hopefully mean the job can be done better and quicker.
At least the Yanks have some balls unlike France and Germany, who only have a token ammount out there.
While we have troops out there, lets hope they seriously kick some Taliban arse!!

get what job done better and quicker kenty?