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From the Liverpool Daily Post

If the following turns out to be true - I wonder how Mr Dalgleish and LFC might be thinking now about their decision to openly support Mr Suarez in the form of the t- shirt saga.
...............Adeyemi has already given a statement to police in which it is understood he claims to have been called a “black c---“.
And an eyewitness who gave evidence to police alleges they saw two fans wearing Luis Suarez t-shirts, and heard one shout “you f---ing black b-----d” which prompted Adeyemi to turn and begin pointing at the crowd...................
CCTV and full weight of the Law, hopefully
Quote by Too Hot
From the Liverpool Daily Post

If the following turns out to be true - I wonder how Mr Dalgleish and LFC might be thinking now about their decision to openly support Mr Suarez in the form of the t- shirt saga.
...............Adeyemi has already given a statement to police in which it is understood he claims to have been called a "black c---".
And an eyewitness who gave evidence to police alleges they saw two fans wearing Luis Suarez t-shirts, and heard one shout "you f---ing black b-----d" which prompted Adeyemi to turn and begin pointing at the crowd...................

wtf has that got to do with racist fans oh i get it lets ban Suarez for another 8 matches ffs
you really need to go to a football match to understand the racism involved instead of sitting on your pedestal looking down on everyone else (i`ll give you a clue its one of the reasons i no longer go )
yes racism is rife at football matches go see for yourself and try actually reading some posts written in the last Liverpool football thread :doh:
but all your doing now is trying make it look like saurez and liverpool have somehow got a hand in this
ahh now i get it a quick look at your profile shows the bigger picture and your real gripe banghead
I watched this match last night, and wondered what it was that had affected has been mentioned, the use of CCTV and full weight of the law is something I hope comes to those that have been alleged to have made these comments.
You ask how those from the club that openly supported Suarez and wore t-shirts might be thinking, I am will to guess that they are sickened, and hope that if true, they will be punished. The abuse that Adeyemi is claiming he received, is different to the Suarez incident, according to what I have read today, people deliberately, and maliciously were openly and blatantly racist towards Adeyemi, and if so, they deserve everything coming to them, and would hope that they are banned from every club and ground in the country, and dealt with by the law.
Quote by Lizaleanrob
wtf has that got to do with racist fans oh i get it lets ban Suarez for another 8 matches ffs
you really need to go to a football match to understand the racism involved instead of sitting on your pedestal looking down on everyone else (i`ll give you a clue its one of the reasons i no longer go )
yes racism is rife at football matches go see for yourself and try actually reading some posts written in the last Liverpool football thread :doh:
but all your doing now is trying make it look like saurez and liverpool have somehow got a hand in this
ahh now i get it a quick look at your profile shows the bigger picture and your real gripe banghead

Very touchy...................
You are about a million miles off the mark, I wonder if that is something about pre judging?
OK so Liverpool support Suarez with t-shirts and at the moment the whole world outside of the red side of Liverpool is associating the t-shirts with supporting racism - whether ort not this is true. In any event two fans wearing the same t-shirts are seen and heard to be using racist language. Unfortunately there are numpties in all walks of life and these two have regrettably brought the t-shirt decision very muxch back into the spotlight.
By the way, just because you disagree there is no need to get personal. What our profile has to do with football I have absolutely no idea at all. Why not debate it civilly and look at what is being said instead of thinking you know what is really meant. I am drawing reference to the unfortunate co-incidence that two "supporters" have uised raxcist behaviour and seen to be wearing the Suarez supporting t-shirts. No one could have ever known that would happen - but on reflection, it now makes the original t-shirt decision to be a bit misguided.
Make no mistake Liverpool will be really under the spotlight in the coming weeks because of this and the Suarez incident.
Nice to note
"As a Liverpool fan John Barnes was someone I had watched and admired. Yes he was black but first and foremost he was playing for my team. I didn't really consider that he was different ­ I still don't", Steven Gerrard, LUFC
“Everyone across the world should be able to enjoy their football no matter what race, culture or religion”, Martin Kelly LUFC & their club's One Game, One Communityambassador for Kick It Out this season.
"Racism is not only a problem in football, it's a problem in society. Until we tackle it in society, we can't tackle it in football", John Barnes, England's most capped black player & LUFC legend.
"So-called supporters who racially abuse players should not only be thrown out of the ground, they should be banned for life by that club", Harry Redknapp, Tottenham Hotspur manager.
Quote by Too Hot
OK so Liverpool support Suarez with t-shirts and at the moment the whole world outside of the red side of Liverpool is associating the t-shirts with supporting racism - whether ort not this is true.

The majority of people wouldn't know who Suarez is and wouldn't care about the whole episode.
Dave_Notts
Quote by Too Hot
From the Liverpool Daily Post

If the following turns out to be true - I wonder how Mr Dalgleish and LFC might be thinking now about their decision to openly support Mr Suarez in the form of the t- shirt saga.
...............Adeyemi has already given a statement to police in which it is understood he claims to have been called a “black c---“.
And an eyewitness who gave evidence to police alleges they saw two fans wearing Luis Suarez t-shirts, and heard one shout “you f---ing black b-----d” which prompted Adeyemi to turn and begin pointing at the crowd...................

if i did not know different i would say you hated liverpool and everything to do with liverpool fc.
not a man utd supporter at all are you?
if and it is a big if this is true, what has this in the slightest got to do with liverpool football club? why should the club be accountable for morons who say things in the crowd? they cannot possibly police everyone in the ground, and i am sure that the football club will ban the offending supporters for life, if they are found to be guilty. what more do you want?
you obviusly have your own issues but dare anyone that says anything against your comments.
is this a personnel vendetta against Liverpool fc,or have you issues with them? because as far as i can see you have not mentioned the john terry situation at all. even if you have it is nowhere near as much as suarez and liverpool fc in particular. even though john terry has been actually charged by the police for racist comments.
Quote by Too Hot
From the Liverpool Daily Post

If the following turns out to be true - I wonder how Mr Dalgleish and LFC might be thinking now about their decision to openly support Mr Suarez in the form of the t- shirt saga.
...............Adeyemi has already given a statement to police in which it is understood he claims to have been called a “black c---“.
And an eyewitness who gave evidence to police alleges they saw two fans wearing Luis Suarez t-shirts, and heard one shout “you f---ing black b-----d” which prompted Adeyemi to turn and begin pointing at the crowd...................

Its terrible............football supposed to be fun for god's sake
Ian & jo x
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John Terry has not got a leg to stand on. Nothing to debate other than the punishment he gets and I think it should be a ban for life from football.
The only thing that I have against Liverpool is how the name and reputation of a great Club is being tarnished by stubborn ignorance of the people currently at the top.
I don't really think that you believe that the Club is not responsible for its supporters - of course it is - legally and morally.
Kenny Dalgleish and his actions have resulted in great embarrassment to a great Club and the result will be an increasing focus on the Club and the supporters in the coming weeks. I personally believe that the idiot who has now been arrested somehow feels that he has done nothing wrong because he is within the bastions of fortress Anfield and the Reds will always look after themselves irrespective of right, or wrong. That mindset has come about because of the actions of Kenny Dalgleish and his stubborn support of Suarez and stupid things that he said on TV which were broadcast all over the world.
I don't have a problem with Liverpool. I do have a problem with the way that Liverpool are being managed today compared to their glorious past.
Quote by Too Hot
John Terry has not got a leg to stand on. Nothing to debate other than the punishment he gets and I think it should be a ban for life from football.
The only thing that I have against Liverpool is how the name and reputation of a great Club is being tarnished by stubborn ignorance of the people currently at the top.
I don't really think that you believe that the Club is not responsible for its supporters - of course it is - legally and morally.
Kenny Dalgleish and his actions have resulted in great embarrassment to a great Club and the result will be an increasing focus on the Club and the supporters in the coming weeks. I personally believe that the idiot who has now been arrested somehow feels that he has done nothing wrong because he is within the bastions of fortress Anfield and the Reds will always look after themselves irrespective of right, or wrong. That mindset has come about because of the actions of Kenny Dalgleish and his stubborn support of Suarez and stupid things that he said on TV which were broadcast all over the world.
I don't have a problem with Liverpool. I do have a problem with the way that Liverpool are being managed today compared to their glorious past.

Do you really believe that Kenny Daglish and the team could have worn the t-shirts without the consent of those above Kenny?
And this would be the same Kenny Daglish that spent weeks visiting relatives and attending the funerals of those killed in the Hillsbrough disaster. The man who had to quit the club because he was emotionally drained by the experience.
I'm not even going to bother to comment on the rest of your post as it's utter tosh.
Quote by Max777
I'm not even going to bother to comment on the rest of your post as it's utter tosh.

if that is the same as rubbish max the :thumbup: 110%.
the guy has a serious problem it seems with liverpool fc.
he is even a mind reeder in saying john terry has not got a leg to stand on. remember that suarez had no barrister representing him, john terry will have and in front of probably a jury. suarez just had a panel of numpties letting him know his fate.
no a club is not responsible for every supporter out there. they will ban this supporter for life if he is guilty, but i think you would have him birched and shot at dawn. what old fashioned values you hold and if you really beleeve all that you write then you have my sympathies, as you are just like what my friend descibed. :notes:
Quote by Too Hot

wtf has that got to do with racist fans oh i get it lets ban Suarez for another 8 matches ffs
you really need to go to a football match to understand the racism involved instead of sitting on your pedestal looking down on everyone else (i`ll give you a clue its one of the reasons i no longer go )
yes racism is rife at football matches go see for yourself and try actually reading some posts written in the last Liverpool football thread :doh:
but all your doing now is trying make it look like saurez and liverpool have somehow got a hand in this
ahh now i get it a quick look at your profile shows the bigger picture and your real gripe banghead

Very touchy...................
You are about a million miles off the mark, I wonder if that is something about pre judging?
OK so Liverpool support Suarez with t-shirts and at the moment the whole world outside of the red side of Liverpool is associating the t-shirts with supporting racism - whether ort not this is true. In any event two fans wearing the same t-shirts are seen and heard to be using racist language. Unfortunately there are numpties in all walks of life and these two have regrettably brought the t-shirt decision very muxch back into the spotlight.
By the way, just because you disagree there is no need to get personal. What our profile has to do with football I have absolutely no idea at all. Why not debate it civilly and look at what is being said instead of thinking you know what is really meant. I am drawing reference to the unfortunate co-incidence that two "supporters" have uised raxcist behaviour and seen to be wearing the Suarez supporting t-shirts. No one could have ever known that would happen - but on reflection, it now makes the original t-shirt decision to be a bit misguided.
Make no mistake Liverpool will be really under the spotlight in the coming weeks because of this and the Suarez incident.
The whole world! wow really? Funny as most people I speak to about it no matter what their club alignment is seem to say its a load of bullshit. Sorry I'll correct myself their as I said speak to when I should have said spoken to as in past tense. The Suarez incident was pretty much tommorws fish and chip paper as soon as it happened. As for the fans I hope they get punished I hope they get banned but fans shouting any kind of abuse at football matchs is nothing new. Clubs always do get held accountable which I have always found odd its not like its possible to control the words of every one of 30 to 80 thousand fans walking into premiership games each weekend. You can blame the LFC management you can blame the team but then the other way of looking at it is to blame the FA lol If they had not made such a big issue out of such a small issue that had little or no eveidence to support it then there would have been no incident last night.
Its all getting a bit :sleeping: now
maybe some peeple should catch a glimse of last nights fa cup highlights programe on itv. have a look at what paul ince says about it all, he speaks more sense than most.
as a black player that has been through this, and not some white person who only thinks he knows and there is big differce between the to, his comments are spot on :thumbup:
see there is the difference, a black player that does know, against white peeple who only think they know.
as my friend said about white peeple who want to be the black mans guardian. they do not want it they can do things for themselves.
as a woman of courage and determination and sheer guts, doreen lawrence should get the nobel peace prize. after what that woman went through and still have the dignity she shows. she knows all about this kind of thing and the way to handle herself. she has my upmost respect.:thumbup:
Quote by Max777
John Terry has not got a leg to stand on. Nothing to debate other than the punishment he gets and I think it should be a ban for life from football.
The only thing that I have against Liverpool is how the name and reputation of a great Club is being tarnished by stubborn ignorance of the people currently at the top.
I don't really think that you believe that the Club is not responsible for its supporters - of course it is - legally and morally.
Kenny Dalgleish and his actions have resulted in great embarrassment to a great Club and the result will be an increasing focus on the Club and the supporters in the coming weeks. I personally believe that the idiot who has now been arrested somehow feels that he has done nothing wrong because he is within the bastions of fortress Anfield and the Reds will always look after themselves irrespective of right, or wrong. That mindset has come about because of the actions of Kenny Dalgleish and his stubborn support of Suarez and stupid things that he said on TV which were broadcast all over the world.
I don't have a problem with Liverpool. I do have a problem with the way that Liverpool are being managed today compared to their glorious past.

Do you really believe that Kenny Daglish and the team could have worn the t-shirts without the consent of those above Kenny?
And this would be the same Kenny Daglish that spent weeks visiting relatives and attending the funerals of those killed in the Hillsbrough disaster. The man who had to quit the club because he was emotionally drained by the experience.
I'm not even going to bother to comment on the rest of your post as it's utter tosh.

perfect max my thoughts exactly :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
shame Alex Ferguson isn't half the man Kenny dalglish is
Quote by Too Hot
John Terry has not got a leg to stand on. Nothing to debate other than the punishment he gets and I think it should be a ban for life from football.
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id like to point out that OJ Simpson was as guilty as they come but what happened with his trial
id also point out that the FA are no longer involved they have left it to a criminal investigation
which should terry do a OJ Simpson from then the FA will take no further action dunno
so i wouldn't`t count ya chickens just yet
id do like the rest of us and wait for the result wink
you certainly behave like a man utd supporter
I am a season ticket holder in a (at the moment) championship side, i have been going to professional football matches all my life since i was a child, i also go to watch amateur games, yesterday i went to an away FA cup game (i used to go regularily to away games but havnt for many years due to lack of spare money when i had my children.
I dont know how racism can be stopped or policed because its rife at all the games i go to and always has been, not by everyone but by a small minority .... as is sizism, sexism and various other abuse that goes on towards the players, coaches, managers, match officials etc but also to other spectators !
Not by me i hasten to add although i have been subject to it myself, im white and me and my children suffered racial abuse from a group of teenage asian girls at a family night football match for my home team some years ago ... nothing was done about it by the stewards even though they heard and saw the abuse and also we complained to them about it, i felt that nothing was done because it was asians abusing white people but i willl never know for sure the truth.
Yesterday at the FA cup match the policing was impressive (mainly because it was a home derby) but sadly still a lot of abuse was ignored by the stewards and police but to be fair im not sure how they could cope with removing everyone who was abusive in some form or other because it would take far more police to do that !
I think that if racism isnt allowed then also other abusive rants should be policed too. but this really isnt possible.
Somes times we can see and hear what the players say to each other during the game (i have got fairly good at lip reading smile ), but i cant think of any racial abuse in recent years though but plenty of other abusive language is used which i find just as offensive as racial abuse !
I cant see it ever being stamped out within either the players or spectators !
there are a couple of things i am finding hard to understand here, can anyone explain this to me.
firstly almost every video of this incident has been removed from you tube due to " copy write laws " dunno:dunno:
secondly the strangest one is this. when Oldham player Tom Adeyemi wlaked towrds the supporters at the kop end to get the ball obviusly things were being shouted at him, but then he turned away from that and started walking towards the center circle. he then walks i would guess about 15 yards before turning around again and then went nuts. now i have been to anfield many times and are peeple going to tel me that this one player heard one supporter scream abuse at him, in that stadium with that ammount of noise??
what reely? what 15 plus yards away? i beleeve that at the point he was closest to the fans he may have heard something, but when he was at his furthest point and turned, watch the crowds responce to this. how can he have heard one guys comments in that noise?
his reaction was wrong also. had he been allowed to run towards those peeple what would he have done? another cantonna? have many games was he banned for? his responce should have been to go straight to the ref, and let the ref deal with it. his reponce surely borders on inciting the crowd?
as the poster above has stated, this happens at every game. i have been many times this season alone and it happens at every game. the ref is abused, the players are abused, the managers are abused. not right i know but how the heck are you ever going to stop this from happening? this player must have had similar things aimed at him in the past a hundred times, and yet where do you think the maximum ammount of time would be given to it in this current climate? yes at liverpools ground itself.
would this player have reacted in the same way say had him teem been playing tamworth town? somehow after the last couple of weeks i would guess it would be a big no.
maximum exposure. cynical? yes sorry to say i am where this issue is concerned.:upset:
Maybe the player was a manchester united supporter looking to stick the knife in a bit deeper?
Stranger things..................
This is interesting for those who think that to use the " N " word, i dare not even mutter it, should never be uttered again, unless you are a black person of course.
i went out today to buy an ink cartridge for my canon printer. i went into my local asda store and brought a canon pixma 510 cartridge.
imagine my utter horror and shock to see this printed on the front packaging.
black/noir/schwarz/negro/nero
i have highlighted the word that some on here say we cannot use anymore. shall i report canon or shall i leeve it up to members on here to report it dunno
if they contact me via pm i can take a picture of this offending item for them to report. i wonder what canons take on it would be :dunno:
i can but guess though as i am sure others can.
so, should this word be allowed to be used to describe the word black? seems it has been used a few times of late to describe exactly what canon is describing.
I don't think this has anything to do with Suarez, I think this goes back to my original post which was about what effect Liverpool FC, it's management and other players would have on racism by openly supporting it with the T Shirts they wore, I think this incident shows what I said to be true, these are not just racist supporters of whom there are many at ALL clubs, but racist supporters who saw the T Shirt as a symbol of racism and wore thiers to show thier support for it.
Quote by MidsCouple24
I don't think this has anything to do with Suarez, I think this goes back to my original post which was about what effect Liverpool FC, it's management and other players would have on racism by openly supporting it with the T Shirts they wore, I think this incident shows what I said to be true, these are not just racist supporters of whom there are many at ALL clubs, but racist supporters who saw the T Shirt as a symbol of racism and wore thiers to show thier support for it.

everyone i know would say you are wrong on every single issue you raise above.
can i ask why you are so bothered by this? seems to me there are other issues here more than just the t shirt issue. come on be honest you are a secret liverpool fc hater.:notes:
the wearing of his shirt does not in no way make any of them secret racists. i am sorry but with views as one sided as yours, is it any wonder there are race problems. take it for what it was, support for a player in there eyes being wrongly accused of being a racist which they think he is not.:thumbup: even the black players or were they bribed in any way to show support dunno
Quote by starlightcouple
I don't think this has anything to do with Suarez, I think this goes back to my original post which was about what effect Liverpool FC, it's management and other players would have on racism by openly supporting it with the T Shirts they wore, I think this incident shows what I said to be true, these are not just racist supporters of whom there are many at ALL clubs, but racist supporters who saw the T Shirt as a symbol of racism and wore thiers to show thier support for it.

everyone i know would say you are wrong on every single issue you raise above.
can i ask why you are so bothered by this? seems to me there are other issues here more than just the t shirt issue. come on be honest you are a secret liverpool fc hater.:notes:
the wearing of his shirt does not in no way make any of them secret racists. i am sorry but with views as one sided as yours, is it any wonder there are race problems. take it for what it was, support for a player in there eyes being wrongly accused of being a racist which they think he is not.:thumbup: even the black players or were they bribed in any way to show support dunno
Support for a player wrongly accused you say, yet he admitted making the remarks, will they all now appologise then for supporting him in what he did ?
My views may be one sided, I am after all, one person and those are my views on the subject, I respect your right to have your own views, I simply found it offensive in light of what he did and I have to say a little confused as to why the FA did nothing about it after they have fined many other players from many other clubs at all levels of the league for wearing T Shirts under thier strips which have carried all sorts of "slogans" or "statements" in the past.
Quote by MidsCouple24
Support for a player wrongly accused you say, yet he admitted making the remarks, will they all now appologise then for supporting him in what he did ?

he admitted making the remark which he has stated lots of times that he did not think was offensive. blimey.
Quote by MidsCouple24
My views may be one sided, I am after all, one person and those are my views on the subject, I respect your right to have your own views, I simply found it offensive in light of what he did and I have to say a little confused as to why the FA did nothing about it after they have fined many other players from many other clubs at all levels of the league for wearing T Shirts under thier strips which have carried all sorts of "slogans" or "statements" in the past.

well you seem a clever person, the clues are in your own question. the fa can see what so many other saw, except a few and yourself of course.
come on be serious here. why do you think they took no action against other players INCLUDING black players who supported him? it is obvius to all except those who do not want to see. this was about being pc correct in taking action against a player who used the negro word or similar against evra, who is a liar took the action that the left wanted them to take and no more. they had made the point in fining and banning him. the other issue is irrelevant to them, but it is that very point which proves how much of a shit issue thios was from the start and a total waste of time. still evra got what he wanted i suppose.
Quote by starlightcouple
This is interesting for those who think that to use the " N " word, i dare not even mutter it, should never be uttered again, unless you are a black person of course.
i went out today to buy an ink cartridge for my canon printer. i went into my local asda store and brought a canon pixma 510 cartridge.
imagine my utter horror and shock to see this printed on the front packaging.
black/noir/schwarz/negro/nero
i have highlighted the word that some on here say we cannot use anymore. shall i report canon or shall i leeve it up to members on here to report it dunno
if they contact me via pm i can take a picture of this offending item for them to report. i wonder what canons take on it would be :dunno:
i can but guess though as i am sure others can.
so, should this word be allowed to be used to describe the word black? seems it has been used a few times of late to describe exactly what canon is describing.

Which just goes to show that any word can be both offensive or not offensive depending on which context it is used in, the word in this case is simply the name for Black when speaking Portugese or Spannish, put alongside the english, German and Italian versions of the word it is quite inoffensive.
Many words do not translate well, for example Poison in Germany means gift, would you be happy to be given gifts in Germany lol Better still would you like to walk in the mist, in Germany mist means dung wink
In the past many Companies around the world fell foul when exporting thier products to foreign markets, nowadays they do a little investigation before launching brands, which is why many of the products we knew had to be renamed as the words used here were found to be inapropriate in other Countries, Drifter, snickers, many household products were renamed.
Even in this Country words can mean different things in different areas, I remember as a boy being slapped for answering my mothers question of "how was school" with "crap", where I was born in Lancashire Crap meant shit, but at my school in the Midlands where we had moved to it simply meant rubbish, but my mother didn't know that.
There are of course worse things than what anyone did at Liverpool FC
If you want to see sick humour or reality try this site

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There are of course worse things than what anyone did at Liverpool FC
If you want to see sick humour or reality try this site

sorry i am not going to even bother to waste any more time over this issue,as i could find something on the internet that states the oppositre of what you state, also to argue with you as i have seen leeds you to calling me racist or the like, or moan about breaking the aup on here for merely mentioning a word fgs. it reely is bonkers.
i am afraid some peeple just make something out of nothing. take some of the peeple who whinge to the bbc about a swear word as an example.:notes:
i have just perved your pics mids and even though you are wrong, i can forgive you for anything after looking at the lovely mrs mids lol
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...... i have seen leeds ........

Thought this was a Liverpool issue, didn't know their old friends Leeds were having issues as well
lol
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...... i have seen leeds ........

Thought this was a Liverpool issue, didn't know their old friends Leeds were having issues as well
lol
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