U turn on school milk

9 Aug 2010

Is David Cameron micro managing the cabinet with this u-turn, or was he right to correct one of his ministers?
With School milk costing apparently £50 million a year, can we afford to keep it?
(on a personal note I think it is worth this for children's health)
Many were saying on the radio today that its a waist and much does not get drunk, but thrown down the drain!
Before we hear cries of Thatcher the milk snatcher, can I remind you the first person to snatch school milk from 11 to 18 year old's was Labours Harold Wilson in 1968. (as far as I can find)

9 Aug 2010

yuk...
I can still recall third pint bottles in crates up against the radiator in the classroom to get warmed.
The very thought of warm milk still makes me heave!
Still, perhaps the Cabinet were so privileged that they didn't have to suffer this imposition!

9 Aug 2010

I have herd this said lots today, yet I have found memories of the milk!

9 Aug 2010

Quote by Bluefish2009
I have herd this said lots today, yet I have found memories of the milk!

I found memories all over the classroom floor :mrgreen:

9 Aug 2010

Quote by GnV
I have herd this said lots today, yet I have found memories of the milk!

I found memories all over the classroom floor :mrgreen:
Oops redface

Fond

9 Aug 2010

Quote by GnV
yuk...
I can still recall third pint bottles in crates up against the radiator in the classroom to get warmed.
The very thought of warm milk still makes me heave!
Still, perhaps the Cabinet were so privileged that they didn't have to suffer this imposition!

what he said ^^
i never drank a drop at school

9 Aug 2010

And they say he's not a thatcherite.....Cameron,Cameron ,milk snatcher....doesn't really have the same ring does it

9 Aug 2010

Not worth it for children's health. If that was all that children need to be healthy, there would be no need for balanced diets. Might as well not bother - loads of it gets wasted because the kids don't want it.

9 Aug 2010

Invest the money in decent school meals I reckon.

9 Aug 2010

I just can't see how the cost has doubled in 5 years. The cost of milk has dropped. What's wrong with serving Asda milk with lunch? Just don't charge for it. It isn't rocket science.
But humans don't need cow's milk - it's just a convenient way to consume some fat and protein. Free fruit would be far more useful overall.

9 Aug 2010

Quote by Kaznkev
i think the money would be better spent extending the free fruit to the whole of primary we lived in Bolton many parents expressed surpise that their children would try fruit and veg.
Although Bens idea seems sensible too.
However the marketing of milk as a health food is a clever con.

Good points, Ben, Kaz, and Foxy

9 Aug 2010

The money will not be invested in anything it will serve to swell the coffers,so that HMG can accept derisory tax settlements from the likes of vodaphone....use your search engine...it's quite enlightening

10 Aug 2010

1000's of people are about to lose their jobs/careers due to government cut backs, Many more will be indirectly affected and suffer the same fate.
Save the £50 Million or reinvest it, I don't personally care. However please don't waste it on an antiquated and outdated freebie. It is the last chapter in the story of rationing and now needs to be brought to a close.

10 Aug 2010

As i said look at the vodafone tax settlement and then tell me about government cut backs....

50 million......chicken feed

11 Aug 2010

Quote by Staggerlee_BB
As i said look at the vodafone tax settlement and then tell me about government cut backs....

50 million......chicken feed

not good
but i think its a settlement based on how much the final legal bill would cost and could eventually cost the tax payer more money than 50 million if more legal battles were to continue
this isn't the fault of the government. it european law that's an ass and i very much doubt the government is any thing but happy about losing 50 million in an inherited battle that has probably already run into tens of millions

11 Aug 2010

Quote by GnV
yuk...
I can still recall third pint bottles in crates up against the radiator in the classroom to get warmed.
The very thought of warm milk still makes me heave!
Still, perhaps the Cabinet were so privileged that they didn't have to suffer this imposition!

This!! *vomits*
With those really thin blue straws! *shudders*
I've not drunk milk since. Full fat stuff was curdled in the summer and frozen solid in the winter! I use milk only when I have to now and never out of an already opened carton.
Actually I'm feeling a tad queasy just thinking about it. confused

To inflict that on kids is just plain wrong. Ditch it!

11 Aug 2010

Quote by Freckledbird
Not worth it for children's health. If that was all that children need to be healthy, there would be no need for balanced diets. Might as well not bother - loads of it gets wasted because the kids don't want it.

Actually FB I would say as a teacher your arguement sounds more realistic.
Schools nowadays use a much more healthy meal structures than they did in my day, and that also includes packed lunches as kids are not allowed to bring certain types of food into school now.
Having milk brought back in to me seems a total waste of money.
Is water now not more of a healthy option for kids, and cheaper?
Every morning I go into my local shop to see kids spending a couple of quid on bollox Mars bars and the like, to eat before they go into school. The parents must know this surely?
I do not know why everything has to fall at the schools feet, educate parents is where the money should go, but then again why any parent would need educating on what is healthy for their kids baffles me.

11 Aug 2010

Quote by Ben_welshminx
Invest the money in decent school meals I reckon.

:thumbup:
i hated it never drank it even under threat of punishment and i was not alone i'm sure kids are the same today as we were then so i feel the money could be much better spent like ben suggested

11 Aug 2010

Playground plans shelved under government spending cuts, sounds like another sensible idea, we all have to prioritise in this current financial climate

11 Aug 2010

So that would be a few more builders out of work then.

11 Aug 2010

It does say they have been frozen as part of government spending cuts to a £235m scheme inherited from Labour. Not sure if that means canceled.
But even so, we have to save money and can not keep spending money we do not have

11 Aug 2010

I dunno blue--I aint one of the educated types.
I thought spending yer way out of economic downturns was the modern way and am surprised that we are going back to the old ways is all.

11 Aug 2010

Quote by Ben_welshminx
I dunno blue--I aint one of the educated types.
I thought spending yer way out of economic downturns was the modern way and am surprised that we are going back to the old ways is all.

Like your self Ben, I am not educated, I do however know if I cant afford some thing I cant buy it though :sad:

11 Aug 2010

I dont think echonoomics at a national global level works like that. I will wait for a clever type to fill me in.

11 Aug 2010

Quote by Ben_welshminx
I dont think economics at a national global level works like that. I will wait for a clever type to fill me in.

Did not appear to work for the last Government!
As you say Ben, we await the worldly wise to advise us further wink

11 Aug 2010

Quote by Bluefish2009
I dunno blue--I aint one of the educated types.
I thought spending yer way out of economic downturns was the modern way and am surprised that we are going back to the old ways is all.

Like your self Ben, I am not educated, I do however know if I cant afford some thing I cant buy it though :sad:
Hmmm, so tell me.
If we can't afford playgrounds why have we promised tax cuts to companies for the next four years?

11 Aug 2010

Quote by awayman
I dunno blue--I aint one of the educated types.
I thought spending yer way out of economic downturns was the modern way and am surprised that we are going back to the old ways is all.

Like your self Ben, I am not educated, I do however know if I cant afford some thing I cant buy it though :sad:
Hmmm, so tell me.
If we can't afford playgrounds why have we promised tax cuts to companies for the next four years?
Feck me, I cant answer Bens question let alone yours.....
Could it be to help their cash flow so they might prosper and employ more people dunno

11 Aug 2010

Quote by Lizaleanrob
As i said look at the vodafone tax settlement and then tell me about government cut backs....

50 million......chicken feed

not good
but i think its a settlement based on how much the final legal bill would cost and could eventually cost the tax payer more money than 50 million if more legal battles were to continue
this isn't the fault of the government. it european law that's an ass and i very much doubt the government is any thing but happy about losing 50 million in an inherited battle that has probably already run into tens of millions
Where do you get 50 million from?? vodafone had put aside 2.2 billion for this...this government settled for bn....I make that just short of 1bn the government has thrown away...why was George Osborne prominently featuring vodafone in his recent trip to India ? (somewhere else vodafone owes a lot of tax to)...why if HMG is happy with bn are tax officials apparently furious at the settlement and the precedent it sets for other cases ?....all sounds like business as usual pile the cuts on those who can least afford and least deserve them use the proceeds to line the pockets of the multinationals to buy some nice big fat directorships....not a Thatcherite?....and my shit smells of roses....evils cunts these modern caring tories

11 Aug 2010

You sure your not Gulson in disguise? lol

11 Aug 2010

Quote by Bluefish2009
I dunno blue--I aint one of the educated types.
I thought spending yer way out of economic downturns was the modern way and am surprised that we are going back to the old ways is all.

Like your self Ben, I am not educated, I do however know if I cant afford some thing I cant buy it though :sad:
Hmmm, so tell me.
If we can't afford playgrounds why have we promised tax cuts to companies for the next four years?
Feck me, I cant answer Bens question let alone yours.....
Could it be to help their cash flow so they might prosper and employ more people dunno

Can I point you in the direction of my final line in the above post....I think it may hint at an answer