That is one of the reasons I never ever give to beggars, and my advice is never give to anyone begging in the street.
A poxy 100 quid fine?
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It is not uncommon!
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Quote by Dave__Notts
If people want to help then why not give to the charities that help on the ground instead. Giving to the individual will put the money in the drug pushers pocket.
Dave_Notts
Good suggestion, or buy the Big Issue. If you get to know the sellers you would spot any new ones just picking up spares to sell for drugs. The genuine sellers are clean and sober - they have ot be or they don't get to be sellers.
Quote by Dave__Notts
If people want to help then why not give to the charities that help on the ground instead. Giving to the individual will put the money in the drug pushers pocket.
Dave_Notts
Yes Davey have to agree.
I never give to scroungers and beggars on the street.
Whenever I see people doing that my first thought is...." go and get a fucking job ".
But why should they when they can scrounge off of decent people more money than they would earn working?
Plus it is relevant if the scrounger is also claiming benefits, or can he scrounge now as long as he does not scrounge for more than 16 hours a week? :twisted:
Quote by kentswingers777
If people want to help then why not give to the charities that help on the ground instead. Giving to the individual will put the money in the drug pushers pocket.
Dave_Notts
Yes Davey have to agree.
I never give to scroungers and beggars on the street.
Whenever I see people doing that my first thought is...." go and get a fucking job ".
But why should they when they can scrounge off of decent people more money than they would earn working?
Plus it is relevant if the scrounger is also claiming benefits, or can he scrounge now as long as he does not scrounge for more than 16 hours a week? :twisted:
Is that inclusive of Statutory Holidays and pro-rate annual leave payments in lieu?
Quote by kentswingers777
La le la le la le la.......
Just for you then Benny......
Why wait for tomorrow when today is good enough. :lol:
Oh look......a scrounging small businessman.....would you adam and eve it. Perhaps all small businessmen are scrounging, no-good for nothings.
Thanks for linking that Kenny. Now using your broad sweep, then that means all small businessmen are scroungers?
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Quote by Dave__Notts
La le la le la le la.......
Just for you then Benny......
Why wait for tomorrow when today is good enough. :lol:
Oh look......a scrounging small businessman.....would you adam and eve it. Perhaps all small businessmen are scrounging, no-good for nothings.
Thanks for linking that Kenny. Now using your broad sweep, then that means all small businessmen are scroungers?
Dave_Notts
Not sure about the business man, but the one in the carriage aint looking so good
Got me doubts he will ever walk again :dunno: 
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I wouldn't be so sure about that if I were you
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I wouldn't be so sure about that if I were you
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I wouldn't be so sure about that if I were you
She has a fantastic manicurist! Those nails would look much better in a rich red though
I haven't read the article and won't - media always pick up on the negative no matter what or whom its about.
As for street people - I have to say I haven't met a nicer bunch of polite people. Take the time to get to know them and your rewarded with a smile/good morning/help if needed etc You get the odd ones who aren't very nice but you get them in all walks of life.
Some are begging for money that is used for drugs yes, I won't depute that. Many aren't tho!
Some of these guys/women's life stories are horrendous, they die young and usually alone, its rare for anyone to attend their funerals, nobody picks up their ashes - they aren't missed! The funeral service is a few minutes and first on the list at 9am - if nobody turns up its a few words and the button pressed, forgotten forever. If they are in a hostel - not even a staff member attends. Most of the time any family they have don't know they have died. We have had 12 deaths in the local hostel this year - if it was a care home it would be investigated. Because they are street drinkers/users/big issue sellers etc its ignored!
We have a number that work voluntary with us doing odd jobs etc in return for being treated with respect, tea on tap, lunch, and to feel accepted and a part of society. They are a few rules, don't turn up drunk, stoned or with a can/bottle of drink etc. It keeps them off the streets doing something worthwhile and they turn up on time, normally before I'm in
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Some truly want to turn their lives around and aren't always given the opportunity because they are seen as the dregs of society.
Don't write them all off because of one headline, they are some good people out there! Next time you see someone begging - smile and say good morning instead of walking by!
As for street people - I have to say I haven't met a nicer bunch of polite people. Take the time to get to know them and your rewarded with a smile/good morning/help if needed etc You get the odd ones who aren't very nice but you get them in all walks of life.
Some are begging for money that is used for drugs yes, I won't depute that. Many aren't tho!
Some of these guys/women's life stories are horrendous, they die young and usually alone, its rare for anyone to attend their funerals, nobody picks up their ashes - they aren't missed! The funeral service is a few minutes and first on the list at 9am - if nobody turns up its a few words and the button pressed, forgotten forever. If they are in a hostel - not even a staff member attends. Most of the time any family they have don't know they have died. We have had 12 deaths in the local hostel this year - if it was a care home it would be investigated. Because they are street drinkers/users/big issue sellers etc its ignored!
We have a number that work voluntary with us doing odd jobs etc in return for being treated with respect, tea on tap, lunch, and to feel accepted and a part of society. They are a few rules, don't turn up drunk, stoned or with a can/bottle of drink etc. It keeps them off the streets doing something worthwhile and they turn up on time, normally before I'm in
:? Some truly want to turn their lives around and aren't always given the opportunity because they are seen as the dregs of society.
Don't write them all off because of one headline, they are some good people out there! Next time you see someone begging - smile and say good morning instead of walking by!
Orgasminator
Food for thought Anais. Its good to be reminded.
Quote by Kaznkev
Anais,
Hi Kev here,I read this thread with a growing sinking feeling,the usual knee jerk reactions to those who have already hit rock post was a beacon of humanity .
To those who could never imagine themselves in this situation,neither could most rough one starts as a child thinking i want to be a drug user,prostitute ,rough sleeper,victim of assault.
Whether people give money is a personal decision,i do, but giving respect costs nothing.
I will now return to keyboard to its usual owner!
Totally with ya on that one :thumbup:
:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: When I worked with the homeless, our local CAB got post codes allocated to park benches solely so that homeless folk could get basic health care.
Quote by anais
As for street people - I have to say I haven't met a nicer bunch of polite people. Take the time to get to know them and your rewarded with a smile/good morning/help if needed etc You get the odd ones who aren't very nice but you get them in all walks of life.
:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
Some of these guys/women's life stories are horrendous, they die young and usually alone, its rare for anyone to attend their funerals, nobody picks up their ashes - they aren't missed! The funeral service is a few minutes and first on the list at 9am - if nobody turns up its a few words and the button pressed, forgotten forever. If they are in a hostel - not even a staff member attends. Most of the time any family they have don't know they have died. We have had 12 deaths in the local hostel this year - if it was a care home it would be investigated. Because they are street drinkers/users/big issue sellers etc its ignored!
I had never thought of that its a very upsetting thought.
Don't write them all off because of one headline, they are some good people out there! Next time you see someone begging - smile and say good morning instead of walking by!
:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
Quote by Dave__Notts
Perhaps you should get someone to blow on the hot milk for you if you manage to hurt yourself while eating cornflakes...............or was it the sharp edges
Dave_Notts
Yeah some things are hard to swallow!!!
Thats why people learn to chew
Dave_Notts
So what about the ones who have no teeth? :wink:
My dear old Gran had no teeth, difficult to chew with just gums. :wink:
Quote by kentswingers777
Perhaps you should get someone to blow on the hot milk for you if you manage to hurt yourself while eating cornflakes...............or was it the sharp edges
Dave_Notts
Yeah some things are hard to swallow!!!
Thats why people learn to chew
Dave_Notts
So what about the ones who have no teeth? :wink:
My dear old Gran had no teeth, difficult to chew with just gums. :wink:
Suck longer
......................or get someone to chew it for you :gagged: Dave_Notts
Quote by Dave__Notts
Perhaps you should get someone to blow on the hot milk for you if you manage to hurt yourself while eating cornflakes...............or was it the sharp edges
Dave_Notts
Yeah some things are hard to swallow!!!
Thats why people learn to chew
Dave_Notts
So what about the ones who have no teeth? :wink:
My dear old Gran had no teeth, difficult to chew with just gums. :wink:
Suck longer
......................or get someone to chew it for you :gagged: Dave_Notts
The mere thought of that.......................yuk.
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Suck longer
Dave_Notts
The mere thought of that.......................yuk.
Where is the cringe and stamp your feet emoticon..............I apologise for that thought entering your head at this time in the morning
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