minx, it doesnt matter hun, you gave an opinion of experience from both sides
(I thought I had killed the forum then with my choice of topic!!)
I dont think it should be used as a contraceptive over and over again, because people are to lazy to take other precautions, not when there are so many available options for contraception.
I think the law as it stands is fine.
I think the definitions are applied appalingly badly by most doctors.
I think this was done not so long ago Boney and from what I can recall it got quite heated ....
but anyway...
I'm open minded when it comes to abortion. It depends on the situation. If abortion is used as simply 'birth control' then it's disgraceful and should be nipped in the bud. If however theres detriment to the woman's mental or physical wellbeing then it's a different story.
Personally, I think abortion should remain where it is for the 'choice' factor BUT should be reduced, I still think the horror a woman has to go through at 24 weeks is not one I would wish on anyone (and no thankfully I'm not talking from experience).
I really enjoyed the 'smacking ban' thread and enjoyed reading a good debate full of lots of interesting and valid points. Yes it got a little hairy in some places, but on the whole, it was refreshing to see a mature, non sexual thread.
I am pleased you enjoy this thread I am pretty new to the forums and was told how well it ran. Although it was a bit heated at times. I like a good debate and have found the forum really interesting. Hope this one runs so well, although a very sensative subect.
I would just like to add that I am 90% against abortion! But there are always exceptions
My personal opinion is that it's something that really is only the business of the people in the situation. I don't think it's a decision the state or church has a right to make for people, which I guess means that I think it should be allowed.
I have no personal experience of this situation. I think if I did unexpectedly impregnate someone, I probably wouldn't want them to have an abortion; but then I'm 29 and I'm not likely to date anyone under, say, 21 or 22; in other words people into the (hopefully) self-sustaining phase of life.
If I did somehow impregnate a 16-year-old I can really understand how at that age you'd not want to become responsible for another human being, when you're not even ready to be responsible for yourself. And I'd want to not become a parent if I felt that I was not in a position to do it properly. I can understand also that I might feel that I didn't want to bring another person into the world if I was not sure that I could give them the best possible start. I know that if I was looking down the barrel of seeing all my plans for my life get totally wiped out before I'd had a chance to get started I'd really want to do something about that.
Above all though I understand that I can never feel the full weight of that decision without having to make it myself. Never having had to make it, I don't feel I have the right to make it on behalf of other people. I know friends who have taken both options, some having abortions and some, at a very young age, deciding to bring up the child, and I respect both decisions.
I don't think it's something that should be undertaken lightly, but then I think it probably very rarely is. I think it should be there as an option though.
My involvement with abortions was in my early 20's. We were scared and it was a welcome relief to know we were let off the hook. Back then in the mids 70's it was still something of a problem, and would have meant some very embarrassing compromises.
I regret that I had to make those decisions, but I have kids now and often wonder how I would have been by starting way back then.
Contraception is usually the first thing we think about when contemplating sex. But maybe taking precautions needs to be considered alonside taking responsibility and being prepared for life as well. That consideration is more important than avoiding life.
i went against my views on this a couple of months ago still quite a sore subject though and a lot of guilt
I fully believe in a womans right to choose.
I do however think the gestational age that you can abort an unborn baby should be lower. A baby born prematurley at say 22/23 weeks can survive with medical intervention yet you can still abort a baby upto 24 weeks which doesn`t make sense to me.
I also think that it should be easier to access early abortions at say 8 weeks. I have know people who have made the decision to have a termination only to have to wait upto two weeks to get an appointment at the clinicto have a consultation to then have to wait upto another two weeks to have the procedure done.
I believe (and please correct me if I am wrong) that there are less complications when you have an earlier abortion.
I believe in the womans right to choose. I also believe in responsibility.
Women and men can choose to accept the risk of an unwanted pregnancy. You choose to do this when u engage in sex for fun.
If an unintended pregnancy occurs there are then other people who have rights, including in my view the father and the unborn child. The mother and the father have responsponsibilities too. The child has no responsibilities. At this point I stop believing in the mothers right to choose.
Sadly the unborn child has only "society" "government" etc to help him or her exercise those rights.
I believe the right of that child to life needs to be balanced against the rights of the woman carrying that baby. I believe taking away the life of that child is a pretty big thing to do. The impact of carrying that child to term on the mothers well being is big too.
I can think of very few circumstances where I would decide the mothers rights would be sufficient to deprive somebody of their life. Obviously there are exceptions.
I realise that many many people regard "people" as those who have survived birth. I do not hold that view.
I realise I sound like a right wing zealot. Im not I just have my own views and decided to share them as this thread existed. I make no judgement of those who do not share my views.
we were only discussing this last week me and a few friends.......
someone my friend knows has just had a baby and she is planning on going to the CSA to get money off the father, she has text him alway through the pregnancy to keep him upto date with things...
Just over a year ago she was seeing this guy and she was on the pill anyway 2 months later she finds out she is pregnant and the man says he didnt and still doesnt want a child and they seperate, he continued to say he didnt want anything to do with the unborn child and now many months later he is going to have a percentage of his wage taken off him for something he didnt want.
my views on this are that if he said he didnt want anything to do with the whole situation at that early stage then maybe she should have respected his views and if she chose to have the baby then she was choosing to do it alone.
Going back to my point earlier on. Most of us begin our adult lives, capable of producing a family but educated away from it and frightened of its challenges. Abortion is just seen as an option, after the event, to promote the culture of delayed family rearing.
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Whatever way round you went you'll be needing that. GUILT? ....you're a Mother, did'nt you read in the handbook small print???
You shouldn't have a damn emoticon 10ft down the page!!! :kick:
