Kent, it's 'article'. You spell it so often, at least do it properly!
yet again another moan at this country and its systems....
and yet again another misrepresentation of the true position and issues in the case...
If we are going to debate these issues then surely having some understanding of them would help.
European judges ruled that his detention without trial breached his human rights.... they awarded the money... against Britain!!! as a result of Britains failings to respect Human Rights.
He lost the latest round of his UK legal battle to stay in Britain..... therefore doesnt this show that the British system is not protecting him anymore and was prepared to keep him locked up without trial for as long as possible. Again, I see this as a fault of the British system
He won a separate case in the European Court of Human Rights that his detention under anti-terror laws introduced by the Government after the 2001 attacks on America violated the Human Rights Convention...... Threfore, this goes someway to show that the British law breached Human rights and requires sometime intervention to protect the rights of all those living here...
Countries /governments cant just hold people without trial without producing a case!!! Even though they wish to.
They have done away with the right to silence, reasonable suspicion to make arrest lawful etc and would do anything to make the trial system easier for law enforcement, and harder for the member of the public.
I think people just see these articles involving Moslems, compensation and the courts and write their own script..... highly dangerous and a reminder to us all to do a little research and assimalate facts in our own minds before harping on about the way things should or shouldnt be.... at the risk of being likened to a Nazi....
I mean, if your gonna lambast the system ... at least pick examples that work.... ill informed reports on apparently light sentencing and Human Rights issues simply wont cut it.
if you guys think that is lunacy .... I can actually beat that today....
I think it is more to do with the general sense of "blame culture" than is to do with any particular country.....
Was this chap actually convicted of something?
Of course the guy is completly innocent of everything, except inciting hatred, and believed to be involved in terrorist organising.
oh Kent i bet you would be good at inciting hatred oh and spouting ill informed Bollox!!!
The thing is the law is wrong, that has to be changed, but until it is, the man has a right to go to The European Court, and appeal.
Even a man who has come in to our country illegally has rights.
That is just the way it is, the system in place has to be changed.
As for the money, of course that is a joke, but again, its the system that needs changing.
I saw today that 2 over zealous BACS from Westboro Baptist church, were not allowed into Britian, as it is deemed their anti gay mouths spewing venom and calling for gays to be killed, unacceptable to be spoken over here, and righly so!
Just more people trying to spout off madness and cause division and unrest in Britian.
Well done on that one!
Ah so Kent are you stating the majority is always right then? A majority is usually someone with the biggest following and at the time of the Nazis in Germany Hitler had the majority so i guess your saying he was right.
Reading your posts yes you do have an opinion and god help anyone who has a different one to you very much a case of he who shouts the longest and the loudest.
If Britain is so bad why are you still here? where would you go that is som much better and as you have so many opinions about all the things that are wrong are you personally doing anything about them???
There are men and women like me who fight all over the world in the Marines and Raf and Army for Britain, it really is a good job we dont hold your opinions on our country and how poor it is or we just would not bother would we? leaving you where?
Answer in a completely law less state where there are no human rights for anybody, where the majority think they are right and to hell with the minority, where torture,stoning and hangings are handed out without a fair trial!
I am not sticking up for the guy i have seen what the Taliban and Bin Laden are all capable of but a guy can not be hung for spouting what is only his OPINION and his beliefs, otherwise your in trouble one day Kent cos he is only doing what you do, all be it you have a much smaller following.
So the guy has not been to court or tried by his peers.........yet he is guilty of what? If this country has enough evidence then they should proceed to court, if not then they should release the person or face a civil case and lose......just like what has happened.
Dave_Notts
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The debate is about this guy and British and European legislation