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I think Keeno was making some valid points in his first post. Since I started 'swinging' some 20 years ago I have managed to make more contacts off site or outside of contact magazines - as they were. As to profiles it seems if you are honest in what you can offer you come across as arrogant and if you take a laid back approach then you get ignored also. cool
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So, are you saying people check out your profile before opening a PM?

I often do. Quite a few PMs I've had in the past have lead to further "What did you think?" "Sorry you haven't replied" etc etc PMs just from opening them.
Ooooo I hadn't really thought about that happening confused
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So, are you saying people check out your profile before opening a PM?

I often do. Quite a few PMs I've had in the past have lead to further "What did you think?" "Sorry you haven't replied" etc etc PMs just from opening them.
Ooooo I hadn't really thought about that happening confused
Last week I placed a very brief advert seeking a man that's into strapon fun. I say briefly because the ammount of replies!
My usual routine is to go through them and read them before responding to any.
I'm not kidding, 5 minutes after opening a particular one I had a gentleman "Begging me to reconsider". :?
Also it's quite amusing when people don't get a response (usually they've only sent a one-liner) then realise that writing "I want to lick your pussy for hours and have a spunky time" isn't going to work because now they have actually read my profile and send me another PM minutes later offering to suck my 'cock'. :doh: lol
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So, are you saying people check out your profile before opening a PM?

I often do. Quite a few PMs I've had in the past have lead to further "What did you think?" "Sorry you haven't replied" etc etc PMs just from opening them.
Ooooo I hadn't really thought about that happening confused
Last week I placed a very brief advert seeking a man that's into strapon fun. I say briefly because the ammount of replies!
My usual routine is to go through them and read them before responding to any.
I'm not kidding, 5 minutes after opening a particular one I had a gentleman "Begging me to reconsider". :?
Also it's quite amusing when people don't get a response (usually they've only sent a one-liner) then realise that writing "I want to lick your pussy for hours and have a spunky time" isn't going to work because now they have actually read my profile and send me another PM minutes later offering to suck my 'cock'. :doh: lol
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jeez you don't 'alf get them hun kiss
Oh I always do, especially if I get a wink as the person may have just gone down the list sending winks out to 20 women that day in the hope of getting a reply cause they can't be arsed to look .. check out and chose a woman cause they like her. Rather like fishing with a trawler net ... then they throw the ones they don't like back in the sea. I have learnt from replying to winks in the vain hope its someone really interested in me, to find out I am just a number and when I answer, either I get mail asking me if I can meet on the moors bent over the bonnet of my car type answers or ignored once I say I want friendship. In the end one becomes too discouraged to bother answering or even looking as you know its a waste of time. I've tended to concentrate more on the men who post here, as at least you get some idea of what the man is like before you approach him and hope for a favourable and reasonable response back.
If I sent you some of the mail I get you would understand ... and sorry about my previous post to you ... its alright folks I've calmed down now and Keeno and I have signed a peace treaty together so not announcing world war three after all lol
DD
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So, are you saying people check out your profile before opening a PM?
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Also it's quite amusing when people don't get a response (usually they've only sent a one-liner) then realise that writing "I want to lick your pussy for hours and have a spunky time" isn't going to work because now they have actually read my profile and send me another PM minutes later offering to suck my 'cock'. :doh: lol

Yeah Kiss well you will be so inconsiderate about not having a cock .. really .. they'll just have to settle for sucking your tits instead won't they wink
DD :giggle:
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So, are you saying people check out your profile before opening a PM?

I often do. Quite a few PMs I've had in the past have lead to further "What did you think?" "Sorry you haven't replied" etc etc PMs just from opening them.
Ooooo I hadn't really thought about that happening confused
More recently I check out peoples posts in the forum as well. In most cases there are none but in your case keeno you have a sig, that if someone comes to it without knowing the nature of the place, may make you sound a bit scary :scared:
To be honest, I find it a bit scary !! redface surprisedops:
Scarey but true
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I've just been hit by a massive wave of apathy. It happened will I was half way through typing a reply to an advert.
I'd done the usual search. Found an ad that interested me. Checked the profile made sure I fitted the bill and began to type. Then it hit me. Why should I bother doing this? It wasn't as if I would get a reply. Why spend time composing a witty but informative piece about myself, which in all likelyhood wouldn't even be opened. I stopped typing and came here for some advice.
Is this apathy normal?
Is it something I should worry about?
Has it happened to someone else and how did they cope?

Don't give up Keeno. She's definately out there waiting for you. You don't know who she is yet, she's probably miles away, it will take you ages to find her............ but it's a start!!!!
I found this thread very interesting, it never occured to me to send another pm after it was read. To me that would be just plain rude if they are interested they will reply.
Or as DD mentioned a guy sending out 20+ winks in the hope that something might happen, that stikes me as desperation. A friend of mine was single and not had sex for about 18 months and even I could see he had a metaphorical tattoo on his forehead saying shag me im desperate and of course all the girls left him alone.
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As a single male who doesn't look like Brad Pitt, I now think it is a waste of time replying to adverts - just too much competition!! redface

Well they wont come to you....
Only other way is to chat to people and get to know them ....
This is what I find works best - the chat room. I've gotten to know so many people, not just within the confines of the Midlands Room on Server 3, but from all over. If people want to meet me one to one, or come over to talk to me in person at a Munch/Social as a result of chatting then that's great.
I have tried replying to adverts, but in the grand scheme of things realise that single women and couples just have far too many responses to their adverts to expect a reply to mine.
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If people want to meet me one to one, or come over to talk to me in person at a Munch/Social as a result of chatting then that's great.

Some people run in a different direction :giggle:
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If people want to meet me one to one, or come over to talk to me in person at a Munch/Social as a result of chatting then that's great.

Some people run in a different direction :giggle:
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We advertise occasionally for single guys and to be honest we only reply to those that appear of interest. In other words 95% of mails to us do not get a reply.
This may seem unduly unfair to the single guys who have made the effort to reply to us but if you are a couple advertising for single guys you will know just how many responses you try to deal with.
From our point of view we look first at the picture and then at the text. The very best reponses in our view would have a good clear face pic and a full body naked shot. If we like the look of the pic we will read the text and anything with a bit of humour and obvious reference to our ad and profile would stand a good chance of getting a reply - but generally the vast majority fall down at the first stage which is the picture. Many may say that they don't want their face picture being seen for this or that reason, but there are guys who do and they get ahead of the pack immediately.
It is an unfortunate fact that if your picture shows you to be unkept, scruffy, fat, skinny or generally just looking a bit odd (to us) then we just delete the reply.
Mr Hot reckons that if he were single he would compose a really good standard response with a bit of saucy humour in it - not too pusy and not too desperate and use it as the basis for all of his replies adding a few personal touches at the beginning and end to show that the ad and profile had been read and fully understood.
By the way - I can't speak for other couples - but we get a huge number of clearly bogus reponses with fake pictures (stills from films) and occasionally where the pictures don't even match up. This is why we act so abruptly in dealing with replies. We would always ask any guy to send a picture to our private email holding up the days newspaper, or displaying a pre-agreed gesture.
If you are a good and normal guy with a reasonable sense of humour looking for threesome fun with a couple then you ought to be able to find it on here if you are patient and ddon't take no replies personally - just persevere. We have met a couple of times off here from guys who responded to our ad - and intend to do more - !!
When I send a PM I always include a pic but it has my face slightly masked but enough to get an idea, if they are intersted then I would happily send the full one, as is said you have to send out a lot of PM's to get a result as a single guy so would rather not have that many of me out there.
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We advertise occasionally for single guys and to be honest we only reply to those that appear of interest. In other words 95% of mails to us do not get a reply.
This may seem unduly unfair to the single guys who have made the effort to reply to us but if you are a couple advertising for single guys you will know just how many responses you try to deal with.
From our point of view we look first at the picture and then at the text. The very best reponses in our view would have a good clear face pic and a full body naked shot. If we like the look of the pic we will read the text and anything with a bit of humour and obvious reference to our ad and profile would stand a good chance of getting a reply - but generally the vast majority fall down at the first stage which is the picture. Many may say that they don't want their face picture being seen for this or that reason, but there are guys who do and they get ahead of the pack immediately.
It is an unfortunate fact that if your picture shows you to be unkept, scruffy, fat, skinny or generally just looking a bit odd (to us) then we just delete the reply.
Mr Hot reckons that if he were single he would compose a really good standard response with a bit of saucy humour in it - not too pusy and not too desperate and use it as the basis for all of his replies adding a few personal touches at the beginning and end to show that the ad and profile had been read and fully understood.
By the way - I can't speak for other couples - but we get a huge number of clearly bogus reponses with fake pictures (stills from films) and occasionally where the pictures don't even match up. This is why we act so abruptly in dealing with replies. We would always ask any guy to send a picture to our private email holding up the days newspaper, or displaying a pre-agreed gesture.
If you are a good and normal guy with a reasonable sense of humour looking for threesome fun with a couple then you ought to be able to find it on here if you are patient and ddon't take no replies personally - just persevere. We have met a couple of times off here from guys who responded to our ad - and intend to do more - !!

Now we know! Sorry but I wouldn't do the newspaper thing - don't like couples or females who think they are doing me some sort of favour! lol
Well unfortunately, the way of the world is that men are seen to be sexually predatory and the vast majority of fake identities on this web site whether they be male, couples or female - will actually be men looking for some kind of weirdo gratification.
We regard any male or couple who join us for a bit of intimate fun as doing us a favour and if we doing them a favour too then so much the merrier.
Don't wish to sound patronising, but standing the high moral ground and standing by your principles means that you will probably never get the opportunity to change the wording in your profile from 'no experience' to 'experienced.' Sometimes you need to go the extra yard to get what you want and just consider the fears, worries and apprehenions of the people you are trying to connect with.
BTW - the newspaper thing is not about doing us a favour - it is basic security precautions. Pictures on this site can come from anywhere. But, if as part of our response to their reply, we ask someone to send us a picture to our private email holding up three fingers, or the days paper or similar then we are only verifying that the guy is real - especially if the picture matches the SH profile picture - and amzaingly it doesn't always!!
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Well unfortunately, the way of the world is that men are seen to be sexually predatory and the vast majority of fake identities on this web site whether they be male, couples or female - will actually be men looking for some kind of weirdo gratification.
We regard any male or couple who join us for a bit of intimate fun as doing us a favour and if we doing them a favour too then so much the merrier.
Don't wish to sound patronising, but standing the high moral ground and standing by your principles means that you will probably never get the opportunity to change the wording in your profile from 'no experience' to 'experienced.' Sometimes you need to go the extra yard to get what you want and just consider the fears, worries and apprehenions of the people you are trying to connect with.
BTW - the newspaper thing is not about doing us a favour - it is basic security precautions. Pictures on this site can come from anywhere. But, if as part of our response to their reply, we ask someone to send us a picture to our private email holding up three fingers, or the days paper or similar then we are only verifying that the guy is real - especially if the picture matches the SH profile picture - and amzaingly it doesn't always!!

Can say that you must have a faker magnet somewhere in your house as we have never met anyone who looked different to a pic they have supplied us....
And I wouldnt do the newspaper thing either...
Sorry but I have been swinging since I was 18 - nearly 20 years. Please don't take my profile seriously because I don't - I manage to meet enough people off site - for want of a better term. So am not relying on SH for my sex life - thank god! Not sure what you would have done pre-internet when contact magazine adverts meant you only had photos to go by. And surprisingly those meets used to -in the vast majority of cases - work out fine! lol
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Can say that you must have a faker magnet somewhere in your house as we have never met anyone who looked different to a pic they have supplied us....
And I wouldnt do the newspaper thing either...

Taking the measures that we do, we have never met anyone who looked different to their picture.
It is our choice to be careful and use our own precautions and others may choose not be. Besides, we only ask for the pic if they can't appear on a webcam.
Each to their own.
I got fed up of trawling through the ads like you so I'm just having a break. I'd rather post on the forums and chat to a few people - then when I feel like doing the ad thing again I probably will.
Don't stress over it, it's meant to be fun after all. lol
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I got fed up of trawling through the ads like you so I'm just having a break. I'd rather post on the forums and chat to a few people - then when I feel like doing the ad thing again I probably will.
Don't stress over it, it's meant to be fun after all. lol

Having a break after just 2 weeks :shock:
No stamina some folk :giggle:
Point taken but I can't be on here firing messages off all the time can I?
This is fun but it's not going to take over my life! lol
Good thinking that man! lol
The problem with so many ads and profiles is that they're so vague about what they're looking for. These people must get hundreds of replies - some well thought out and written, and plenty from the cut-and-paste or "look at the size of my knob, fancy a fuck?" brigade.
We placed an ad 1 week ago looking for a select bunch of guys. We have been very specific about what we want / don't want, what we like /don't like, etc.
We also state in our ad and profile that we're only looking for guys who can make that specific date, and that we will delete any replies from people who haven't read the ad fully. For the ones who do read it, we give them an easy way to demonstrate the fact as soon as we see their email in our inbox.
Results so far? Around 50 emails have been deleted straight away without us replying. Only about 15 replies from guys who read the profile - all of which we've replied to saying 'yes please' or 'no thanks'.
We must have cut out a large proportion of replies by being so specific in our ad, and get 50+ emails in a week. Ads who don't really say what type of guy they're looking for, or who don't have a specific date set to meet must get 50+ a day!!? We can understand the apathy about not getting replies, but when there's that sort of volume of mail you can bet the majority of it is going to go straight in the bin.
A sad fact of life unfortunately, and the law of 'supply and demand' in action. rolleyes
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And very nice it is to :rascal:
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You mean you didn't read all the AUP fully and act accordingly? rotflmao
Sorry couldn't resist.
Yeah I saw your advert, even got as far as the part where you have to write a particular line in the subject field etc.
But had doubts about pressing send when you asked for real males. Damn it! lol
Have fun!
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And very nice it is to :rascal:
Thanks Keeno smile
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You mean you didn't read all the AUP fully and act accordingly? rotflmao
Sorry couldn't resist.
Yeah I saw your advert, even got as far as the part where you have to write a particular line in the subject field etc.
But had doubts about pressing send when you asked for real males. Damn it! lol
Have fun!

We must have been too busy deleting emails to read the AUP, Kiss wink