I got stopped in the street the other day by someone collecting for charity and when I refused to donate they had the cheek to ask "why not".
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Charity blackmail?
looking from the other side I used to work at a shleter which didn't actively seek donations just relied on people knowing it was there and that it needed money to carry on. The end result was the bank almost closing it down. It wasn't until the person who was running it all bit the bullet and paid someone to "market" the shelter that donations started to flood in. Whilst on an open forum people might say "I give to charity" in reality most do not......
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I work for a cancer charity and we only get 30% of our annual income from the Govt, the remainder comes from donations, gift aid and fundraising events. Last year we had to raise £100million to keep caring for our 25,000 patients in the UK.
Yes I agree the adverts DO pull on the heartstrings but isn't it a sad state of affairs that they HAVE to?
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People realizing that they have compassion for others is a good thing, even if it does hit their wallet. So why get upset with the charities, just for reminding one that there are people out there, sick etc.
Would it be better to add 1% to income tax and give it to charity? I do not know. It would take away personal choice.
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I work for a cancer charity and we only get 30% of our annual income from the Govt, the remainder comes from donations, gift aid and fundraising events. Last year we had to raise £100million to keep caring for our 25,000 patients in the UK.
Yes I agree the adverts DO pull on the heartstrings but isn't it a sad state of affairs that they HAVE to?
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People realizing that they have compassion for others is a good thing, even if it does hit their wallet. So why get upset with the charities, just for reminding one that there are people out there, sick etc.
Would it be better to add 1% to income tax and give it to charity? I do not know. It would take away personal choice.
The only thing that upsets me is that these charities have to fight so hard to raise the money to help these people, whether it's cancer, children, Alzheimers, animals or whatever. Personally, that NSPCC advert upsets me too much to watch it but that's the idea. It worked and I've added it to the number of charities that I donate to each month. Trouble is, there's only so much we've all got and only so much we can give away.
I'm not sure about adding 1% to income tax but I really do think the Govt needs to reassess its' priorities when allocating the revenue.
Some one mentioned raising income tax to pay for charities, as far as I am aware donations to charity are tax deductable upto a certain amount, just get a receipt and claim it back off the tax man.
As for my opinion on the adverts, I think they are emotional blackmail designed to make us feel bad and dig into our pockets. Oh an the tin rattlers are not allowed to stop you and ask for donations, they can shake their tins and try get your attention, if they ask for money they are in fact begging and can be reported.
In an ideal world we shouldn't need charities but it is not and charities do a marvelous job.
As for my opinion on the adverts, I think they are emotional blackmail designed to make us feel bad and dig into our pockets. Oh an the tin rattlers are not allowed to stop you and ask for donations, they can shake their tins and try get your attention, if they ask for money they are in fact begging and can be reported.
In an ideal world we shouldn't need charities but it is not and charities do a marvelous job.
its what these charitys have to do these days i only support certain ones children and cancer are 2 i do support
i disagree id rather know that a child has had a couple of happy years within a family home rather than them staying in foster homes etc just because they discriminate about size and health and smoking etc
many parents are smokers and overweight does this make them bad parents?? would it make them love the child any less ?? things happen and theres nothing stopping an average weight non smoker getting knocked over by a bus any more than there is of an overwight smoker dieing of their ailments
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The issue of fat smokers is also relevant, you want a child to cope with yet another loss in their lives as a parent or parents dies young cause of health problems. They will have enough issues around loss as it is without giving them anymore.
i disagree id rather know that a child has had a couple of happy years within a family home rather than them staying in foster homes etc just because they discriminate about size and health and smoking etc
many parents are smokers and overweight does this make them bad parents?? would it make them love the child any less ?? things happen and theres nothing stopping an average weight non smoker getting knocked over by a bus any more than there is of an overwight smoker dieing of their ailments
Having read through this thread i can see the pro's and cons from each side where some say its a good thing to let people know the truth and others feel its to hard hitting, personally my opinion is these adds should be at least shown later at night, the other day my 6 year old daughter was watching the tv and that advert came on for the NSPCC, in the middle of the day, on a childs channel on cable, the one where the little girls playing with her teddy on the way home and she keeps saying click, after the advert my daughter asked why did she keep saying click?, so i said she was just playing a game with her teddy so again she asked but why did she keep saying click? and why was she crying??, what are you supposed to say to a 6 year old child?? ok so i agree these things need to come to light in order to help children but do they really need to show such adverts in childrens cannels? personally i dont want my child watching such things i dont feel shes ready to know about stuff like that, my child my choice, but how am i supposed to protect her when they showing it on prime time TV? and if they trying to protect children why do they feel the need to show things like that on a kids channel so children who are looked after and loved in a way children are supposed to be have to know about it too?? other children cant help so why target them with the adverts?
For the reasons i've stated above
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.how can u dream of censoring such advertising?
For the reasons i've stated above
once upon a time there was a child who was regularly touched by her daddy. Her daddy told her that all daddies did that to their children and she should stop crying when he did it to her. She learnt that at night when she was sleeping he would come into her room and put his fingers inside her foo foo and his winky in her mouth. She knew, because he told her, that all daddies did that to their daughters and she had to be quiet and not tell anyone especially her mummy.
For many years this went on and she said nothing and did nothing as that is what happened. She even learnt to take her head away to all the special places that she read about in books.
One day she saw an advert where she learnt that these bad things shouldn't happen to anyone and her daddy was actually not a good daddy but he was a bad daddy. Even though he bought her loads of nice things and he told her so many times that he loved her. All her friends thought he was a great daddy and wanted him as their own.
As soon as she told someone her daddy was taken away and he was sent to prison. Her mummy was really unhappy that she hadn't told her and she sometimes thought that she really shouldn't have told as her dad was right her mummy wasn't happy. What she didn't know for years and years was that her mummy was unhappy that she hadn't told her sooner and her mummy infact felt like she had let her down.
if those adverts get the charities more money brilliant. If they prevent one child being ignorant about what is happening to them brilliant. If it educates people (not matter what age) about what is happening to people all over the world and in their streets and neighbourhoods then fantastic.
if it makes you feel guilty-tough. We can all do more and give more.
Splendid
For many years this went on and she said nothing and did nothing as that is what happened. She even learnt to take her head away to all the special places that she read about in books.
One day she saw an advert where she learnt that these bad things shouldn't happen to anyone and her daddy was actually not a good daddy but he was a bad daddy. Even though he bought her loads of nice things and he told her so many times that he loved her. All her friends thought he was a great daddy and wanted him as their own.
As soon as she told someone her daddy was taken away and he was sent to prison. Her mummy was really unhappy that she hadn't told her and she sometimes thought that she really shouldn't have told as her dad was right her mummy wasn't happy. What she didn't know for years and years was that her mummy was unhappy that she hadn't told her sooner and her mummy infact felt like she had let her down.
if those adverts get the charities more money brilliant. If they prevent one child being ignorant about what is happening to them brilliant. If it educates people (not matter what age) about what is happening to people all over the world and in their streets and neighbourhoods then fantastic.
if it makes you feel guilty-tough. We can all do more and give more.
Splendid
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if those adverts get the charities more money brilliant. If they prevent one child being ignorant about what is happening to them brilliant. If it educates people (not matter what age) about what is happening to people all over the world and in their streets and neighbourhoods then fantastic.
if it makes you feel guilty-tough. We can all do more and give more.
Splendid
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[if it makes you feel guilty-tough. We can all do more and give more.
Splendid
Well said Splendid, sadly life is cruel for some folk and we shouldn't sweep it under the carpet or see it just as others' problems.
Why not go one step further than giving a few pounds to a rattling tin and organise your own event to raise money for charity. It is amazingly worthwhile to plan, run an event and raise money for much needed charities. It's easy to drum up £600 with 10 phone calls in less than one week.
Many of the major charities gets grants and government funding but small often specialised charitites don't. They rely on selfess people to take it upon themselves, get off their backsides and help those less fortunate than ourselves.
I get so cross with people that don't consider others. Sadly it is all too common in this often self-obsessed world.
And before anyone says they don't have enough money to give a few spare pounds, then choose option B - organise something yourself or volunteer, your time, enthusiasm and effort is just as valuable to charities as your money.
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The issue of fat smokers is also relevant, you want a child to cope with yet another loss in their lives as a parent or parents dies young cause of health problems. They will have enough issues around loss as it is without giving them anymore.
i disagree id rather know that a child has had a couple of happy years within a family home rather than them staying in foster homes etc just because they discriminate about size and health and smoking etc
many parents are smokers and overweight does this make them bad parents?? would it make them love the child any less ?? things happen and theres nothing stopping an average weight non smoker getting knocked over by a bus any more than there is of an overwight smoker dieing of their ailments
It's not impossible to adopt if you smoke or are overweight, but it will be more dfficult and will certainly not be a factor in your favour and you would be heavily encouraged to do something about it and it will have been highlighted in the assessment.
I never said they would be bad parents or love the child any less, i'm sure they wouldn't, that was a pretty big intuitive leap for you to take. But if it came to the choice of choosing between two sets of parents, more or less equally balanced, it wouldn't come down on the side of smokers or overweight applicants.
Yes, things do happen, but being run over by the proverbial bus is less likely than a premature death due to lifestyle choices, or the health of the child being affected by such choices.
And don't knock foster homes, for some children that is the best therapeutic option they have.
IMHO, of course
J x
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It's not impossible to adopt if you smoke or are overweight, but it will be more dfficult and will certainly not be a factor in your favour and you would be heavily encouraged to do something about it and it will have been highlighted in the assessment.
I never said they would be bad parents or love the child any less, i'm sure they wouldn't, that was a pretty big intuitive leap for you to take. But if it came to the choice of choosing between two sets of parents, more or less equally balanced, it wouldn't come down on the side of smokers or overweight applicants.
Yes, things do happen, but being run over by the proverbial bus is less likely than a premature death due to lifestyle choices, or the health of the child being affected by such choices.
And don't knock foster homes, for some children that is the best therapeutic option they have.
IMHO, of course
J x
i wasnt deliberately picking up on your post just the way things are in general and not knocking foster homes i just think the whole system of discrimated against people for certain things is wrong if they can offer the love and affection these children need
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i wasnt deliberately picking up on your post just the way things are in general and not knocking foster homes i just think the whole system of discrimated against people for certain things is wrong if they can offer the love and affection these children need
that's ok, just a subject close to my heart. I hear what you're saying but there are genuine reasons behind these guidelines & decisions.
There are so many factors taken into account when assessing and approving potential parents, the 2 highlighted are just 2 of many.
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Having read through this thread i can see the pro's and cons from each side where some say its a good thing to let people know the truth and others feel its to hard hitting, personally my opinion is these adds should be at least shown later at night, the other day my 6 year old daughter was watching the tv and that advert came on for the NSPCC, in the middle of the day, on a childs channel on cable, the one where the little girls playing with her teddy on the way home and she keeps saying click, after the advert my daughter asked why did she keep saying click?, so i said she was just playing a game with her teddy so again she asked but why did she keep saying click? and why was she crying??, what are you supposed to say to a 6 year old child?? ok so i agree these things need to come to light in order to help children but do they really need to show such adverts in childrens cannels? personally i dont want my child watching such things i dont feel shes ready to know about stuff like that, my child my choice, but how am i supposed to protect her when they showing it on prime time TV? and if they trying to protect children why do they feel the need to show things like that on a kids channel so children who are looked after and loved in a way children are supposed to be have to know about it too?? other children cant help so why target them with the adverts?
.how can u dream of censoring such advertising?
For the reasons i've stated aboveOn this I can only agree. But the purpose of the channel is to provide an ordinance for it's advertisers. Still it should not be allowed.
